New (NCI) project GoofyxGrid

[Dirk Broer]

Another new NCI project: GoofyxGrid@Home (http://goofyxgridathome.net/)

WUs are named 'monkeys'... (http://goofyxgridathome.net/apps.php)

I created a team account (http://goofyxgridathome.net/team_display.php?teamid=164) to try it...
https://www.earlymoments.com/upload/EarlyMoments/Disney/Goofy.png

[Nflight]

Dirk what is the URL for the ability to add the project? :sad5:

[Dirk Broer]

The same as when you click the name in the previous message: http://goofyxgridathome.net/

[Nflight]

Thanks Dirk I am in

[AMDave]

Me too! ... in your rear-view mirror :P

[Nflight]

You weren't behind me for too long AMDave !! now I am in your dust old friend, thanks!

[Dirk Broer]

Ask for a Raspberry Pi app and he who buys lots of Pies will soon be accelerating once more....
An Android app is on it's way for sure, running on all that breathes Android!

BTW: Part of this thread should be transferred to a new one: New Project: GoofyxGrid@Home...

[AMDave]

I'll see your Pies and raise you to the power of containers.
Stand back. I don't know how this is going to go!

[Dirk Broer]

GoofyxGrid now has a 2nd app (V2) so you can have two NCI instances of GoofyxGrid running at the same time!

[AMDave]

... multiplied by the number of containers (http://goofyxgridathome.net/top_users.php) :)

[Dirk Broer]

That's quite a pace you're setting, AMDave:5eek:
http://stats.free-dc.org/charts/teamdaily1.php?proj=goo&team=164
89 boxen, no doubt some of them virtual -but it works, score-wise.

[AMDave]

Interestingly containers are virtualised environments but not virtual machines as there is no hardware abstraction layer involved: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/LXC

Scale-UP definitely works.
I launched the LXCs on 1 box at the moment and it still has heaps of head-space.
I could add lots lots more but I got tired of adding them last night and went to sleep.

If I get bored later I will try scale-OUT - cascade the LXCs across all my boxes. =-O

[Dirk Broer]

I could add lots lots more but I got tired of adding them last night and went to sleep.

You should script it -and share the code with us. We all want 80-odd environments on one box, don't we?

[AMDave]

Use Docker (http://www.tekhead.org/blog/2014/09/docker-part-1-introduction-and-howto-install-docker-on-ubuntu-14-04-lts/) - this link also tells you to install apparmor which for some unknown reason the official docs don't and it fails

Working with containers (https://docs.docker.com/v1.8/articles/basics/) - the official docs are then fine for learning to work with the LXCs that you created or pulled

Point and click with Kitematic (https://docs.docker.com/v1.8/kitematic/userguide/) - if you prefer the GUI way

Thousands of predefined containers already exist including BOINC.
I am using the "laurentmalvert/docker-boinc" container for this excercise.
The only bit I need to script is the add-project part: get the new container IP, RPC connect & add project with participant name and password.
I was doing that manually last night. I'd script that before scale-out.
Maybe later. The super car qualifying is on at Phillip Island.

[Dirk Broer]

Thanks AMDave! With this information everyone should be able to do the same on a Linux box based upon Ubuntu 14.04 LTS.
Captaincy of the GoofyxGrid team has been transferred to vaughan, who has joined the team now too.

[vaughan]

Thanks Dirk, yes I joined last night.

Will this run on my fleet of Odroids? Currently they run Asteroids nicely.

[Dirk Broer]

Not yet on your Odroids, but they're working on it: preparing linux32 and android (pie, non-pie, intel) version.

[Dirk Broer]

... multiplied by the number of containers (http://goofyxgridathome.net/top_users.php) :)

I hope for AMDave that the containers are not seen as virtual machines:

Please don't create special virtual machines for my project <- in my opinion is not fair in relation to other. For now i had sent 3 warnigs message to user to abandon that way of crunching.
I don't want to have situation like was with FreeHal project. 2 days ago I had to ban and delete 3 user account with more than 150 VM's.
Today I sent next warnings to 3 users. (http://goofyxgridathome.net/forum_thread.php?id=20)

IMHO the question should be whether the results are valid. How they are computed (physical or virtual) should not be of consequence.

[AMDave]

I just saw that yesterday and switched the containers off.
No harm intended.

[Dirk Broer]

If I read it correctly, there should not be an issue when I would create a number of x containers (where x is <150) and run 40-odd projects in them, or is that wishful thinking?

[AMDave]

wishful thinking. :)

[Nflight]

I hope for AMDave that the containers are not seen as virtual machines:

Please don't create special virtual machines for my project <- in my opinion is not fair in relation to other. For now i had sent 3 warnigs message to user to abandon that way of crunching.
I don't want to have situation like was with FreeHal project. 2 days ago I had to ban and delete 3 user account with more than 150 VM's.
Today I sent next warnings to 3 users. (http://goofyxgridathome.net/forum_thread.php?id=20)
IMHO the question should be whether the results are valid. How they are computed (physical or virtual) should not be of consequence.

NeoGen needs to read this post - Or he may get banished

[Dirk Broer]

NeoGen seems to have gotten hold of 119-cores AMD Phenom™ II X6 1100T running Linux ... inside his two 6-core AMD Phenom™ II X6 1100T running Windows

[NeoGen]

Dirk, Nflight, thank you guys for the warning. Nflight, I got your message through BOINC, just now deleted all my docker containers.

I got to admit I was having fun discovering the power of containers, but I guess I can understand. I'm very much a fan of Virtual Machines (VMWare particularly) but there's no way I would ever have the capacity to spawn this many instances this quick in only one machine, and barely using resources.

Oh well... it was a good run, now I only have the physical machines on it. :(

By the way... that forum thread on Goofyx you linked doesn't seem to work. I was going to read through and see what's going on but said "Unable to Handle Request." And below in small fonts "Bad Thread ID"

[Nflight]

I am glad all the effort found you alive and still with us. Let's hope he doesn't ban you anyways. The man put a mention on the message boards and also through the BOINC notices a while back too.
Gee it is nice to know you can reach people through BOINC. I thought that might be the only way to grab you off the wall, before you were pulled off and broke into pieces just like Humpty Dumpty! :blob3:

[NeoGen]

I disagree with the policy of no "VM-like" systems but oh well, it's the rules. Maybe someday it will change and we will be able to make monster credits on it.

I've been in the middle of constant change and upgrading all my machines, but I've always made sure to have them running on something. Right now all my machines are open with guts exposed as I'm doing upgrades here and there as I can.

I've been reading a lot about AMD on the news, more specifically the upcoming 14nm (code named) Polaris GPUs, as well as the (code named) Zen line of processors both coming out this year. If all the rumors are true these are going to be game changers. And I can't wait for them to come out. :)

[Dirk Broer]

Hi Neogen,

And did you find out about the new AM1 SOC? The Athlon 5370 makes sure that platform isn't dead yet.
Not a game changer, but better than Bay Trail or Braswell -the competing platforms from the blue camp.

[NeoGen]

I didn't see that but I saw that recently the first ARM processor series from AMD was launched recently, the Opteron A1100 (http://www.extremetech.com/extreme/221282-amds-first-arm-based-processor-the-opteron-a1100-is-finally-here). If it wasn't so complicated to get a hold of one I'd like to try it, never played with an ARM processor. :)

EDIT - phones don't count as playing with ARM processor :icon_razz:

[Dirk Broer]

You can try your hand with the new Raspberry Pi 3 or the Odroid C2, both quad-core ARM Cortex-A53:

FeatureRasPi 3Odroid C2
SOC
Broadcom BCM2837
Amlogic S905
Speed
1200MHz
2000MHz
Dhrystone DMIPS]
2760 (theoretically)
2441 (Hackaday (http://hackaday.com/2016/03/01/pi-3-benchmarks-the-marketing-hype-is-true/))
4600 (theoretically)
2624 (Hardkernel)
Double-Precision Whetstone MIPS]
711.3
1005.2
GPU
VideoCore IV
@300/400 MHz
Mali-450MP
@700 MHz
RAM
1GB LPDDR2
2GB DDR3
LAN
10/100 Ethernet
Gigabit Ethernet
WiFi
802.11 b/g/n
(2.4GHz)
requires USB dongle
Bluetooth
Bluetooth 4.1 LE
requires USB dongle
eMMC
No
Yes

[Nflight]

Warning this project is no longer nci, it uses a full CPU for processing now. FYI. I have discontinued the project till this is announced or fixed back to nci... Argh

[NeoGen]

I just checked on my BOINC and it says project is temporarily down for maintenance, so they are probably working on it. (hopefully)

[NeoGen]

Got two new workunits, they seem to be NCI again. Seems the problem was quickly fixed. :icon_thumright:

[Dirk Broer]

Still no v4 WUs

[Nflight]

I am still getting non-nci work units, flaky shenanigans with this project. Either one way or the other but not both damn it!

[Nflight]

GoofyxGrid is doing it again, The Nci effort is back to full cpu needs, please fix this folks !

Seems there is a more serious reason: http://goofyxgridathome.net/forum_thread.php?id=200&postid=1625

[Dirk Broer]

All my quads run 4 normal WUs and 4 'Goofys', the latter without 'nci' in their name. Even my BeagleBone Black runs 1 normal WU and 4 'Goofys'.

[Nflight]

I could use some help here, I am the new Founder of nci.goofyxgridathome.net TEAM, My image skills are lacking. Been dabbling in small molecule sized biology for too long. My skillset to write XML, or xtml is far away from my mindset. Any help in structuring a simple link with quality picture and link for the new Team would be appreciated? http://nci.goofyxgridathome.net/team_display.php?teamid=7 <= New Team !!

I followed this post link but it gets me now where fast: http://nci.goofyxgridathome.net/html.php

[NeoGen]

Is that a sort of spin off project? I'm not understanding. :icon_neutral:

Anyway, the HTML code for the standard banner image we have on our other projects is this:

<a href="http://www.amdusers.com"><img src="http://amdusers.com/logoimages/amdu.gif"></a>

Is it what you need?

[Dirk Broer]

Is that a sort of spin off project?

More like a goof-up project:icon_mrgreen:

[Nflight]

That was the problem I was having difficulty in expressing to get the banner up and the code right ! :)

[Dirk Broer]

That was the problem I was having difficulty in expressing to get the banner up and the code right ! :)

I meant goofing-up by the Goofyx admin, half-making two new projects in order to sort out his temporary problems.
The 'new projects' (nci- and cpu-) have no applications and as you noticed the rest of the IT-infrastucture leaves to be desired too.