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Superzerocool
04-07-2006, 03:06 AM
Hi...

I have a little question. I will update my computer form AMD Duron 1600 Mhz to another. But I have the typical question. What do you think, Sempron or 64?. I need perfomance for my work and the games (oh, yeah :lol: :lol: :lol:)

I will contribute with my cpu to any proyects. ;) ;) ;) ;) ;) ;)

Thanks for your responses ;)

NVM
04-07-2006, 03:51 AM
Sempron or 64? that can be both, can't it?

Jeff
04-07-2006, 03:59 AM
No, the Sempron is similiar to the Intel Celeron. In order to get 64bit technology, he would have to bump up to AMD Athlon 64.

EDIT: Since June 05, Sempron does come in 64 bit.


AMD Athlon 64 will be miles ahead of the Sempron. That is the way to go if you can afford it. Sempron is simply a budget processor.

Jeff

Superzerocool
04-07-2006, 04:07 AM
No, the Sempron is similiar to the Intel Celeron. In order to get 64bit technology, he would have to bump up to AMD Athlon 64.

AMD Athlon 64 will be miles ahead of the Sempron. That is the way to go if you can afford it. Sempron is simply a budget processor.

Jeff
Then, you recomend the 64 cpu?. But what are the benefits of use it?. There aren't OS 64 bits. Win 64 and Linux 64 don't support well the new cores.

And the last question, why "Sempron is simply a budget processor"?

PcManiac
04-07-2006, 04:21 AM
No, the Sempron is similiar to the Intel Celeron. In order to get 64bit technology, he would have to bump up to AMD Athlon 64.

AMD Athlon 64 will be miles ahead of the Sempron. That is the way to go if you can afford it. Sempron is simply a budget processor.

Jeff
Then, you recomend the 64 cpu?. But what are the benefits of use it?. There aren't OS 64 bits. Win 64 and Linux 64 don't support well the new cores.

And the last question, why "Sempron is simply a budget processor"?

I am running Windows XP x64 bit version, and it is pretty good. there are only a couple programs that don't work with it, as well as drivers.

if you are on a lower budget, you can still get the A64 3000+ for pretty cheap! and it is pretty quick.

Jeff
04-07-2006, 04:21 AM
Actually, I was wrong. You can get a sempron 64 bit. The sempron is built for the budget market. It's the successor of the Duron and is supposed to compete with the Celeron. The Athlon has a larger cache for one thing. Keep in mind when comparing Athlon and Sempron. The processor numbers can only be used to compare CPUs in the same product line, i.e. you can only compare Sempron to Sempron and Athlon 64 to Athlon 64. 64-bit OS are not widely available -- yet. I believe there are some Linux distributions that are 64-bit capable and Microsoft is developing a 64-bit OS as well.

In summary, the Athlon 64 is just faster. Sempron is a budget processor for web browsing, word processing and the occasionaly low intensity game. The Athlon 64 is good for all of that, but high-end processing, including new games. You mentioned in your first post that your system would be playing games, so I would have to recommend the Athlon 64.

Nflight
04-07-2006, 05:02 AM
I second that motion, Gaming needs processing power.

PcManiac
04-07-2006, 06:14 AM
and it is stuff like you can get a 1mb L2 cache on an Athlon 64, and most sempies have 128k
or a 2000mhz bus compared to 1600mhz...

I dunno, be cool, get athlon...sorry that didn't rhyme :P

Empty_5oul
04-07-2006, 09:53 AM
as the XP range was phased out the sempron took its place. Now it is available as a 64bit processor.

Semprons are similar processors i think the only difference being the cache size and bus speed. the sempron also only comes in socket 754 whereas the athlon 64 range comes as either 754 or 939.

I think it comes down to how much you have to spend. The 64 would be the better option overall (for future expansion going 939 would be best).

Nflight
04-07-2006, 01:30 PM
Pin 939 is best, if in the future you decide to enhance your capabilities the lower end opterons like the 165 use the 939 chipset. Besides the price of 939 chipsets have come way down in ones year time.

Lagu
04-07-2006, 04:00 PM
Hi Superzeracool

My computer is an AMD Athlon™ 64 processor 3200+ (Codename=Newcastle) 2.25 GHz 1 GB ram (Physical Address Extension) 754 pins.

I have a program from AMD called AMD CPUInfo as I have run on the computer and it shows following:

Current Speed 2.282 MHz
Fam. Model Stepping: 15.12.0
64-bit support: Yes
3DNow™ support: Yes
3DNow™ Extensions support: Yes
MMX™ support: Yes
MMX ™ Tensions support: Yes
SSE Support: Yes
SSE2 Support: Yes
L1 Data Cache Size: 64 KBytes
L1 Instruction Cache Size: 64 KBytes
L2 Cache Size: 512 KBytes
Dimm EEC Enable No
Memory Bus Speed: 166 MHz
HT0 Frequency: 1000 MHz (Hypertransport)
HT0 Width In: 16 Bits
HT0 Width Out: 16 Bits
HT1 Frequency: 200 MHz
HT1 Width In: 8 Bits
HT1 Width Out: 8 Bits
HT2 Frequency: 200 MHz
HT2 Width In: 8 Bits
HT2 Width Out: 8 Bits

Motherboard: ABIT KV8pro (Via K8T800P-8237)
Graphic card: ATI Radeon 9600 PRO Gecube/AGP8X

This is my main computer and I have never been playing only run different projects and browse through Internet. Sometimes I have 3 Internet Explorer open, Word and Whatpulse, and uFluid or QMC@Home or Leiden Classical or HascClash running on Boinc at the some time and never had a hang up or other issue. This computer runs and runs day and night seven days a week. It runs a WU in D2OL in about 20 minutes. Their workunits contain 20 steps in a WU. Last I had a average of 11 minutes/work unit.

This computer is as powerful it can be. I think you not will regret if you buy an AMD Athlon. I bought a new monitor, Hyndai L70N and MS Office Basic at the same time. All in all it costs 2003.14 US $ollar year 2004.

Lagu ;)