Which to buy?

[Ohioemachines]

Yeah,I'am disabled and not able to build my own PC's like most.So,I'am stuck with buying a OEM & upgrading to my needs and likes.
Can you all help me out here?Of these PC's;which is the better choice?I'am upgrade the video card and PSU also.I do some gaming.
I'll be ordering what ever pc that I decide to get next wed.

http://www.pcconnection.com/ProductDetail?Sku=6763033

http://www.pcconnection.com/ProductDetail?Sku=6777232


http://www.tigerdirect.com/applications/SearchTools/item-details.asp?EdpNo=2205257&CatId=0

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.asp?Item=N82E16883102669

Which will make the best buy as far as upgrading and getting my moneys worth?

Thanks in advance

[Nflight]

Nice to meet you Nflight, let me start off by saying there are many ways to feed your thirst for new equipment. Let me point out that there are many people here who will give you advice, because we each see opportunity to help you.

First off your probably looking at one system right now, at least or your using someone elses machine to access the web. I have two systems and I am working on my third. I only have one monitor and one keyboard & mouse. I use something called a KVM Switch which allows me to switch between systems with out having two or three of everything. ( KVM stands for Keyboard Video Mouse). I can theoretically add as many as I want as long as I gang them together. But I have the availability to hook four up.

You want to look at being progressive by looking to purchase pin configurations that will allow you to improve your system over the course of years to come. This would be to ask the place for a AM2 pin configuration, the reason I am saying this every system you have picked is for a 939 pin and you should be looking for the 1241 pin setup. These motherboards are no more expensive then normal 939's except the 939 is going to be phased out in the next year or so. After that you will need to upgrade and pull more money out of your pocket.

I also have been around the block with dealing with online sellers, they mean well but they really are looking out for their pocket before they are looking out for you. My suggestion is to find a phone and make some phone calls, ask around the yellow pages and even the white pages. Find someone who owns a computer shop who can relate to your needs and you can explain your into DC ing. If he doesn't understand teach him something by directing him to our website. Explain your enthusiasm to compete with your skills in the computer, and that you need to feel wanted (which you are a very improtant part of us, every Team member has a beneficial status that can't be explained). This computer local shop to you may even make house calls due to your situation. I know if I press hard enough I can get anyone to come to my door for service.

So all you need now is the mainframe or server box and nothing else if you go with a KVM Switch, and the price of the system will come down considerably.

Which to buy? So many options, we will all help you find what you can afford and feel great about it. :!:

[Ohioemachines]

I've got 2 computers right now.And hate sempron's.And I like these computer's.I've only got about 1year left to live.So,future technology isn't my concern at all.Please,which of these PC's?And it's nice to meet you too Nflight. :cool:

[gatekeeper53]

Very well said Nflight

[Nflight]

Actually the 3700 series computer would be your better bet. I had a 3500 series and loved it for what it was. All these machines are single core. emachines do not have the same respect as Tiger direct or New Egg.

Tiger direct or New Egg, either one of these businesses are respectable, but remember this only my opinion. Tomorrow there will be more people on here and they too will have there concerns. Sleep on it one more night, it will be very well worth your time.

I am sorry to here of your tragic end is near, that makes me feel really sad. :cry:

[Ohioemachines]

lol...........Who said anything about eMachines?That PC that I want to buy is a Acer Aspire E360 and both Tigerdirect & newegg sell it.Tigerdirect recommended to me over their systemax computer.

[Nflight]

You had a compusa link to an emachine.
http://www.compusa.com/products/product_info.asp?pfp=BROWSE&N=200005+401159+4294966755+4294964748+14&Ne=500000&product_code=339757&Pn=T6534_Minitower

Since you edited it out, you understand. :!:

[Nflight]

When desire hits you, buy it! Don't let me hold you back...

[Brucifer]

I've had very good dealings with NewEgg, a good company.

[drezha]

lAcer Aspire E360

I was warned off Acer systems by people and when I bought my Acer laptop the other day I found why.

The dam mouse touch pad didn't work so the machine got sent back...
Currently looking at a MESH laptop instead.

Just a warning about Acer ;)
I was also told they enjoy destroying themselves a VERY soon after warrenty..

[Strongbow]

Hi Nflight,

I've just had a look at your selection and going by their descriptions alone and with no other choice, then I would go for the Aspire one.

http://www.pcconnection.com/ProductDetail?Sku=6763033

...and then get yourself a PCI Express graphics card for your games as the onboard one will sap all your resources and isn't very powerful.

Hope this helps,

BH

[Ohioemachines]

Thanks blackheath,you have any PSU suggestions?Something around 450-500wtts
My psu budget is $140.00

[Strongbow]

It does say, and I quote...

" Acer

All the power you need."

:lol: :lol: :lol:

I doubt that mind you! :? :D

In all honesty Nflight without knowing what PSU is in there it would be a bit churlish to order an additional PSU. If you are going to upgrade the graphics card only then you may find it has sufficient power it is always best to phone the supplier to find out - if it has the standard OEM <=320W PSU then you're probably right to order something with a bit more juice to be on the safe side.

However you could order an FSP Booster X3 which slots into a drive bay and supplies a dedicated 300W to the graphics cards, cheap and easy setup. http://www.overclock3d.net/reviews.php?type=3&id=79&page=1&desc=fsp_booster_x3_300w_12v_psu

Else, if you really feel you need a new PSU then aim for >=500W so I would go for something like this http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.asp?Item=N82E16817153028

[Ohioemachines]

It does say, and I quote...

" Acer

All the power you need."

:lol: :lol: :lol:

I doubt that mind you! :? :D

In all honesty Nflight without knowing what PSU is in there it would be a bit churlish to order an additional PSU. If you are going to upgrade the graphics card only then you may find it has sufficient power it is always best to phone the supplier to find out - if it has the standard OEM <=320W PSU then you're probably right to order something with a bit more juice to be on the safe side.

However you could order an FSP Booster X3 which slots into a drive bay and supplies a dedicated 300W to the graphics cards, cheap and easy setup. http://www.overclock3d.net/reviews.php?type=3&id=79&page=1&desc=fsp_booster_x3_300w_12v_psu

Else, if you really feel you need a new PSU then aim for >=500W so I would go for something like this http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.asp?Item=N82E16817153028
It has a 300-watt FSP Group PSU inside it.I'am going to add a PCI-E x 16 card and another Harddrive.A 250GB Western Digital Cavair 16MB SATA 3.0gb/s

[Ohioemachines]

Yeah,that booster just maybe the solution.Being my psu is by FSP.Where can I buy one?

[Strongbow]

Here you go...

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.asp?Item=N82E16817104019

[Ohioemachines]

Okay,now my PSU is a 300-Watt FSP.Now,I'll only be installing 1 vid card.Most likely a 7600GT or a 7900GS.So,do you still feel this is what I should get?

[Strongbow]

If you're going for either card (esp. 7900GS) and a 2nd drive then 300W probably won't be enough! ...the booster X3 may be a bit of an overkill though (it's really aimed for dual GPUs).

In the end it'll come down to cost - is it cheaper to go for the booster X3 or replace the PSU with a 500W+?

[Ohioemachines]

The booster X3 is only $89.00 thats nothing for power.But,to give me back up choices.What are a few good 500-watt PSU's that you like?Oh,my PSU budget is $155.00

[Strongbow]

I'd still say this one is good value http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.asp?Item=N82E16817153028

The booster at that price is good though and it probably wouldn't invalidate the warranty either as you're not messing with the OEMs PSU.

[Ohioemachines]

I'd still say this one is good value http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.asp?Item=N82E16817153028

The booster at that price is good though and it probably wouldn't invalidate the warranty either as you're not messing with the OEMs PSU.
That Thermaltake has no PCI-E connections tho
Find me a good psu with the connections.LOL.........I don't care about a OEM warranty.I've only got about 1year left to live my doctore say.**** a warranty.I'am the one needing warranties lol.....lol,.,. :)

[Strongbow]

Ouch! :shock:

Why faff around with a little system, get yourself a mother of a crunching system and crunch for the medical science project that may be able to help you and others like you? Something like this http://www.sun.com/servers/x64/x4600/


In the mean time, and a bit more wallet friendly, you could just get this cheap but effective one...
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.asp?Item=N82E16817190011

[Ohioemachines]

LOL.............Okay partner.

[Nflight]

I have a 680 watt PSU in my one system, here is the going price!
http://www.outletpc.com/c0843.html
I have a 820 watt in my over powered S.O.B.
http://www.serversupply.com/products/part_search/query.asp?q=3CB9EP8

Any questions :?:

[Strongbow]

I have a 680 watt PSU in my one system, here is the going price!
http://www.outletpc.com/c0843.html
I have a 820 watt in my over powered S.O.B.
http://www.serversupply.com/products/part_search/query.asp?q=3CB9EP8

Any questions :?:

:shock:

Yeah I have!!! ...do you find that the street lights go off down your road, your Wife takes twice as long with her hair dryer and you get strange clouds forming above your house when you power them both on at the same time? :lol: ;)

[Nflight]

Alright so I am slightly off center here, but really it is just the power on cycle that causes me to not be capable of acheiving full on so quickly. I hope you understand that just because I have that much does not mean my systems draw that much all the time. I have toned down the fan usage by disconnecting all that I can to conserve energy.

So that is why there are storm clouds out side my house every time I reboot the monsters, Thanks for the insight :shock:

"Excess is never too much of anything, there has to be a sucessive demand for something to express Excessiveness."
Famous Quote by Monty Python

Edit - my spelling sux

[Ohioemachines]

Guy's did alot of researching lately.I've been learning from you all.And here's the PC that I'am buying.I'am ordering it late this evening.I love it and went to shop to demo it.Man,it's the shit.

http://www.walmart.com/catalog/product.do?product_id=5223464

[Strongbow]

That's a lot of computer for the price. Good choice!

[Ohioemachines]

That's a lot of computer for the price. Good choice!
Thanks I know you'd be proud of me.You've taught me to search well. :D
Now I'am order 1GBof ram and a vid card.I'am use that FSP X3 Booster for my video card.It should be fine for a single 7900GS or 7900GT.You think?Damn,I can't wait to get my hand on it.I'am ordering at 6pm.Got to wait until my money is posted into the bank.

Any other suggestion's?Guess ,what I found it at walmart while looking for a USB cable.LOL..............There really is a computer god too!! :lol:

[Strongbow]

Here's the extra memory you need from Walmart...

http://www.walmart.com/catalog/product.do?product_id=3884645

Edit: Walmart states just 1GB DIMM whilst HP states 2x512MB DIMMS which would fill both slots therefore you would need to order 2x1GB - best check first

The FSP X3 could easily power two of either of those cards so you'll have no problem! :D

A computer God - now there's a thought! ...let's hope he isn't running Windows and needs a reboot every few weeks! :roll: :wink:

[Strongbow]

Oops! be careful with the memory ordering! ...going by Walmart it has a 1GB DIMM but going by HP it comes with 2x512MB DIMMS.

If HP are right then you would have to remove both 512MBs and replace them with 2 x 1GB DIMMS.

Best check first!

[Ohioemachines]

Okay,by the way.You must have read my mind.What brand ram should I get?All this ram in my eMachines is DDR 400MHz PC3200 184-pin
Tell me some good brands. Especially that be good with a dual-core system now.
Just been looking.And every site that I've went to says (512MB x 2)installed.

[Strongbow]

For the HP system (you're about to order) then the Patriot memory I linked to in an earlier thread should be fine as you're not going to be able to overclock it anyway due to HP locking the BIOS settings down.

However, if you're after some super fast clockable memory then look no further than these different manufacturers : GeIL, Corsair or OCZ - although you'll find that 2GB of the highest performing memory will probably cost more than the HP system you're about to order.

[Ohioemachines]

2GB DDR 400MHz PC3200 Patriot Signature line is real good thats what I've got right now.Ordered it from newegg back in Jan.Got the 2gb(2 x 1GB)kit .Was only $143.00 (shipped and all)plus I got it 1 day early. :D

[Strongbow]

Hold on Nflight!

The HP system will require "PC2-4200 DDR2 533MHz 240-PIN DIMM memory" so you will have to order some more if you want to up the RAM in it. Best to order the system first and check inside to see if it has 2x512MB (most probably) or just 1x1GB and then make your order for the required number of Patriot 1 GB PC2-4200 DDR2 533MHz 240-PIN DIMM memory.

[Ohioemachines]

Hold on Nflight!

The HP system will require "PC2-4200 DDR2 533MHz 240-PIN DIMM memory" so you will have to order some more if you want to up the RAM in it. Best to order the system first and check inside to see if it has 2x512MB (most probably) or just 1x1GB and then make your order for the required number of Patriot 1 GB PC2-4200 DDR2 533MHz 240-PIN DIMM memory.

LOL..........I swair.The goofy ass sales clerk didn't add the sales tax.And the HP is over my budget.Came to a total of $623.40 (shipping & taxes)
I've only got $602.00 on my bank card and thats a shame! :x
Wellm,I guess it back to the T6534 or go to www.saveateagle.com (http://www.saveateagle.com) He's got some refurbisbed factory recertified HP's.

I'am so hurt now man.I just wanna die now.lol.........

[Ohioemachines]

Got to go down to tthis one now.LOL....It's no slouch tho.
But,iy's not dual-core either.

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.asp?Item=N82E16883107031&ATT=83-107-031&CMP=OTC-PriceRunner

[Ohioemachines]

:D Just brought this one.Whao.........from www.jr.com $50.00 mail-in-rebate even.

http://www.jr.com/JRProductPage.process?Product=4090756