Predictor@Home race started!

[NeoGen]

I rounded up the base values for everyone. Start dumping those workunits. :)


Race Stats Links:
Pharmers League (http://neogen.amdusers.com/contest2006/race3p.htm)
Regulars League (http://neogen.amdusers.com/contest2006/race3r.htm)

[Nflight]

Dumping, ! I feel like a little kid with all this excitement in the air! :laughing8:

[gamer007]

Whoa? Feels early to start. :? I thought it was Mondays @ 4pm PST for me.

Ah well... DUMP! :cool:

EDIT: Oh crap.. maybe that's why I had a little disadvantage.. I thought it started a day later. :mad:

[vaughan]

Mondays at 9:00 am here.

Its goin' to take some time to switch the pharm off Sztaki and on to Predictor but the process has started :!:

[Strongbow]

I've dumped all mine (not many) and I seem to have finally aquired a load of WU's to run on each system - why didn't I get all these before the race started? :roll:

Oh well...

Now can anyone tell me why this is happening; does Predictor have different job applications which take a different amount of time to complete and is it based on processor type?...

* My Dual Core 2.8 Intel is taking 1.18 to complete a WU :roll:

* My 2way Opteron is under 40mins to complete a WU :cool:

* My Mac is taking over 3 hours to complete a WU :shock:

* My old boy Intel P4 2GHz is taking 2.40 to complete a WU :?

* My other old boy Intel PentM 1.6 is taking 1.01 to complete a WU :)

All of them have the latest BOINC and the x86/x64 systems all have Crunch3r's client. The DC Intel shouldn't take that long surely and it certainly should be quicker than a PentM 1.6??? ...and the Mac G5 might have to retire from the race unless it gets it's finger out and starts crunching!

Strange how the benchmarks do not reflect the time taken to complete!

Any ideas? ...I know if they were all AMD I probably wouldn't have this problem but I am using all these disparate systems for a comparison and yet Predictor has thrown me completely off target when compared with other projects!

[drezha]

Yes they do have different applications...
http://predictor.scripps.edu/apps.php

All are avaliable for all the OS's you mention.
BUT

I cant say whether they favour a chip make or not. Coudln't really help there because I only have AMD chips on it...and they all have mbfold

[Strongbow]

They're all crunching "mfoldB125 4.28"

EDIT:

Just found out that my Mac is running "mfoldB125 4.29"

[Lagu]

Hi

My AMD Athlon 2300+ crunch both mfold8125 4.28 bprion 10 and 11 between 42.50 to 44.01 minutes.
My AMD Athlon 1001 crunch 4.28 bprion 10 and 11 between 2.17.11 to 2.18.53 hours.

Predictor is a little harder to crunch than SZTAKI.

Lagu :)

[Strongbow]

Hi Lagu,

Your benchmarks reflect the difference in compute time required, mine however look like this (in order of completion time)...

* <=41mins - Opteron248
Measured floating point speed 3748.04 million ops/sec
Measured integer speed 12229.73 million ops/sec

* 1.01mins - Intel PentM 1.6
Measured floating point speed 2205.72 million ops/sec
Measured integer speed 8466.15 million ops/sec

* 1.22mins - Intel Dual Core 2.8
Measured floating point speed 3109.09 million ops/sec
Measured integer speed 9982.19 million ops/sec

* 2.40mins - Intel P4 2GHz
Measured floating point speed 1724.88 million ops/sec
Measured integer speed 6668.02 million ops/sec

* 3.02mins - iMac G5
Measured floating point speed 965.23 million ops/sec
Measured integer speed 2986.3 million ops/sec

It's very strange :cry: :?

I must admit though if Predictor really does favour the PentiumM then I have 3 more 1.6's I could power up (wish it was 3 more Opty's mind you).

[Nflight]

Patience is something I just seem to not have much of lately. Especially when it comes to seeing results for work done, and a lot of work done, but no results are showing, What gives?
I dumped a full two days of work Units and the result is exactly what Mitros machine did for me and nothing of my own. Maybe I am giving someone elses machine points and not mine!

Signed Frustrated

[NeoGen]

Stats are up! Record number of competitors! :)

Pharmers League (http://neogen.amdusers.com/contest2006/race3p.htm)
Regulars League (http://neogen.amdusers.com/contest2006/race3r.htm)

Amazingly mitro is 2nd ranked and not too far from 1st! Even without the duallies he borrowed. He must have something more he's not telling us. :P

[dAVE]

Ye gods. Mitros still got three opterons even after he has loaned two out. Is Mrs Mitro giving birth to them!

Blackheath, Looking at my results I have not yet found a WU also crunched by anything but an AMD machine. Do they have different WUs for intel or is it that the different processors crunch differently and they can't validate each others results? dAVE

[mitro]

Amazingly mitro is 2nd ranked and not too far from 1st! Even without the duallies he borrowed. He must have something more he's not telling us. :P

Thats just a 2-day dump of WU's. And I only have 2 dual cores in this race. :P

Tomorrow my production will be a fraction of today.

[gamer007]

Woot. I'm 3rd. I'll have a hard time getting past that with my 1700+ 1.4GHz. :lol:

I'm close to losing my 3rd place to this Jeff Morton.

[Strongbow]

I'm worried about Vaughan! ...He's in stealth mode and so will probably drop an almighty load anytime soon!

He surely won't let a "Pommy Basxxxd" beat him again! :lol: ;)

[vaughan]

Ah there's the rub. :D

I've still got quite a cache of Sztaki work to crunch yet ... but I'm getting there :!:

An observation: Predictor runs slowly on a P4 compared to an Athlon XP.
Almost 2 hours per task on a P4 Prescott 3.2 compared to about 58 minutes on an Athlon XP2800+ both Win XP Pro SP2 and 1 GB DDR400 RAM. Sztaki and Leiden Classical were / are much closer in times per CPU.

If it wasn't for this BOINC Championship I'd switch the P4s back to something they like eg. SOB.

[Strongbow]

An observation: Predictor runs slowly on a P4 compared to an Athlon XP.

Is Predictor more memory intensive then?

[Evil-Dragon]

I haven't really noticed, however my workunits:

46 min - AMD X2 4200+
50 min - AMD 64 3200+

Dunno what the shitty Intel machine at work takes but i bet it's over 60 mins.

[mitro]

An observation: Predictor runs slowly on a P4 compared to an Athlon XP.

Is Predictor more memory intensive then? No... it just depends on the architecture of the processor... A64's, XP's, Pentium-M's are good and P4's, not so good. Macs are alien to me :P

[NeoGen]

We're ranked 25th now, with the next team not too far away. :)

[gamer007]

My WUs take forever compared to all of yours. Around 1:15h or so on my 1.4GHz Athlon XP 1700+.

[NeoGen]

Stats updated. :)

A handfull of people showed up today on the contest stats as only today they got credits. You can see them in the yellow lines.
Lagu, what happened? That was a mighty fall you had there today.

[dAVE]

Looks like I shall get mugged by Vaughan tonight :-( What a race at the top though! Dave.

[Strongbow]

Even though Mitro has loaned Nflight and myself a couple of his crunchers he could still easily win! :shock:

...but even more worrying is Vaughan ...he calmly keeps saying that he is finishing off the SZTAKI jobs from last week before he properly commits to Predictor! :-k

So nobody is safe and it already looks like it'll be another close race to the finish line again!

[Lagu]

Stats updated. :)

A handfull of people showed up today on the contest stats as only today they got credits. You can see them in the yellow lines.
Lagu, what happened? That was a mighty fall you had there today.

Hi NeoGen

Yeah, I have had 2 stops on both computers. Om my old AMD Boinc Manager had got a hang up and I discovered it first after unknown amount of hours. I had to restart my computer to get Boinc running again and the log vas removed so I couldn’t see how long the stop had been. When I should log on my Bank I had to pause Boinc and forgot to start it again. I guess I lose 3 hours before I discovered it.
Yesterday when I should upload my WU I had sure 150 different files as had been paused due to a communication fault from the server I believe. I have checked the log and got this:

Crunched Uploaded Time.......Number
06-05-22..06-05-23 00.06.52.....1
06-05-22..06-05-23 23.57.42.....6
06-05-22..06-05-23 23.57.21.....3
06-05-22..06-05-23 23.57.05.....3
06-05-22..06-05-23 07.52.26.....4
.................................Summa:17

06.05.23..06-05.24 00.06.15.....26

As you can se I start upload of yesterdays work next day 23.57. Because of the slow upload process my work shows up the wrong day if I understand it right. Work done 23 finished 00.06. I had at least 150 different files as took long time to upload.

When Predictor update the stats it will be right. yesterday I had 155 WU´s. Now 233 a difference of 78. I can reminds wrong but it can be right too.

I´dont know if there will be more points day 3. Todays uploads will be 43-44

Lagu :)

[dAVE]

Hang in here Lagu, you can still give steve a race. Dave.

[dAVE]

Yes, I got well and truely mugged, well done Vaughan. Are we seeing your true form or are you still running SZTAKI, GROAN!. Dave.

[NeoGen]

More than a race, he jumped up to the Pharmers table again. Great going Lagu! :)

And Vaughan is on a stomping spree, better watch out Nflight. :P

Also, as usual, there's alot of commotion on the regular's table, but Evil-Dragon is making serious progress up. :)

[vaughan]

Vaughan is on a stomping spree, better watch out Nflight. :)

:buzzsaw:

[Lagu]

BlackAdder

Is your computers down? Day 1 and 2 is empty.

Lagu :?

[Nflight]

We just took 24th place in Predictor, Nice going everyone!

Competition is for seeing just how power your words match you computing power, I thoroughly enjoy knowing that Vaughan has the power behind him when he says he has a small Pharm, I believe him.

Don't worry I am not slowing down nor giving up! But while the systems are stable there is no need to crank them anymore, expecially right in the middle of a competition.

Motivation is Everything ! is my personal motto.

[vaughan]

That's right Nflight and 23rd is not too far off. Let's see if we can catch BOINC Aussies before we switch to the next leg of the Spring Championship.

Feel@home with AMD :!:

[Nflight]

Let's see if we can catch BOINC Aussies before we switch to the next leg of the Spring Championship. :!:

Under my calculations it will take Three and One half days to catch and pass the Aussies as you call them Home! Excuse me your on our team I remember now. Just joshing with ya Vaughan. :lol:

[Strongbow]

I found out the issue with my Intel Dual Core 2.8 being slow!

Apart from having an Intel inside my Wife has been recording several Post Man Pat and the Teletubbies on it! I thought I had shut all that Media stuff down! ...maybe she does know more than I thought! :oops:

So I've been losing valuable crunching time due to 'Tinky Winky' and a 'black and white cat'!!! :roll: :lol:

So if you see anything that looks like this on your PC, delete it! ...it's EVIL!!!
http://www.worldofbubble.com/images/teletubbies_tinky_winky.jpg :lol:

[Nflight]

Vaughan I am staying on Precitor till we pass Team Australia, I downoaded a bunch of WU's beofre I found out the next race was switched to SIMAP.
I am with you till we pass the AUssie Team.

I think making it past them would be the pinnacle fo the race, and I am encouraging Blackheath and Mitro to do the same, at least until the SIMAP race starts. Thank You gentlemen...

[vaughan]

OK. That sounds like a plan I can work with. :)

[Strongbow]

You can count on me Nflight! :cool:

[Steve Lux]

The things I'll have to do for the team...

My son, who I built the computer with, lives at my Ex's house. I'll have to go there to figure out why the 4800+ isn't crunching for Predictor. It's a dirty job, but it needs doing.

[mitro]

I'll leave the two computers I'm loaning out on Predictor until Sunday afternoon as well as my main computer (the Opty 165), but my work computer I need to switch it to SIMAP Friday afternoon or I won't be able to switch it until Tuesday (holiday weekend and all).

[NeoGen]

At current rate we'll be 24th by Saturday. :)

One more day guys... this is the final stretch for Predictor. Mitro, can you hold Vaughan back or will you also be roadkill? :P

[Nflight]

At current rate we'll be 24th by Saturday. :)

One more day guys... this is the final stretch for Predictor. Mitro, can you hold Vaughan back or will you also be roadkill? :P

Actually I want to correct NeoGen we already are at 24th Position, By Saturday we will be at 23rd Place.

It is not often you get to correct NeoGen, Just thought I would make that statement, even though he will remember to look first next time, before he puts it on the forum. Just fooling with you, take this with a grain of laughter.

P.S. NeoGen I noticed your not in any of the contests, did you do that intentionally?

EDIT : Check out the bar graphs at the bottom of the page, http://www.boincstats.com/stats/team_graph.php?pr=pah&id=479

[gamer007]

I like my stats. :lol:

I skyrocketed everything. And went up gained over 2k places (rockslide down according to BOINCstats). :cool:

[mitro]

At current rate we'll be 24th by Saturday. :)

One more day guys... this is the final stretch for Predictor. Mitro, can you hold Vaughan back or will you also be roadkill? :P

Not a chance, especially since I realized a little whle ago that I had shut down the BOINC service for testing one computer and forgot to start it back up, so it was idle for about 12 hrs... GRRRRRR

[vaughan]

Maybe there is a chance. I'm having difficulties getting any work from Predictor. There was work but its for other platforms, or words to that effect.

[NeoGen]

Actually I want to correct NeoGen we already are at 24th Position, By Saturday we will be at 23rd Place.
Oops... that's right. :oops: Climbing several ranks in a short time has that effect. :)

And yep, I skipped this week's race. Lots of people on it already so I thought I would help on other places. But I was there on Leiden and Sztaki. And in the top 10 of the regulars league. :)

[Nflight]

I was looking at the scores everyone has in the Pharmers League, The position of First, is pretty much a done deal, unless Mitro has something Up his sleave, BlackHeath wins!

In Third place is Vaugnan who is only slightly ahead of me by 430 points, that means if he quivers in anyway he may lose to me by a smidgen.

In the sixth, seventh, and eighth positons the score is so close all three positions are seperated by only 462 points. Anyone of AMD-USR_JL, Beerknurd, or Maybach can come out on top.

Mitro and Sou'westerly (aka grandpa dAVE) are basically sealed positions, unless either one has a trick up there sleaves.

Way to go everyone, quite an impressive supply of Giga Hertz and work units.

[dAVE]

That was close between vaughan and mitro, right to the wire with Nflight ready to step in if either of you missed a step. Well done Blackheath.
Lagu, how did you time it so well, a couple of pendings validated and you would have been up a league. Well done.

[NeoGen]

Congrats to Blackheat and Lagu! Winners of the Predictor race at each league. :)

Blackheat, I think mitro won't borrow you his dually anymore, you crushed him with it. :lol:

Lagu, that was some aiming. You were very close to be the last of the pharmers league but instead you were the first on the regulars league... again! 3 times champion! :)

[Strongbow]

Many thanks Mitro for the loan of that awesome workstation, it made 'mince meat' out of my other systems! :shock:

I'm back to normal now :cry: and have just moved my systems (less the Mac) to SIMAP! I won't have crunched many WUs prior to the race start so it'll be raw power this time and I'll have no chance of beating you on that front!

[Lagu]

That was close between vaughan and mitro, right to the wire with Nflight ready to step in if either of you missed a step. Well done Blackheath.
Lagu, how did you time it so well, a couple of pendings validated and you would have been up a league. Well done.

dAVe, thank you. I always began to upload 23.59 o´clock local time GMT.
Of scource my WU´s went over to 00.04 for example and I think the server registred that time when done. But it need babysitting to upload work every day.

Lagu :D

[Nflight]

That's right Nflight and 23rd is not too far off. Let's see if we can catch BOINC Aussies before we switch to the next leg of the Spring Championship.

Feel@home with AMD :!:

I think we will have 23rd place by 24 hours from this date and time. Say bye bye Team BOINC Australia.

[Steve Lux]

If a few of us stay the course in Predictor, as I plan to, we should catch the Austrian team (22nd place) before that German team catches up with us.

[Nflight]

We got 23rd place!