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gatekeeper53
10-24-2006, 03:38 AM
Does anyone know how long you can run a 3500+ w/stock cooling at 2.845?

Beerknurd
10-24-2006, 05:12 AM
Until it starts smoking... You should probably quit when it starts doing that...:icon_lol:

gatekeeper53
10-24-2006, 05:16 AM
http://issofty17.is.noda.tus.ac.jp/results.php?hostid=6760

Check it out and no smoke yet!! lol Soon..... Can you tell when I ramped it up? lol

gatekeeper53
10-24-2006, 05:17 AM
I ended up talking mama into some dual cores so I need some sockets to put them in. You should see what I did to a 3200+ lol

Beerknurd
10-24-2006, 05:47 AM
Damnit!!! I want some new toys!!!!!!!!

Keith75
10-24-2006, 07:54 AM
I was going to get an E6600 system but now I decided I need to get one of the GeForce 8800 cards instead so I can play Crysis in all it's glory. :D

Keith

gatekeeper53
10-25-2006, 06:27 AM
Hey Beer no smoke yet so I ramped up the other one.

Lagu
10-25-2006, 09:03 PM
I have over clocked my AMD 2300+ a further step.
The External clock is now at 218 MHz. Normal is should be 204.
The Speed is 2,398 MHz and standard is 2,204 MHz.

I tried 220 and 2,406 but it went not well. The computer shouted down and Windows began to dump the memory. Every time I tried Turbo settings or as now the computer didn’t accept it. The temperature was not over 65 Celsius yet. Now the CPU is only 44 C warm. It is very good and fan speed is between 1,380 and 1,440 rpm/min. Max is 1.600.

Benchmark result so far is:

4,089 Floating points MIPS
13,254 Integer MIPS

The computer runs very stable so far. No shutdown.

I wish I could over clock my Old Athlon. Its motherboard is made for 1,100 GHz but it has no UGuru tool as make it easy to over clock. No problem with the heat on this computer. I’m not used play with the bios. If I try perhaps I make a mistake and the motherboard and other stuff can be damaged.

gatekeeper53
10-25-2006, 09:33 PM
I had my dual core up to 263 and 12X or 3.15 GHz and the heat went through the roof so I calmed it back down to 2.65GHz and its doing fine at 58C. This stock cooling but it is the first stock cooler I have seen with heat pipes, I have a Big Thyphoon II on order. I ordered another 4800+ and today instead of getting it I got a backorder notice. I think I'll just go with the 5200+ and move up to an AM2 Motherboard. There's only $100 differance. Anyone have any recommendations on a MoBo?

Beerknurd
10-25-2006, 09:43 PM
Dangit, I wanted a 5200+...

Lagu
10-25-2006, 10:01 PM
I have ABIT KV8 Pro (K8T800) as supports 2,000 MHz Hyper Transport and have uGuru tool. This tool is easy to use when over clock the CPU. I have yet not have any problems with it. Of source there are a lot of them out there. Don´t know if ABIT has motherboards for dual cores. Peoples seems to like MSI but there is also GeForce and Asus.

Lagu
10-25-2006, 10:24 PM
From: http://forum.abit-usa.com/index.php


1) DFI LP UT NF4 SLI-DR Expert, Opti 175, 1Gb TwinX 3200, BFG 7800GT-O/C, 80Gb WD, NEC DVD/RW,
550W Aspire 2.0, XP Pro SP2/ Vista RC1
2) KN8, Opti 165, 1Gb TwinX 3200, 6200PCI, CDRW, XP Pro SP2
3) ECS C51GM-M, X2 3800 (AM2), 512 TwinX2 PC5200, onboard GeForce 6100, CDRW, XP Pro SP2
4) KN8, Opti 165, 1Gb TwinX 3200, 6200PCIE, CDRW,XP Pro SP2.
5) NF95, X2 3800+, 1Gb TwinX 3200, onboard GeForce 6100, CDRW/DVD, Antec 400W SmartPower 2.0, XP Pro SP2.

Keith75
10-25-2006, 11:23 PM
Lagu,

I would bet that it is your memory causing the problem unless you know otherwise. ;)

Keith

Strongbow
10-26-2006, 07:20 AM
...I think I'll just go with the 5200+ and move up to an AM2 Motherboard. There's only $100 differance. Anyone have any recommendations on a MoBo?

If I were you I'd take a look at the two ASUS ones...

The ASUS Crosshair for Nvidia or the ASUS M2R32-MVP Crossfire for ATI.

Both are great boards with loads of options to tweak for overclockers.

gatekeeper53
10-26-2006, 07:39 AM
Thanks Blackheath but no sooner than I posted that I got ab email that the 4800 has shipped. I guess it's good as I already have the board and mem for this build and I would have had to rma all that stuff. Ever use any Epox boards?

Strongbow
10-26-2006, 07:44 AM
I've never used any Epox boards, would be interested in hearing how you get on with one though as I've just read up on a few and it sounds like they are great for O/C'ing

gatekeeper53
10-26-2006, 07:51 AM
This 4800 I have is sitting on one and it is fun! It's the EP-9U1697. I just got one yesterday for the 4800 that's comming. This is the link: http://www.newegg.com/product/product.asp?item=N82E16813123003 I think it's the board in the book OCing for morons. lol It does make it that easy and the software is great that comes with it. I like the Thunder Probe it matches CPUZ exactally as far as the numbers go and it also gives temps. And you can reset the bios from the keyboard.

Lagu
10-27-2006, 07:03 PM
Keith

I think you are quite right. When Windows had dumped the memory and the computer had restarted I manually shouted it down. During the shout down process I got a message saying: “The memory couldn’t be read” and after that the computer shouted down.

I have Wiking memory but the datashop where I bought them has got bancrupty. I think it is liftime warranty on them.

Is there samthing wrong with my MoBo or is it bios or the memory?

Brucifer
10-29-2006, 03:27 PM
I have Wiking memory but the datashop where I bought them has got bancrupty. I think it is liftime warranty on them.

Is there samthing wrong with my MoBo or is it bios or the memory?

It's most likely that the issue is the memory Lagu. You don't have any memory that you can swap it around just to isolate the problem for sure between memory or the motherboard?

Lagu
10-29-2006, 06:47 PM
It's most likely that the issue is the memory Lagu. You don't have any memory that you can swap it around just to isolate the problem for sure between memory or the motherboard?

No Brucifer, all my memorys is in their resp. computers. Can it has somthing with voltage to do?

Brucifer
10-29-2006, 07:35 PM
Usually if it is a voltage problem the computer won't run. However it is possible it could be. I was just saying that in the normal odds of things, the first thing would be memory going out, specially if it has been runing for a long time. I get that problem and it usually shows up as seg fault errors on linux systems, where the system was running flawlessly for a long time.

About the only way you can tell is to swap parts and see what happens.

Lagu
10-29-2006, 07:51 PM
I´ve run CPU-Z and when I checked memory slot I notised following:

Clot 1 512 MB
Frequency 200 MHz
CAS#Latency 2,5
RAC#to CAS 3
RAC#Precharge 3
Tras 8

Slot 2 512 MB
Frequency 133 MHz 166 MHz 200 MHz
CAS#Latency 2,0 2,5 2,0
RAC#to CAS 3, 3, 4
RAC#Precharge 8, 3, 4
Tras 6, 7, 8

Slot 1 has a freqency of 200
Slot 2 has 3 different frequency of 133, 166 and 200 MHz
CAC and RAC is different to Clot 1.

Is that right? If I have 2 memorys installed should they not be similar on both RAC and CAC.

Memory timings

Frequency: 171,3 MHz
FSB: DRAM
CAS#Latency 2,5
RAC#to CAS Delay 3 Clocks
RAC#Precharge 3 Clocks
Cycle Time (Tras) 7
Bank Cycle Time (Trc) 10 Clocks
Command rate 1T
Dram Idle Time 10 Clocks

Chould it be better have one memory at 1024 MB instead for 2 at 512 MN?

Is there any wrong?

Brucifer
10-30-2006, 12:32 AM
When you put more than one stick of memory in a system, they should both be the same in order to keep weird things from happening. You could put in one stick of a larger amount. However.......... some systems need two sticks to maintain the highest memory speed. Doesn't sound like yours was set up for that though.

As for the speed, both sticks of memory should be the same.

gatekeeper53
10-30-2006, 12:44 AM
A matched set is my first choice, be it 2x512's at the same speed or 2x1024, after that would be a 1 gig stick, and last would be a mismatched set. But even a mismatched set equal to 1 gig is better than 512. If they are mismatached then both will run at the speed of the lower speed stick.

gatekeeper53
10-31-2006, 03:06 AM
I love to read when there are results. I found an article on 3700+'s and got mine up to 3.0GHz. No smoke yet Beer. lol

IP address
Domain nameStandby-PC
Local Standard TimeUTC -6 hours
NameStandby-PC
Created13 Oct 2006 0:43:39 UTC
Total Credit 15,284.70
Recent average credit 705.37
CPU typeAuthenticAMD
AMD Athlon(tm) 64 Processor 3700+
Number of CPUs 1
Operating SystemMicrosoft Windows Longhorn
Professional Edition, (06.00.5600.00)
Memory 1021.88 MB
Cache 976.56 KB
Swap space 2300.2 MB
Total disk space 74.52 GB
Free Disk Space 57.83 GB
Measured floating point speed 4684.54 million ops/sec
Measured integer speed 15146.5 million ops/sec
Average upload rate 27.01 KB/sec
Average download rate Unknown
Average turnaround time 0.02 days

Beerknurd
10-31-2006, 03:14 AM
Aww man.... No pretty fireworks from the PC???

gatekeeper53
10-31-2006, 03:15 AM
Nope not yet. lol Sure eats wu's though. I pushed one of the 35's past 3.0GHz.

Beerknurd
10-31-2006, 03:20 AM
good grief... Next you will be breaking out the liquid nitrogen... Now that may be worth me taking a trip to a corn field 35 miles east of St. Louis :lol:

gatekeeper53
10-31-2006, 03:22 AM
I am working on a way to bring in outside air this winter with my compresser out in the shed. I would bring it in and have a regulated flow onto the dimm and the cpu. lol

Beerknurd
10-31-2006, 03:25 AM
Yea, I was thinking about getting cold air FedExed from the North Pole. :lol:

gatekeeper53
10-31-2006, 03:26 AM
I just have to solve the moisture problem. And where is our chat room? lol

gatekeeper53
10-31-2006, 03:32 AM
In about 5 min that ramped up 3500 should finish it's first wu.

Beerknurd
10-31-2006, 03:32 AM
Don't they make moisture filters???

gatekeeper53
10-31-2006, 03:35 AM
Yea I have one on there but I'm not sure how many it would take for me to feel safe shooting the air into a puter. It will be comming in at below 32f and I'm worried about condensation.

gatekeeper53
10-31-2006, 03:38 AM
2,283.67------ 26.06 --------- 26.06
Not bad for a 3500