A64 on the way...

[Keith75]

I decided to go ahead and upgrade my XP3200 to an A643200. Not sure if that is really worth it but we will see. I figure it has some overclocking potential too. :D

Keith

[jlangner]

Same here - I just recieved my A64 - 3500! But waiting on a socket 939 board (NFORCE 3- 250) to become available!

[Keith75]

That is the very reason I got the 754 setup. They are just getting some decent boards out for it and I figure it will be August before the 939 has boards out from Asus which is my personal favorite. :D

[jlangner]

Let us know how it runs some of the DC projects!

[Keith75]

I will. I am hoping it shines in F@H since it has SSE2. :shock:

[Keith75]

The good and the bad. I have my new A64 3200 with an MSI nForce 3 250 board up and running. The good news is that it is very snappy in doing about everything and runs my favorite game, Planetside, noticeabley better. The down side is that even with SSE2 F@H, when it gives you the benchmark number at startup, is rating this one at 7280 while my XP was getting 7380. I am anxious to see how it runs on D2OL and others. I am running it at stock speed which on this board seems to bee slightly high at 2211 MHz. One other problem that seems to be common with the Newcastle, 512K cache, version is that MBM tells me the CPU temp is about 60 deg. when it is really only 35-40. I guess Abit had the same problem and fixed it with a BIOS update so I hope MSI is soon to follow. I was worried as usual a little bit about changing motherboard brands, but after an ASUS that I loved I will have to say this MSI is top notch and I am glad I tried them.

Keith

[Keith75]

In 3dMark03 I went from a score of 5970 to a score of 6176 :D

[em99010pepe]

I don't understand why you upgraded your XP3200 to an A643200. What's the increase of speed, 15%?

[nickth]

Oh well all this talk of new computers. Has made me go out and buy another computer. A XP2600+ on an Asrock k7 mobo to join the XP2400+ on an Asrock k7 mobo which i have had for a while. :D :D :D

[Beerknurd]

I'm glad everyone else can go out and buy a new computer.... I wish I could. My wife would kill me.... :shock: :rightfighter5:

[em99010pepe]

My wife would kill me.... :shock: :rightfighter5:

As american you can buy a gun. Just joking.

[Keith75]

Well, I bought it for two reasons. First I wanted it for Planetside and future games that seem to love them. The other reason I bought it was I wanted to use my old board to upgrade an XP1800 at work which I will get paid for so my upgrade only cost me $300 which didn't seem to bad considering how much I save not going out and running around while I am playing games. LOL

Keith

[Keith75]

Oh, and another thing, my old was was a 2500 OC'd to 3200 while this one is a 3200 so I can OC it a ways farther to a 3400 or more. This one has the 512K L2 cache and runs at 2.2 GHz but they say most people are getting at least 2.3 GHz with the stock HSF.

[BC]

I take it you have one of the ....... 4AX processors (NewCastle) core?
(Clawhammer = 4AP I'm sure you all know)... it won't clock much past 2.3 without a LOT of work due to leakage.

I'm sure you all know, but just to resttate and catch up since I'm new..... AMD finally put the NewCastle quietly in one of its documents as of last week. Expect some nice things from this last block if K8s (939 pin packs). Hang on to your hats as the initial K9s come out at lower clock speeds than they are truely designed for. Later this year Q4-04 Q1-05, don't be surprised at some REALLY big stuff

Personally, I'm getting ready to cash in on some good cheap 8-ways (Opts & Semps) shortly and reduce my machine count even though I love my A64 (and electric bill.. HAHA)

What we need now are the Operating systems to keep up. What do you all think of WinXP-64 for AMD? Anyone play with it?

[[ I just learned of this site and your group when joining Predictor (DC) 2 days ago. ]]

I would like to come up to speed as well as help out where I can. Please feel free to email me.

** EDIT **
I was reading back... the 754 pin A64 3200+ (4AP) at 220 FSB w/ CL2 Corsair (2-2-2-5) on Asus Single Channel does great with no mods. Check the Predictor DC project site and you will see what I did in 48 hours with 1 machine. Please keep in mind there are 25+ work units uploaded but not credited because it's down for maintenance. I will have another 20 or so by noon.

You all know about the 939 pin stuff... that's the NewCastle and family. It will have a 'relatively' short life if the new Fab is up and leakage can be kept down at 65nm.

** End Edit **


BC

[em99010pepe]

Oh well all this talk of new computers. Has made me go out and buy another computer. A XP2600+ on an Asrock k7 mobo to join the XP2400+ on an Asrock k7 mobo which i have had for a while. :D :D :D

You put that one in D2OL?

Keith75,

Then tell me how much wu's a day your new baby can crunch in D2OL. OK?

[nickth]

Oh well all this talk of new computers. Has made me go out and buy another computer. A XP2600+ on an Asrock k7 mobo to join the XP2400+ on an Asrock k7 mobo which i have had for a while. :D :D :D

You put that one in D2OL?

Yes its running D2OL.
I'll have to let you know tommorrow about what can produce. as there was a lot of booting and rebooting to get it work properly has a heedless node, :D :D :D

[Bok]

em,

my A64's (and opterons) have about the same output per day as my higher end athlon XP's. Not much gain really. All running gentoo, A64's in 64 bit mode.

Bok

[em99010pepe]

Thanks guys.

Just wanted to know how fast A64's are.

(off topic)
nickth, I think Czech Republic will win the Euro2004.

[jlangner]

Keep us updated. I think it was a good upgrade. And when the 3700 comes down you can eventually upgrade to it. I hope to have my board on monday for my 3500. I am getting the MSI NEO as well (939 though). I heard the new bios will fix the temp issue. Have you tried the live update for bios? I thought their was one update already?

D2OL - XP2800 can do about 125 canidates a day. So beat that. hehe.

[Keith75]

Yeah, I have the Newcastle core. I haven't gotten a full days work out of it yet on D2OL but in the last 12 hours it has done 98 WUs. Welcome BC.

[jlangner]

Well you are on pace for 200 w.u. per day that is real good. BTW have you installed the latest http://www.amd.com/us-en/Processors/TechnicalResources/0,,30_182_871_9706,00.htmlA64 driver from amd.

[Keith75]

That link gives me a page 404. The driver I have for the chip is dated 4/25/04. It says it is version 1.1.0.0.

[jlangner]

Latest is - AMD Athlon™ 64 Processor Driver for Windows XP, Version (exe) 1.1.0.14. Go to www.amd.com, then support and downloads and find that way. It is dated May 2004.

[Keith75]

Well, that is what mine is I downloaded that so I have the newest. But under Device Manager it just says 1.1.0.0. Even though it is dated coreectly.

[Keith75]

My A64 machine just clicked over 200 D2OL WU. It is about 5pm here. The D2OL stats day here starts at 11pm but I turned it off and played a game for about 4 hours early this morning. So it mayb be doing better than I was originally thinking.

[nickth]

Right my

XP2400+ will do 108 per day

and my

XP2600+ will do 116 per day
:D :D

[Keith75]

I never really pay much attention to the individual machines output per day.

[Anonymous]

Regarding D2OL...

First, I want to thank you guys for the eye-opener... I like the sounds of the project and am going to give it a try.

Secondly..

What do you consider when talking about how much a machine
can do per day on that project?

I got the software, set it for 100 datasets (?) , but it gave me 87....
(have to figure that out... some network problems on my end at that
instant about 3/4 of the way through....)

Anyway... Within the first 20 minutes I had the following:

Registered: 6/26/04 5:47 PM
Age: 0 days
Total Docking Time: 21 min, 30 sec
System-wide Contribution: 0.00001%
Total Conformers Evaluated: 188,000,000
Best Candidate Found: IBS_STOCK1S-69956.pdbq
Candidates Conformers
Processed: 4 Processed: 80
Avg Dock Time: 5 min, 22 sec Avg Dock Time: 16.125 sec
Avg Per Day: n/a Avg Per Day: n/a
Past Week: 4 Past Week: 80
Today: 4 Today: 80

May I ask someone email / message me or let me know what this means? and how is that for the one machine (it has FW, Antivirus, and all the usual 'junk'... 54 processes to be exact running). I do have another machine that I can bring up and join this.... Question is: Where is our time best spent? I'm not sure about predictor or this... May I ask opinions? (direct me to the correct forum please if this is incorrect).

If my machine needs tweaking... I will do it. I have plenty of room to tweak with the hardware in that box... (except it isn't dual-channel memory bus)

Please note: I'm at work right now and can't have it update, but these
results reflect what it did while getting ready for work....
Obviously I will know more in a few hours as it will have had time to
go through more of what's in the buffer.


Thanks for your patience, understanding and help in advance.
These groups / forums are all new to me. I've been in a 'different world' for a long time.

Thanks,
C

[BC]

sorry for the previous post w/o signature...

I forgot to log in before posting.


Thanks,
BC

[Keith75]

Well, we usually talk about the smaller number, candidates not conformers, when we talk about the daily number of WUs. I haven't tried Pedicator but D2OL I think is pretty reputable and worth while. They are also pretty reliable. Go to google and type in "DSPY" then the top link should take you where you can download it. This is a hand program for monitoring it. Also remember you want to right click on D2OL in the menu and click hide agent so that it runs faster.

Keith

[BC]

Keith,
Thanks VERY much for that info.

When I left home, I had told it to stop the animation and had
minimized it. I hope that's close to what actually 'hiding' does.

I will definately remember to 'hide' it when I get home.

If I do the math (assuming it's a linear process).. then the machine
should do 271 per day....

(1,440 minutes per day / 5.3 minutes per candidate)

It will be interesting to see how linear it is and what it really does.

Thanks again.

[jlangner]

The que size is not really that important if you have a constant internet connection. Otherwise keep it high enough for a couple days production. Every 6 hours it will refill the que when it transmits current results.

[BC]

My internet connection is building-shared. We have 6 T1 lines of bandwidth. When I download (through Norton FW, McAfee V-scan, and my local switch... all at 100 FDX) I get about 6.3 Megabits/sec.

The only issue is if my DHCP expires, I have to sign back into the router because we have WiFi support as well and don't want that floating all over the place.

I think, as a test, I'll combine your suggestions and set myself for a day's worth of work, knowing it will refill / top-off the buffer every 6 hours if I don't lose my login to the router while at work or overnight, but have enough to continue should the DHCP expire. That should cover me either way.. true? Are there any error conditions / loss-of-connection conditions I have to cover in the software?

I'll be leaving here (work) in just about another hour. Given this coincides with the auto-update at 0400 UTC (9pm PST).... you should all be able to find me and see what got done under the team stats...

Any comments, suggestions are welcome.

Thanks,
BC.

[Keith75]

Sorry if you already said this but what type of machine do you have this running on? Some units will take just a few minutes others may take 20 or 30 minutes. So it is hard to say how many you can do unless you have a fairly big reference sample to go by. Are these work computers or home computers?

Keith

[em99010pepe]

BC,

You are in the stats, BCCL.

[BC]

Keith & all,
Although in the first 24 hours of operation for both processors... I am noticing a trend. Please tell me if this is true. Is it true that D2OL uses the first 4 results as 'controlled tasks' to determine what your machine can do, and then adjusts the known complexity of the subsequent tasks based on the (essentially) benchmark?

As for seeing my results... The validated results are already posted in our team.... BCCL (instead of BC). 108032 and 108039. One is a Clawhammer (10:1 mult) w/ 2-2-2-5 Corsair XMS-LL at 220 FSB. The other is the NewCastle (11:1 mult) w/ 3-3-3-6 Kingston at 210 FSB. Both motherboards are the same (Asus K8V SE Deluxe) and same BIOS rev and ghosted copies of XP. Only difference... The newcastle runs through the Claw so it does not run a firewall or antivirus... it let's the Claw do that.

I am going to get a regular VPN switch here (to keep in Ca) next and eliminate all this software Firewall crap.... it is too CPU expensive. My DSL modem in Pa has a better firewall in hardware than Norton. I want my CPU cycles back!!!! LOL

Anyway, please comment and let me know what you think of the validated results so far... as of right now.. it's been 11 hours since initial signup for host 1 and 3 hours since signup of host 2.


BC.

[BC]

These are my personal home computers.

I can email you a pic of the rigs if you want...

overall... it looks like this..

ASUS K8V SE Deluxe 2.0 MB.
Both processors are Athlon64 3200+ (one is Claw, other is NewCastle )
1.5G Corsair 2-2-2-5 (XMS512-3200LL) mem
ALL Pci slots are full in #1
Radeon 9800 XT graphics in #1, Radeon 9000 Pro in #2
Dual Sony 19" flat screens (HX-93's) for each.
Creative Audigy Platinum w/ remotes & desktop unit.
Creative 6700 (7.1 w/ spdif) speakers (6 + woofer), 150 watts.
830GB of local HD on #1 and 120G on #2.
TDK CD and DVD burners #1, a single CD/DVD burner (TDK) on #2.

extras are: MS wireless mouse & KB (black one), and shared HP-6110 printer.

(guess it's obvious which one USED to be my main machine... LOL)

BC

[Keith75]

http://app.d2ol.com/memberServices/memberLogin.jsp

One thing you need to do if you haven't is go to the link above and then after signing in click on the ADD NODE button at the bottom and add any nodes that it lists. As for the idea of it sending you tasks based on the first few it sends you, I have no idea about that. I haven't heard anything about it doing that but it may. Nice setups you have. :)

Keith

[BC]

Keith,
You should see nodes 108032 and 108039 listed. They show up for me.

BC.

[BC]

Keith,
First, Thanks on the configs... I wanted them both easily transportable,
just in case.

Now, since both are stable using essentially 'stock' configs, but do have T-take coolers (Opteron class w/ AS-5).... what's the next step?

How far do I overclock them or should they be left alone?

BC.

[em99010pepe]

BC,

:shock: :shock: :shock: :shock: :shock: :shock: :shock:

I'm in shock. You have nice and great setups.

[BC]

Well,
I'm single, live modestly within my means, and this is what I do with my 'mad money'. I also build machines for friends to kill my idle time when i'm not busy going somewhere or doing something.

It's obvious I'm a geek at heart.... true ROFL!!!

Here's the funny part... This ALL started as the result of 2 things...
1) my ham radio licence at age 12.
2) seeing an HP-35 calculator (now a dinosaur) and being obsessed
with how it works.

BC

[em99010pepe]

Keith75,

Take a look at this page:

AMD64 Device Driver Support for Windows® and Linux (http://www.amd.com/us-en/Processors/DevelopWithAMD/0,,30_2252_875_10454,00.html).

[Keith75]

Thanks for the link em.

BC,

I have overclocked alot of machines and have had mostly good but a few bad experiences, 1800 and a 2200 that would overclock worth a damn. I would suggest you overclock it one processor speed. So your 3000 would be a 3200 or your 3200 a 3400 and be happy that you saved the money not buying that faster chip. Now on the other hand if you are just doing it to have fun then I am kinda new to the A64 and what voltages it can safely take. Visit the link below though as it may give you some useful info.

Keith

http://forums.pcper.com/showthread.php?t=299229

[BC]

Keith,
Thanks. It's been my experience, and moreso now with the smaller fab process .13 and upcoming .065 that the limits will be leakage current and junction current/temp. the juctions are getting awefully small and hence wont tolerate much over design.

So far, the most I have tried is 1.55v and 2.31 Ghz (FSB 230) on both the 3200 Claw and NewCastle. The Claw was stable, but i felt i was pushing it for no good reason.

The NewCastle jumped rigt up to its cap of 2400 (2.37) without flinching. Too bad i can't unlock that... my unlocker / reclocker can't undo burned junctions to limit speed... lol. I bet the NewCastle (unlocked) will go up to 2.6 / 2.8 without much trouble.



NC

[em99010pepe]

When you talk about overclocking it seems to me like chinese talk. I don't understand nothing at all.

[BC]

pepe,
Think of overclocking as this...

Your car's engine was designed to run at a normal speed and a 'red line' speed. What we are doing is figuring out how to safely go PAST the red line without destroying the engine.

Example: Volvo engines are designed for 8000 RPM of 100% use, they are limited to 7000 by the onboard electronics to extend the life of the engine. Most people drivethem in the 3000- 5000 RPM range.

What we want to do is run that same engine at 8000 normal and be able to safely go to 10,000 RPM when we want with a limit of 12,000. Some folks want to run at 10,000 all the time. AND... we still want it to last just as long and be just as reliable.

Does that help?

BC

[Beerknurd]

When you talk about overclocking it seems to me like chinese talk. I don't understand nothing at all.

I second that. I'm using one machine running 2 nodes. I get about 220 a day if there's no hang up's. (ex. stupid yahoo dsl...) anyways, 220 a day is as fast as this thing will go. I tried running 3 nodes but experienced nothing but slow system performance. I'm sorry I don't have 10 computers running 24/7 like Chaz... :D If I had that I wouldn't have to use the heater in the winter. :cool: Someday I hope to have a home network of at least 10 pc's. But for right now I have to be content with 220 WU's, Candidates, Conformer's or whatever else they may be called. Does anyone have any tips on how to speed it up any? :help:


DSPY is an excellent tool. I highly recommend it if you don't have it. :thumbup:

[BC]

I recently discovered something with the A64's that may or may not help.... It's probably good advice overall and for you serious over-clockers, probably common knowledge.

What I did was get the best memory I could (Corsair XMS512-3200LL).
It's 2-2-2-5 and stable WELL past what the A64 3200+ can run so far.

It runs great bank interleaved and all.

I locked the Memclock/CPU clock to 1:1.... so there was no problem there,
and then simply incremented the FSB in steps of 5 (AMD prefers multiples of 10, but 5's are ok for some reason) until I lost stability at 235. I do not know if it was a lack of CPU voltage (current = 1.55, full range of manual voltage choices there up +/- .3 volts in .025 steps) or DDR voltage (current = manual 2.7, not 2.75 as recommended by Corsair'. My options are 2.6,2.7, 2.8 or auto for mem) or some other sync problem.

My Clawhammer... rated at 2.0 Ghz, is running nice and cool at 2.25. I can push it easily to 2.3 (FSB = 230)... After that, I lose the processor. Perhaps I need to increase the voltage past the auto-set 1.55 (normal is 1.5 at 2.0G). The CPU multiplier for Claw is 10:1. At 2.25G, under 100% CPU load, I have MB of 31C, Processor of 40C. Power supply is Antec 550TruePower (VERY tight regulation).

The NewCastle... Rated at 2.2G... will go all the way to 2.37 (aka 2400 Mhz) which is the AMD imposed cap. The CPU multiplier for NewCastle is 11:1. I used the same techniques and settings as defined above.
Hope that helps you....

Can anyone tell me what to do with what I have or am I at the max?


Thanks in advance,
BC

[Beerknurd]

Can anyone translate that into english???

[BC]

I have an Asus motherboard, Athlon 64 3200+. With exception of the parts I bought for it, all my performance increases were done by playing with the BIOS settings ONLY.

PM me if you like, let me know what you have and what you would like to do and I will see if / how I can help.

*EDIT* DSPY, or any other such programs take CPU power to run. But let's also talk about the 2 vs 3 node thing too. *END EDIT *


BC.

PS: Apologies for the 'geek'. :)

[Beerknurd]

For what it's worth, it (DSpy) doesn't take up that much processing power.

As far as running 2 nodes vs. 3, My systems runs perfectly normal with 2 nodes running 24/7. With 3 nodes running I get alot of lag time. I supose if I ran 3 all day it would make a diffrence as far as WU's are concerned, but it's not worth the lack of system performace when i'm sitting at it. I guess when it comes down to it, I prefer the stability of 2 nodes versus 3.


Anyone have any comments?

[em99010pepe]

BC,

I understand the objective of overclocking. I'm not stupid!?!?!?
What I don't understand is the way talk to each other, the tecnical language.
I know what is a voltage, a FSB, RPM...


If I want I can talk to you about Mechanical of Fluids, Thermodynamics, Lufrification, with tenical language and i beat you will not understand.

pepe

[BC]

I'm sorry, I did not mean to insult your intelligence. I don't know what you know. I was searching for a common frame of reference to build on.

I am sure you can talk to me about fluid dynamics and lose me and I could go further into the electronics and talk about timing cycle relationships and the importants of 4 nanoseconds of delay between two timing pulses...

I honestly was just searching for common ground based on your wording.

PLEASE accept my apology if I sounded insulting in any way...that is not what I meant.

BC

[em99010pepe]

BC,

I'm sorry too. Lets forget. I was rude in my answer.

Tecnicaly I know how to increase the engine horse power. ;)

[BC]

Pepe,

Agreed and misunderstanding resolved.

Now, back to that 2 vs 3 node thing...... (which is what we need to
solve here)... what do the 3 nodes all share? whatever that is,
it has to be the bottleneck....

If it's the Internet connection.... I have a few tools for that.

I'm sure you're all aware of DrTCP (www.dslreports.com) .

You can test your speed, tweek your TCP Receive window (MOST
IMPORTANT) and then set the other parameters.

I have a list of settings for varios OSs... just let me know if anyone
needs any.


BC

[Beerknurd]

It's weird. I can run 3 instances of Ubero and my system works fine. 3 instances of D2OL screws up my performace. I have 1 GB of Ram so I doubt that's the problem. I have it running as a low priority process but it still jacks up my performance. I have gotten the best results runnig 2 instances of D2OL.

[Beerknurd]

Yea!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

No more NEWBIE status!!!!!!!

:2gunfire: :n00b:

[jlangner]

BC - Thanks for all of the good info. I maybe looking for your help later this week. I have a A64-3500 (skt939) sitting here waiting on my motherboard to come. I have a A8V ordered and should be here on Friday.

I also have the Corsair XMS3200LL (512/256/256). I can not run in agressive on my current board (A7N8X) - want post. What setting do you keep the "2T" setting on?

[Keith75]

I am getting about 145-150 a day out of it. I am going to check my others for comparison and post all the different machines with their specs when I can get to it. :D

Keith

[BC]

Good choice... Solid products... watch for bios updates.. there are a few in germany in alpha/beta test right now....

I was hoping to surprise you guys with a few things.... with 939 and A8V :)
UNLESS...... I make network changes tonight (and my boss doesn't find out) !!! Maybe I should just ask permission???

(or is it easier to ask for forgiveness???) lol

BC

[jlangner]

hehe - I have about 8 pcs at work I am over that are at my disposal, although most are just 1.2ghx T-Birds.

[BC]

BC - Thanks for all of the good info. I maybe looking for your help later this week. I have a A64-3500 (skt939) sitting here waiting on my motherboard to come. I have a A8V ordered and should be here on Friday.

I also have the Corsair XMS3200LL (512/256/256). I can not run in agressive on my current board (A7N8X) - want post. What setting do you keep the "2T" setting on?


Your memory is Twinx XMS (256/256 for a total of 512) or do you really have 512, 256 and 256?

If you have matched pairs (Twinx), you can enable 2T... if you have 3 DIMMS, you MUST leave it as AUTO . Also if 3 DIMMS, keep the 256M in the blue slots and the 512 in the black slot (bank 0 / slot 1).

You might want to play with the memory timing a bit though... On any of the A7N8X line... Cosair runs/reports as CL 2.5 ... Given you have 2-2-2-5, you have room to play if you want to bring up Memtest86 on a floppy and play with it (doesn't corrupt your HD's if you make a mistake)... and the crash-proof bios will allow you to recover if you do harmlessly.

The Corsair site says (I think, but double check me please) 2.5-3-3-6. the numbers can be pulled down as you push the FSB if in 1:1 lock.

BC

[em99010pepe]

Yea!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

No more NEWBIE status!!!!!!!

:2gunfire: :n00b:

:wav: :wav: :wav: :wav:

[BC]

hehe - I have about 8 pcs at work I am over that are at my disposal, although most are just 1.2ghx T-Birds.

Wouldn't an "A5100+ 128 w/ 256 bit bus" using today's numbering scheme be fun to play with? How about 512bit or 1024 bit wide MP machine?

Speed is fun. Leakage current is a pain in the butt. What *are* we going to do below 65nm is going to get interesting. 50nm?? 40nm?? 32??


Sounds like time to change how we cut chips, huh?


Personally, what I want is simple.... and maybe I won't have to wait too long.. Quad channel mem, Dual Processor A5100+ 64s?




BC

[Anonymous]

Keith & all,
Although in the first 24 hours of operation for both processors... I am noticing a trend. Please tell me if this is true. Is it true that D2OL uses the first 4 results as 'controlled tasks' to determine what your machine can do, and then adjusts the known complexity of the subsequent tasks based on the (essentially) benchmark?

As for seeing my results... The validated results are already posted in our team.... BCCL (instead of BC). 108032 and 108039. One is a Clawhammer (10:1 mult) w/ 2-2-2-5 Corsair XMS-LL at 220 FSB. The other is the NewCastle (11:1 mult) w/ 3-3-3-6 Kingston at 210 FSB. Both motherboards are the same (Asus K8V SE Deluxe) and same BIOS rev and ghosted copies of XP. Only difference... The newcastle runs through the Claw so it does not run a firewall or antivirus... it let's the Claw do that.

I am going to get a regular VPN switch here (to keep in Ca) next and eliminate all this software Firewall crap.... it is too CPU expensive. My DSL modem in Pa has a better firewall in hardware than Norton. I want my CPU cycles back!!!! LOL

Anyway, please comment and let me know what you think of the validated results so far... as of right now.. it's been 11 hours since initial signup for host 1 and 3 hours since signup of host 2.


BC.

[nIghtorius]

Hi..

I have Athlon 3500+ rig running for three days now from the moment of writing.. more info see my signature.. ;)

Went from a P4 2.4Ghz to a Athlon64 3500+ skt939.. and let me say this.. I have no regrets of this purchase. This thing is extremely fast..

With my P4 is just could barely reach 5400 pts in 3Dmark03 with massive OC'ing (bringing that 2.4Ghz to 3.0 Ghz, a 600Mhz OC).

But damn.. this thing scores 5995 @ stock.. absolutely nothing OC'ed. OC'ing my card a bit brought me to 6205 pts..

and all the games runs buttersmooth now.. :D

[Ototero]

Welcome to the green world, what projects do you like to run ???

[Empty_5oul]

welcome , that is great m8 :thumbleft:.

if you want to try a project that would run really smooth and fast (i meen ULTRA FAST) on that try 17. There is an optimisation for athlon 64's , plz post the speed if you try this program

here is the link: http://linux.redbird.com/~alien88/sb200SSE2.exe
make sure you join AMD Users tho !!!
oli

[nIghtorius]

it requires 4 minutes 10 seconds to complete a block.

cEMs/sec: 989323.8 (variating a lot)

[Ototero]

That's slighly up on my ath 3000+ 64, 920,000

[Empty_5oul]

k, thats kool.
if you select config and the set the priority to normal it will go up a bit - but if you do that you wont be able to do much on the computer. you can however put it on low and get a better result whilst still having a responsive computer.

[nIghtorius]

That's slighly up on my ath 3000+ 64, 920,000

Hehe.. It seems that I made a fault.. the memory was somehow running in single channel mode? I put the memory modules in the different colors thinking blue = 1st, black=2nd channel meaning Dual Channel.

but CPU-Z reported that it was running single-channel. then I tried putting them both in the blue sockets.. guess what.. CPU-Z reported DUAL channel. (never tested my bandwidth in the first place :roll: )

Now I get: 1018000~1019000 cEMs/sec :)

but still.. system is not running optimally.. I can't reach the specifications of the memory without losing stability. even at 2CMD rate. Now I am running my mem @ 333 CL2.5 CMD1.. I think I will trade the memory for something better because it just cannot reach its advertised speeds.

edit: okay.... the cEMs/sec rate keep going up: 1024000.. when does it stop?
edit2: it found it's sweet spot @ 1032000~1033000 cEMs/sec.

[Empty_5oul]

k, so your pushing over 1 then which is great. If you select stop and exit then when you open it again select config beofre restarting it, then put priority to normal, svae changes and then select run/go. You may gain a tiny bit but thats all i can recommend to push it harder.
just looking for your stats you havent joined our team yet, or the stats havent updated in the team box at top right please put "AMDUsers" no spaces and capitals where shown. that just means we can look at your stats :thumbleft:

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where you have said about memory have you not though of going for DDR 400, surely your mobo can take it if its 939 pin 64 bit compatable ??
accoriding to below it can take 4Gig that would be kool lol - but expensive
http://www.pcstats.com/articleview.cfm?articleID=1617:

as well as up to 4GB of regular unbuffered DDR PC3200 memory

[nIghtorius]

k, so your pushing over 1 then which is great. If you select stop and exit then when you open it again select config beofre restarting it, then put priority to normal, svae changes and then select run/go. You may gain a tiny bit but thats all i can recommend to push it harder.

where you have said about memory have you not though of going for DDR 400, surely your mobo can take it if its 939 pin 64 bit compatable ??

http://www.pcstats.com/articleview.cfm?articleID=1617:

as well as up to 4GB of regular unbuffered DDR PC3200 memory

Yeah but somehow the memory can't.. It really gets unstable when I set DDR400 (2:1).. the memory just can't reach it's advertised speeds. That's why I am going to replace it.

setting priority to normal makes it go @ 1080000 cEM/s/sec

[Empty_5oul]

yeah, soz m8

i mis-read your sig : 2 times 512 - 3200

i saw the 3 and though it was 333 - thats why i said try 400 you would gain a bit more speed, don't worry though you already do.

where do you live m8, england ??
casue the site i normally use is microdirect it has a lot of memory on there,some good some not so good : http://www.microdirect.co.uk/ProductLister.aspx?GroupID=465

i just tried CPU Z on here and under memory all i get displayed is general: size 512M, everything else is blank and grayed out ? any idea ?????

[nIghtorius]

I don't seem to get it anymore.. now it seems to be running at DDR400 fine?..

somehow I had some "unexplained" application crashes. Not sure it is IEXPLORE (since it is the only one crashing here). or some memory problems.. fast check of memtest86 revealed no probs.. trying a long check with memtest86 and look whats going to happen.. :?:

weird.. memory fails @400 DDR with memtest86 3.1 @ test 5 (last 2% percent of it.)

but when I oc'ed the CPU to 2.4ghz and the memory running @440 DDR it succeeds the memtest86 3.1 test?!? :?: :?: what gives?

going to run a test with memtest86+ v1.26... look what's going to happen then..

------------- Final Edit --------------

Everything looks OK now.. prime95 doesn't generate an error anymore within 2 minutes.. memory is rocksolid @ DDR404 :).. all my problems went away just by setting the HTT speed @ 201 instead of 200.. just one 1Mhz away from total stability it seems. Never thought running Dual Channel could cause headaches...

[Empty_5oul]

oh well
at least it works now but i have no idea why or how you managed to get those errors.