Team Catching up Update

[gatekeeper53]

OK this team seems to be for real and wants our 1st place. Their output is nothing short of amazing!!! They are putting out about 5,000 points per day. They have a few heavy hitters and a few people with some nice machines but, the secret to their sucess is the shear numbers of people they have. You can see from this link the rate they have members joining. http://stats.free-dc.org/new/teamstats.php?proj=pi&team=Team+Blueberry+PI
I know this isn't a project that's going to save the world or anything the stated purpose of this project is to advance DC'ing in China. But, we are now #1 and that seems to be in jepordy. Anyone that wants to toss a machine or 25 at this will be a help.

[Lagu]

I´m running 3 PI on all computers as can run thet project. It is too bad many have stopped running that project. If that project also support 3Dnow I could run it on 3 computers

To you as have an AMD or at least one Intel PIII as support SSE2 please join us and help us avoid 2th rank in the future. :icon_wink:

[vaughan]

Commenced switchover ... hang in there Terry, I'm on my way. :)

[AMDave]

That would be Ars Technica Team Blueberry PI (http://episteme.arstechnica.com/eve/forums/a/tpc/f/122097561/m/361005503831/p/5)

[gatekeeper53]

I found this on their forum:


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Yeah, baby! And we still have a week to go!

So, if we can hold them off for a week they should start to lose intrest! I hope.At present we have a little over an 11 day cushion.

[Ototero]

I have 4 cores running on this now.

[leavitron]

I have 4 cores running on this now.

I am sorry but I feel that you are going to need a lot more cores than that.

AMDave is right. We are Ars Technica Team Blueberry PI. I issued this gauntlet challenge to try and take as many places as we could in a short period of time. Thus my "we still have a week left" comment that was quoted above. It looks like most of the team, though, is wanting to stay on long enough to take and hold first place. I am happy that we have some friendly competition here, Team AMD Users.

According to my calcuations we should overtake the 2nd place team in about 10 hours. We'll be even with you in just under 8 days.

I think it's fair to say that in two weeks the best team will be holding first place! :icon_mrgreen:

[Ototero]

But are you going to stay there 'coz we'll be back.

Come on all you AMDers, stick a core or 2 on this for 2 weeks.

Normal proceedings will resume after this.

[Beerknurd]

I will as soon as I get back in town. I'm in Austin and away from the farm... I'll add 7 cores on Monday...

[leavitron]

But are you going to stay there 'coz we'll be back.

Well let's see. I said we would be in the #2 spot in 10 hours and it only took 9. If current production stays fairly constant, we'll pass you in 8 days as predicted. For every day we maintain that constant, we put almost 4000 WUs between us and yourselves. Even if we cut that in half, we're still doing over twice your daily production. I think it's clear that we will stay on top unless we were to lose the bulk of our current producers.

More importantly, have you guys noticed the increase in the slope of the project graph on the main PI Segment stats page? That is due primarily to this competition. If we keep this up, the project will be over a lot sooner than Jianan expected. I think that is a big win for him and his design goal. All the more important reason to ramp this up!

[AMDave]

Yeah. That deviation is pretty cool.
The project is at 22.99 percent completion as I look it it now.
Passing 30 percent will be a great milestone for JUST.

[AMD-USR_JL]

I am adding everything I have that has a processor tomorrow. I'm not letting what occurred at the Red Library take place again.


:qleft7:http://entenmanns.gwbakeries.com/images/products/e_blueberry_pie.gif

[Bender10]

I have 5 boxes going now. I have another 3 that I am switching over this afternoon.

These blueberries seem to want this bad. They have 30 users with 3 boxes or better each (verses our 16...).

[PcManiac]

ok, I added my laptop (now oced from 1.6ghz to 1.711 ;) ) and my main rig.
when I added my server, it won't download any work units, because it says I don't have enough credit. ?
the specs of the computer are:
server 2003 enterprise
celeron 2.7ghz
1 GB memory.

anyone have a clue?

thanks!

[Bender10]

It looks like you have not uploaded enough results to generate credit for downloads??

I think the system charges you credit (100) to perform downloads...

[NVM]

if that fellow over at Ars actually has 50 more computers, it doesn't look good.

[Bender10]

It looks like the whole team registered between Jan/Mar this year??

[Accs]

ok, I added my laptop (now oced from 1.6ghz to 1.711 ;) ) and my main rig.
when I added my server, it won't download any work units, because it says I don't have enough credit. ?

anyone have a clue?Bender10 was right. You didn't have enough credit to download any more WUs. The current stats show that you should be able to get some work now.
It looks like the whole team registered between Jan/Mar this year??Correct. The AMD Users team has ~14000 points of credit for helping with the Beta testing. I guess we'll have to crunch through that too :icon_mrgreen:

[Steve Lux]

Although I'm not really interested in math projects I am putting my X64 3800+ on this Pi Segment to help out the team. I still have 3 days worth of Protiens@Home WU's left to crunch through first.

[leavitron]

I am adding everything I have that has a processor tomorrow. I'm not letting what occurred at the Red Library take place again.

Somebody in our discussion thread mentioned this. You were not supposed to remember that! But since you did, you are not to take it personal. We're just having fun! :icon_mrgreen:


if that fellow over at Ars actually has 50 more computers, it doesn't look good.

If Flawed figures it out, you betcha NVM! If I was still working at my former employer and could have dropped this on the 54 terminal servers I was responsible for, it would already be over. (Dual-hyperthreaded P4 Xeon 2.6's with 8GB of RAM, on 24x7x365.2440136 and on average used 3 hours out of the day.)

[temna]

If Flawed gets it figured out, that's fine. Atleast he's employed. Atleast he has access to work computers. If I cheated and used work computers, I could be #1. All the machines I am using are home machines. I was trying to help Ars for old times sake. But hey, if my help isn't wanted, maybe AMDusers will accept it.

[Steve Lux]

We certainly will, and welcome to the party.

[vaughan]

Welcome Angus from Free-DC. Thanks for helping out.
:icon_wink:

[gatekeeper53]

I just talked to a guy from the Comp. Sci Dept. and he says we have this sitting around here somewhere:
http://www.ks.uiuc.edu/Development/Computers/Cluster/ariel.html
I think in the morning I'll pick up a bag of donuts and go see it they'll let me throw a little PI on it. Heck what's the use of having a part-time job being retired if you don't get a few beneies?

[vaughan]

$183k worth of computer power. Nice :)

Pity Pi Segment wouldn't run on it tho' as its a Linux platform and Pi Segment is Windows 2k and above only.

[NVM]

then Wine or a Virtual Player.

[Nflight]

Welcome to the Team there Temna ! Nice crunching your doing. Sure it beats not crunching at all and I saw the post of Ars Technica asking you to return, I guess they have second thoughts after you moved in with the better team (aka AMD Users). Welcome Aboard ! :blob3:

[Zeppelin]

If Angus is in, I'm in. 'BigZ' :icon_mrgreen:

Now, just need some spare credits to start up the rest of the farm.

[leavitron]

Gatekeeper53 - That is some SERIOUS hardware! :shocked:



If Flawed gets it figured out, that's fine. Atleast he's employed. Atleast he has access to work computers. If I cheated and used work computers, I could be #1. All the machines I am using are home machines. I was trying to help Ars for old times sake. But hey, if my help isn't wanted, maybe AMDusers will accept it.

It's reassuring to see that your character has not changed.

[gatekeeper53]

$183k worth of computer power. Nice :)

Pity Pi Segment wouldn't run on it tho' as its a Linux platform and Pi Segment is Windows 2k and above only.


Oh well there are a few (7 or 8,000) around that run XP lol I bet they would get tired of me sitting in the labs loading this stuff up on all the desktops lol

[Beerknurd]

I have 7 cores going....

[Lagu]

Well, thats very good Beerknurd:icon_thumright:

[vaughan]

Glad you've joined us Beerknurd. :)

[Beerknurd]

Yea, I figure I'll catch up to you in EON later... :)

[vaughan]

BigZ is really knocking out these Pi Segments today.

Great fight being put up by our team.

Way to go fellas :icon_wink:

[gatekeeper53]

Now Zep those numbers are impressive! I take it that you own a buttload of your local power company's stock.

[gatekeeper53]

It's just not fair! I'm starting to find out we have a whole bunch of nice things sitting around here:
http://www.ncsa.uiuc.edu/UserInfo/Resources/Hardware/TGIA64LinuxCluster/
http://www.ncsa.uiuc.edu/UserInfo/Resources/Hardware/SGIAltix/TechSummary/
But, almost all of them run Linux. And people are a little touchy about what you run on them.

[Steve Lux]

Have you explained that you are only trying to save their lives and their children's lives with biological/medical research and to help mankind understand its impact on the global environment - and other lofty selfless and altruistic goals?

[Ototero]

Thanks for the help you guys. Much appreciated.

[PcManiac]

HELP! how do you run the client behind a proxy?!!!

EDIT: never mind ... it is working now lol

[NVM]

does this project run as a hidden service?

[gatekeeper53]

LMAO I don't think so but I'm not 100% positive. You wouldn't be headed off to the mall would you? Or Best Buy.

[Bender10]

What happens if you just stop the *GUI.exe??

Never mind...

[NVM]

what about with FireDaemon? i'll try it myself later. :icon_wink:

[Beerknurd]

We really need some more help on this project.... I have all my power on it... Even that is only 170 WU's a day roughly....

[NVM]

i'm going to try my Opty165 on it.i'll then see if it works with a program like FireDaemon.

note: looks like it recognized 2 cores?

[leavitron]

I've got to admit that you guys can drum up the business as well. In the 4 days you have had this thread functional, you've more than tripled your output. Nicely done! I've revised our projected overtake from 8 days to 17 days as of the 2130 EDT stats on the PI Segment teams page.

I guess we're going to have to press harder to get another doubling of our output to match your increase.

[Beerknurd]

Hopefully we can get some more power on this... You guys are doing one hell of a job.... If and when you do pass us, you will have definitely earned it.

http://i16.photobucket.com/albums/b49/jaclar79/Smilies/cheers.gif

[vaughan]

Yes it recognises dual cores.

NVM have you tried HideIt? (http://www.geocities.com/SiliconValley/Sector/2035/hideit.html)

Cheers,
Vaughan


i'm going to try my Opty165 on it.i'll then see if it works with a program like FireDaemon.

note: looks like it recognized 2 cores?

[PcManiac]

I noticed on my hyper-threading computer at school, it shows 2 cores... however, it only used like 25% each... I tried to have 2 clients running, but that didn't work out so well... kinda messed up my computer, and now it won't run at all ... I'll try again tomorrow lol

[vaughan]

PcManiac I had the same problem on a C2D e6300. The solution was to delete the PiSegment config.ini file. Next time you run PiSegment gui.exe it will create a new config.ini file.

I have a similar problem with Doomeva's A64 X2-4600. It likes to mess-up its config.ini file if PiSegment is shutdown. When I restart it thinks its a single core. The answer again is delete the config.ini file etc. Now I have a working copy of the config.ini file that I just rename from config.ini.backup to config.ini :)

Hope this helps :icon_mrgreen:

[Skuzz]

I have added in 3 Cores.

[leavitron]

PcManiac I had the same problem on a C2D e6300. The solution was to delete the PiSegment config.ini file. Next time you run PiSegment gui.exe it will create a new config.ini file.

Vaughan - Does this corrup your downloaded work units or cause you to have to start over on the work unit you were crunching?

I've only had one problem with the client so far. I moved my system to a different case. At that time I moved one card to a different PCI slot. My system had to re-arrange IRQs of course and for some odd reason this threw the PI Segment exe into normal priority instead of lowest. Every try opening Outlook with both logical units pegged?!? It was not pretty until I figured it out.

[PcManiac]

PcManiac I had the same problem on a C2D e6300. The solution was to delete the PiSegment config.ini file. Next time you run PiSegment gui.exe it will create a new config.ini file.

I have a similar problem with Doomeva's A64 X2-4600. It likes to mess-up its config.ini file if PiSegment is shutdown. When I restart it thinks its a single core. The answer again is delete the config.ini file etc. Now I have a working copy of the config.ini file that I just rename from config.ini.backup to config.ini :)
Hope this helps :icon_mrgreen:

I'll try it. I use 2 computers at school with the same removable hard drive. I think I'll go the first room, and make a backup of the config, and then the second and make a backup of that... that way whenever I move back n forth, I'll just switch config files :D .. I"ll let you know if this works.

Thanks

Edit: It actually doesn't have any problems if I don't mess with it lol

[Bender10]

I'm running Pi on a laptop. When I got home this afternoon, the laptop was not responding. I shut it off, re-booted, and Pi came up running in the middle of a wu. It seemed fine.

There was nothing in the log about a corrupt wu.

[NVM]

i find that laptops don't like to cruch that well because of heat. i've overcome this by keeping a fan pointed at it.

[vaughan]

I have mine raised off the table by about a half inch. This allows maximum airflow to the laptop's fans. The core duos are MUCH cooler than the P4 Northwood laptop, with the PIII between them in heat output. The XPS M1710 has some large capacity fans inside it (for a laptop); I think they are there to cool the GPU. It has dual exhaust pipes at the rear :icon_eek:

[Bender10]

It's actually out in the garage...the temp outside is about 40-50, nice and cool. The problem may have been in the power settings. hd spindown, network card going off to save..

It's raised up on a wire cookie rack.

I went through it and disabled all the power save stuff.

[temna]

I have three notebooks running Pi without any problems. My biggest problem is usually right at install. An install will get corrupt if it has a problem connecting the first time. If that happens, usually installing over itself will fix it. Barring that, delete and start over worked. hmm, with five desktops and three notebooks crunching 24 hours a day, I'm curious what that will do to the power bill. Well, that and the new 24" LCD. :)

[Beerknurd]

My laptop gets super hot if not elevated off the table.

[Zeppelin]

Sorry for the drop off, I had power issues. Mostly resolved now, so back to building up a head of steam. :icon_wink:

Adding more as I have time.

[Ototero]

Nice pharm. A few giggle hertz there.

[Beerknurd]

Wow, I haven't seen you in a while... Thanks for the help Zeppelin!!!

[NVM]

cool. i may take a Sengent break too.

[Bender10]

POWER ISSUES!!

Geez, did Homer turn off the Reactor again reaching for a donut??

:3dblob3:

[gatekeeper53]

WELCOME BACK BIG Z!!!!!

[Zeppelin]

:hello: To all.



cool. i may take a Sengent break too. Me thinks Mike has lost his way?

[Steve Lux]

I have tried running Pi-Segment from a USB ram stick like I do with D2OL, but so far with no luck. Anyone else tried?

[NVM]

Me thinks Mike has lost his way?

nope. :icon_wink:

[spikey_richie]

After receiving a smap e-mither I jumped back on the band-wagon

[PcManiac]

Back to the Laptops, I have my Turion64 running on the dining room table. I just have Pi Segment running on my user name, and then I just switched users so that anyone else can use the laptop if needed.

I have my Laptop OCed from 1.6 ghz to 1.75 ghz. I think that should help a tiny bit more.



It's raised up on a wire cookie rack.

hmm, I'll try that lol

I went through it and disabled all the power save stuff.
Yeah, me too, as far as power is concerned, it is "always on" :)

[Beerknurd]

My 150 WU's a day hardly seems worth it, and doesn't even make a pea sized dent in the amount that Blueberry PI is bringing at us.... Should I be putting that power somewhere else like back on EON, where I was getting 25,000+ WU's a day???

[NVM]

but that puts you at the 5th or 6th top producer on PI....150 is a lot.

[Beerknurd]

Maybe it is just the scoring... It just doesn't seem like alot...

[Bender10]

I sent out a few messages this afternoon. I saw that a few people that were in the project were out doing other things. I just thought that we should either let the bluberries have 1st, or we can stay there, or make 'em werk for it.

It's not my call to quit, so I'm peddaling as fast as I can...and lookin for a couple or 50 cpu's hiding in the basement, behind the dresser, under the truck, in the shed, under the porch... :lol:

[PcManiac]

It's not my call to quit, so I'm peddaling as fast as I can...and lookin for a couple or 50 cpu's hiding in the basement, behind the dresser, under the truck, in the shed, under the porch... :lol:

Haha! I was totally about to go do that myself, I have a few older computers (200 - 1000 mhz siting in the basement somewhere ... might try to get those up n going again lol... this is fun ! :icon_lol:

[Steve Lux]

Odd. I put Pi Segment on a ram stick so I could crunch on a work computer also, but now the version I have installed on my system won't run. Neither the one on the stick or in my 'puter will run. I've tried to re-install, but still no workie. Any ideas?

[gatekeeper53]

Steve,
I run mine from a folder I keep right on my desktop. If you have a bad file in the orig folder you might try just deleating the whole folder and downloading a fresh copy.

[temna]

Kewl, I finally cracked into the top 10 and passed 2k.. I'm thinking about building a pair of 5200+ machines and dedicating them to DC..

[Bender10]

Nice going Temna.

I have another relic in the basement that might go on the air later.

:icon_razz:

[Beerknurd]

Your welcome Temna. Keep that spot warm for me.... I'll miss my #10... :(

[Lagu]

My 150 WU's a day hardly seems worth it, and doesn't even make a pea sized dent in the amount that Blueberry PI is bringing at us.... Should I be putting that power somewhere else like back on EON, where I was getting 25,000+ WU's a day???

Beerknurd, remember you crunch for the collective and it is our total points as counts. I think we will run PI to the bitter end.:icon_wink:

[PcManiac]

i wish I had money to build a couple more computers ... grrr I can't wait until I have a "real" job! I'd build a couple of these computers (http://www.kylescomputing.com/computers.htm) ...
The $3000 one lol

[Bender10]

Hmmm... Time to build another X2 box.

[Beerknurd]

In the link on PcManiac's post above it mentions a low end AMD machine featuring an AMD X2 3600+??? Huh.... I thought the X2's started at 3800+???

[NVM]

ok, since i joined up a couple days ago along with Steve Lux and Skuzz, four more members have joined. they are: Alex64,moderna,BJohansson,and spjeff69!

give 'er guys!

more, more! we're still getting outpaced. i'll add more tomorrow and focus all i have now on this. lets see if this team can reverse the roles, if only for a short time.

[gatekeeper53]

Beer that 150 a day negates the bottom 7 Blueberry crunchers in the top 100! I'd say that made a heck of a dent! On the following page do a sort on the heading "Today" and look at what is being produced.
http://stats.free-dc.org/new/allusers.php?proj=pi&orderby=d0&direction=DESC

Oh and I got another 3500 fired up awhile ago.

[NVM]

holy crap. Bender is putting the woots away! good stuff mang...:)

or should i say "vely vely niiiice"

[Beerknurd]

I think I figured out my problem... My X2 4200 is only operating at half speed... It says it is only putting out 40 per day. I found another X2 4200 on another sig (Bender10) and it is getting 80+ per day. It should be doing twice as much as it is right now... If this is correct I should be processing close to 200 per day overall... I will have to investigate once I get home...

All those Intel's look bad huh... :lol:

[gatekeeper53]

Bud if they produce they are GGrrrrrrrrate!
And I have that piece of crap T-50 and it's kickin out 50 to 60 you might take a look at your config file. It might be set to only 1 cpu.

[Beerknurd]

Why is your sig in Chinese??? It isn't if I look it up... But it is in your sig???

http://www.pisegment.net/sign/signid.aspx?userid=39058378-fd72-4fd2-a67d-42e6ffd5884d&language=en

[gatekeeper53]

I'm Special (Ed) LMAO shoot I don't have a clue I must have screwed something up.

[Beerknurd]

If you want it in Engrish. Copy the image location of the picture above... I would keep it in Chinese... It does make you look special... (not Ed) :lol:


HAHA, now i'm special too!!!!!!!

http://www.pisegment.net/sign/signid.aspx?userid=05dc4f2e-e0d6-4cef-905f-01bc8b416cc3&language=en.png

[gatekeeper53]

Gee I get to hit a milestone tonight. That don't seem like a big thing but I haven't hit one yet this year! The last one was 10,000 and that's been a while.

[Beerknurd]

OK I am officially stumped... I figured out that a hung process was using half my resources, so I should be getting about a 40 point jump or so. I will probably produce around 200 per day.

But now I can't figure out why it is only detecting a 1577 MHz processor. It says that the processor is an X2 4200+ but the speed is all wrong. I doubt this makes any difference, but I wonder why it's wrong. I have tried deleting the config file and restarting everything. I even tried installing a new copy in another folder, but it still says 1577 MHz.

Does anyone have any ideas what might be causing this??? Does this update as you go along??

http://i16.photobucket.com/albums/b49/jaclar79/AMD%20Users%20Stuff/untitled-2.jpg

[Bender10]

Hey Beerknurd,
Thanks for being here buddy. I'm with Lagu, every point counts on this one. But, The whole "working for the collective" has me worried about who Lagu REALLY is...are we being assimilated....

Anyway, I haven't had a problem (as you see) with the Pi recognizing my X2's. That is too strange. Did you try uninstall, reboot, reinstall??? And yes, my Intel's suck on this Pi crunching. I'm gonna order another X2 parts kit today. Most likely an am2 x2 4800.

[PcManiac]

Sweet! are you ordering from newegg? do we get to see all the components you are going to use? lol

I was just noticing that the AM2 x2 4800+ (http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16819103778) which runs at 2.5ghz is just $15 less than the AMD x2 5200+ (http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16819103759) which is 2.6 ... not a whole lot more, but the 5200+ (http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16819103759) has 2x1mb L2 cache instead of 2x512k. however the 4800+ (http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16819103778) is built with 65nm tech, and the 5200+ (http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16819103759) is 90nm...

[gatekeeper53]

Bender don't order the 4800+!!! Go for the 5200+. I have 4 of the 48's and I have a heck of a time keeping them cool. The only one I use for crunching I have a $130 cooler on and still can't run it consistantly past 2.8. The other 3 my wife got me for xmas and I ended up putting them in her and the kids machines. They are a bear to cool at 100%. With the 5200 even if you can't oc it the speed is there. And you should be able to bump it 10%.

[Bender10]

The 65w 4800+ does not run cool?? I didn't see that anywhere when I was looking at the reviews. But, I can't look everywhere, AlGore made the Internet TOO BIG!!.

That was why I was going with the 4800, low pwr and cool... Ooops, I ordered it this morning in the dark when I got to werk....

I went with the 4800(65w) for a low pwr setup because this was going in a BOINCpe box, no HD, just a cdrom. I liked the 5200 for the L2, but wanted the box to be easy to cool. Right now I am running x2 4200's with the oem cooler. No oc on those yet...

Crap on a STICK. I hope you are wrong.

[gatekeeper53]

Opps the 65w should be ok the ones I have are the 939 socket 85w (I think).

[Steve Lux]

AlGore made the Internet TOO BIG!!.

Well, he made global warming all our fault too. Shows what Al Gore knows...

[Bender10]

Ok, That sounds better. I'm only buying AM2 cpu's now. The low power one's if possible.

AM2 4800+
ASUS M2N-MX mobo
APEVIA X-QPACK
1 gig ddr2 pc4200

I was trying to keep the price down, but the 4800 put a stop to that...

[gatekeeper53]

That's great I love the 4800 I've had mine to 3.275 but can't cool it.

[Evil-Dragon]

Guys i'm letting my Boinc WU's end and then i'm putting all my PC's on PiSegment.

[mitchellds]

I'll switch over 12 cores tonight also.

[gatekeeper53]

Looks like this party should start to be a lot of fun.

[Bender10]

There goes the neighborhood...:dontknow:

[Bender10]

Hey Beeknurd,
Get your 4200 squared away yet?

Checked bios?

[NVM]

i think i have six running now. have a few more to switch over. mostly all Bartons.

[gatekeeper53]

Takes us a while to get wound up Leav. But, when we do you guys better have good lifeboats because that blueberry's going to be turned to syrup. lol

[PcManiac]

Don't tell anyone (promise?) but I am trying to find a way to drop the client onto my fellow students, and maybe since all the computer are the same, the config files will work without me having to log in hehe :icon_twisted:

Edit: It looks like we are starting to catch up on the upload [24hr]; we are at 3550, and they are at 5502. last week we were at around 2800ish I think :)

[gatekeeper53]

Andy Help!! If your not doing anything important we could sure use some of that English firepower in Pi. And where the heck have you been? Good to see you here though.

[Beerknurd]

Not yet, it is still showing 1577 MHz. But I think the WU's are correct now. I can already tell I am getting more points. If it ain't broke don't fix it...

[Bender10]

Glad to hear it. I see your Intels don't like Pi any more than mine do.

[gatekeeper53]

Don't worry too much my 4800 shows 64,185 MHz and the T-50 is 12,529 MHz LOL don't I wish! I think dual cores confuse Just's program.

[NVM]

i have a sig thingy...:icon_mrgreen:

[NVM]

crap. i see in my sig thingy my 1 gig T-bird wasn't producing, so i went and looked and sure enough, it was offline. fixed now, thanks sig thingy!

[Steve Lux]

I finally got Pi-Segment working on this 3800+ dual core again. I had to delete the PS folder and unzip the downloaded file again. Tomorrow the Protiens WU's will run out and I'll shut down d2OL, then this system will be full on with Pi-Segment.

Also, I plan to go to the ex's house and see if I can get PS working on my son's 4800+ dual core. He'll have 5 days worth of Protiens to work though also, but when they run out that system will be full on with Pi Segment too.

Still trying to figure out how to get PS to run from a USB ram stick.

[temna]

Some stupid Windows update took down most of my machines this morning some time.. Stoopid automatic update.. </homersimpsonvoice>

[gatekeeper53]

From looking at the scores it got a lot of people. What gets me is that it happens to often and most of them are crap!

[Bender10]

That's why I stick with manual updates. As long as my anti-virus does auto updates, the windoze stuff can wait.

I just check for u/d's on 1 box once and a while (weekly), then patch as needed.

I'm still running off some BOINC stuff. It should be done on all boxes by this evening.

[NVM]

where the heck is Zep? :help:

[mitchellds]

Well how about our daily update gatekeeper53? Anything changed yet?

I was up to 25th this morning after moving my droids to eat some PI lastnight.

Everyone ought to try to make contact with our big crunchers and get em over here for a slice of PI.

[Steve Lux]

Yeah, what happened to BigZ? We need that output.

Also, I got PS working from a USB ram stick. Crunching on it now (on the firewalled system at work). Darn Intel P4 dual core wannabe is s-l-o-w...

Thinking on this project last night, and being the paranoid fella that I am, I came up with a concern. As the WU's are limited in number, what's to stop a team from mass downloading at the end to gobble up all the remaining work units and prevent another team from competing?

[vaughan]

Everyone ought to try to make contact with our big crunchers and get em over here for a slice of PI.

Done....10

[Bender10]

Is there a trick to getting Pi on a stick? Twisted minds would like to know...

[leavitron]

Takes us a while to get wound up Leav. But, when we do you guys better have good lifeboats because that blueberry's going to be turned to syrup. lol

You mean, like, until the day after the gauntlet is over?!? :icon_mrgreen:

Regretfully, we have people starting to return to their other projects. You have to admit, that basically halving the gap between us in that time is pretty amazing, though. Hopefully most will stay on until the end.

[gatekeeper53]

Well since we were unaware of your gauntlet until a week ago, I wouldn't call it a gauntlet that's a sneak attack lol. I see where you'll be losing one of your 2 top crunchers monday. I'll be sorry to see him go this project would end just that much quicker if he would stay. I've been on it from near the beginning and to be honest I'd like to see it done and in the books as a first for our team. I did see a differance in the two teams and that is that a few of our crunchers use limited machines from their place of employment the large majority of us lunitics own all these boxes. I noticed a downturn in your numbers on the weekends. No matter what it's all in fun and for a good cause.

[NVM]

this is a ploy to let us get our gaurds down! we're not even outproducing them yet.

[gatekeeper53]

As for an update: Dave M. is running wild and throwing Pi everywhere. We are still down from the BB numbers! We lost another 1500 points to them yesterday. So far today, right now we are down 300 to them. Much of that I think was from our friend Bill Gates. They are slowing down but so are we darn it. We have 4 people that had output yesterday that haven't reported anything today with BB losing 6 people none on either were major numbers but every little bit helps. You only need to have 1 more than the other team to win and who knows it might have been one of those 10 people that would have made the differance. As it is BB still has 40 people returning output and we have only 30 so every one of our team is a huge loss. I hope Zep's problems with power turn out to be minor, but when it comes to "elec problems" you can't even guess. I do know we could sure use some of his output. What it all comes down to is that according to yesterdays numbers we have a 19 1/2 day lead. With the power that BB has shown us we all know that it could evaporate in an instant and that it takes us awhile to ramp up to hold people off. We really do need a strike force for times like this. Have a great day everyone and I'm going to do as Bender does and set my updates to manual.

[gatekeeper53]

Yeah, what happened to BigZ? We need that output.

Also, I got PS working from a USB ram stick. Crunching on it now (on the firewalled system at work). Darn Intel P4 dual core wannabe is s-l-o-w...

Thinking on this project last night, and being the paranoid fella that I am, I came up with a concern. As the WU's are limited in number, what's to stop a team from mass downloading at the end to gobble up all the remaining work units and prevent another team from competing?

As for the ethics of hording all the wu"s I talked to Just, who is the project owner, this morning and was told that they are watching for this and no matter the team that tries it the entire team will be axed. I knew when Steve said that it would be trouble. They are already discussing it over in the BB forum. Just has started to put a 2 day expiration of wu.s back in to prevent all of us from doing things we wouldn't do except in the heat of compeation.

[Steve Lux]

2 days? ACK! Last night I put 50 WUs on this stick and a lot of WU's on my home system (75 I think). Neither will be done in 2 days. I was just trying to ensure that I had a few days worth in case of problems.

What do I do with the left over WU's?

[Bender10]

Geez, Unless you have a screamin' dual core or 2, I'd just do the best you can.

Then write 1000 times on the blackboard "I will not Bogart WU's"......

[Ototero]

At the current rates of both teams, we can hold on for 24 days. And we still have a few big hitters still to join the party :)

[Steve Lux]

Is there a trick to getting Pi on a stick? Twisted minds would like to know...

Heh. Actually it's easier than Pie. You simply have to have only one session of the PS GUI running at a time. The problem I was having was that the stick session wouldn't run while the active session was running.

So, if you shut down the active session, load up the stick session, log into your user account, download work units, log off from the PS stick session and start your system session back up. Plug your stick into your firewalled (work) computer and start up the GUI. It will crunch on the other machine.

Unless there is some major glitch I should be able to simply bring the stick back home, shut down the PS session that is running, plug the stick session back in and start it up. It should be able to upload the completed WUs and download new ones for the stick.

I think one of the reasons my WU's are going as slow as they are is because I still have D2OL running the remaining 800 WU's (a week's worth) on my work computer. PS seems to have a lower priority. But I have D2OL set to not download any more work units, so eventually PS will speed up.

[Bender10]

I wish it was that easy to run off some of these Nano wu's I still have. As of late, they have been running long. When I get home tonight, I hope most of them are gone. Checking the site, most are still crunching....

I have a couple in the boxes that were up to 29-30 hours this morning.

[mitchellds]

Hey can somebody explain to me how the credit system works in relation to the score on this project? Looking at our team members credit, I see lotsa members with 2000 credit, but all with different scores of course.

Is it somehow related to how much credit you have for downloading new work with maybe 2000 being the max?

[vaughan]

You score 1 point per Pi task completed. These take about 1 hour each on a 3GHz PC. To stop people d/l too many tasks and maybe abandoning them, JUST, the project author / admin created the 20,000 limit. Each d/l task uses up 100 of these 20,000 credits. This means a user is initially limited to d/l'ing no more than 200 tasks. However, each PC has a limit of 100 tasks. So you would max out if you started with 2 PCs and let them both download 100 tasks. As you return finished work you are credited with 300 credits units. This then allows you to d/l 3 more tasks. and so on. The SCORE is the important number as it shows your comparison to other members. The CREDIT system is like an artifical currency to stop over zealous downloading.

At one time there was a penalty for returning time-expired tasks. You earned 1 point for the SCORE, but only received 100 for your credits. This was to encourage timely return of work. If you want to stop running you just put a check mark tick in the box on the User tab of the GUI that says "Do not download new Work Unit"

Occasionally, JUST will allocated bonus score points. The most recent was a reward of a point to every participant contributing work on Chinese New Year. Another time was on 1.1.2007. He does this as a friendly reward to his volunteer participants. You may have also noticed that in the Individual members score pages of the official stats that some names are in red, the others in black text. The red ones are "honorable project testers". These people contributed results during the various test phases of the project when JUST was ironing out early bugs in the software. They are also entitled to have "honorable project testers" included in their personal stats signature for use in forums like ours.

[mitchellds]

ah, interesting , thanks for the explanation.

[temna]

nmm, in ten days of crunching, I crack the top 40.. Maybe the wife is right.. Maybe I DO have too many computers.. Still.. There HAS to be room for a few more.. hmm.. Can you install Windows on an AS/400? :)

[vaughan]

I guess that's an emulation mode or something like vmware for it?

[Bender10]

As of this morning, I only have 2 Nano wu's left go, then those extra cycles will be on Pi. They are running on dual core boxes.

The bad news is last night my laptop smoked :-( I think (fan locked up) , and an Intel box shut down for unknown reasons. I think the Intel box will live again.

[gatekeeper53]

Expensive smoke sorry to hear that.

[temna]

Argh.. What kind of WU will a X2 3800+ chew? $550 for an SFF HP X2 3800 at BB.. *ponders*

[Bender10]

Soapbox rant:

You can build one yourself for about the same. It depends if you like building or not.

A am2 4200+ box should cost about 430-500 depending on prices. with no os, on board video, 1 g ram, small sata hd, generic dvd.

Or just use parts from around the basement, I do that for dvd and HD. Too much stuff laying around.

You won't be able to game (maybe light weight games) with it, unless you buy a video card.

Crunching and Gaming are 2 different build directions. I crunch with my game (BF2142) box. I cannot game with a cruncher. My gamer cost $1000, cruncher $450.

When you build, you get what you want in the box (and you may pay more). Sometimes 'off the shelf' is no a bad thing. Different strokes...

Hope this helps.

*** Note: You can still get for FREE, Windoze x64 Trial software. I use this on Both of my AM2 X2 Boxes. I think it's good for 120 days?? I last paid around $80 for x64 retail. Caution!! There is NO UPGRADE path to Vista for x64.

[Bender10]

No big deal with the laptop. It was a freebie (and old). I will have to replace it now. That will be spendy.

[NVM]

gamer, say hello to the #1 Canadian...:icon_mrgreen:

[mitchellds]

heh heh, I take my Tuque off to you !!

[Nflight]

Alright then, I found that EON takes processing power away from the Systems to crunch PI Segment, so now I am just running Dimes and PI.
And since I have at my access someone else's computer I borg'd that too. I should be able to reach for 150 credits a day, I hope.
Fingers are crossed !

The Snowstorm puts a damper on seeing clients, I got up at 4:30AM and started the Snow Blowing exercise. I got out just in time to drive to a business meeting/Breakfast. It is called devotion...:icon_razz:

Oh We got 10 inches of the White stuff and the wind has whipped up today to drift shut all the roads they opened this morning.

[NVM]

well, you can have our toques. i'm going golfing now. :icon_razz:

FORE! (http://www.golfcourseclubhouse.com/BritishColumbia/BurnabyMountainGolfCourse/9058)

[mitchellds]

Temna,

My 3800 x2 @ 2300 did 89 PI Wu's in the last 24 hrs. compared to my intel 6300 @ 3500 with 105 PI wu's in the last 25.

[moderna]

We are running about 700 a day behind their average over the last 24 hours. That will delay their assault and their total for the day dropped a bit. I think we may have more depth but this is a tough one.

Go Team!!!

[Steve Lux]

Good news on the borging USB ram stick. Seems it is uploading and downloading through our company firewall, despite the warning I got about not having sufficient access >smirk<. Once my other stick is done with the remaining 600 WU's of D2OL I'll set that to PS also.

Bad news on the home front is that I had to abort about a dozen Protiens WU's on my home system as they didn't finish in time.

Home system (X2 3800+) is now 100% on PS and MJ-12. Work system (P4 dual wannabe) is 100% on PS. Tomorrow or Monday I'll have my son's computer (x2 +4800) on PS (But he'll still have a few days of Proteins WUs to finish up). And by the end of next week I'll have another work P4 on PS at 100% (as soon as it is done with the D2OL wu's).

[jmblazek]

It's good to see the takeover time increasing...it's now up to 17 days. However, the bad news is it still exists.

[Bender10]

I just finished my last Nano wu's. But, 1 smoked laptop, 1 Intel down that needs looking at.

Ah ha!, I have my wife's home office cpu running part time.

[PcManiac]

Just a note that my Server might be gone for a bit, I am about to upgrade to Server 2003 R2 Enterprise :D Wish me luck on this lol

[gatekeeper53]

Temna,

My 3800 x2 @ 2300 did 89 PI Wu's in the last 24 hrs. compared to my intel 6300 @ 3500 with 105 PI wu's in the last 25.

And the price diff is what?

[mitchellds]

bout 25 bucks

[gatekeeper53]

I see Andy (Strongbow) has started to put some power into Pi. Thanks Andy your just what the Doctor ordered.

[Strongbow]

No problem, just take 6 a day and drink lots of water!:icon_lol:

I'll load up more of my systems with the client as we move through the week so hopefully should be able to give us some more oommpphh! :)

[PcManiac]

Just a note that my Server might be gone for a bit, I am about to upgrade to Server 2003 R2 Enterprise :D Wish me luck on this lol

Yay Success! I am now running my server with Server 2003 Enterprise R2! woot! updating right now with SP2, and stuffs, but I got PS going already :D
(SP2 for server is 120MB: just in case you were wondering, but I doubt it)

does anyones else have a computer with R2?

[AMDave]

does anyones else have a computer with R2?
I did run it briefly on my server but it was no better than a desktop.
reboot to patch this, reboot to install that. Bah.
I switched to Fedora and then RHEL4 and eliminated all my rebooting issues.
Now my uptime is measured in months+ and I am a happier person for it.

[vaughan]

does anyones else have a computer with R2?
My work uses it. I just visit the server by remote connection when I have to.
Main problem is the unreliability of our ADSL supplier.

[DMMc]

OK guys...running Pi Segment on systems below...and looking for a way to get it on a few more.
Anyway to run as service? :icon_twisted:

[Opteron]

I'm hoping to have 4 machines on this by the end of the week guys...

[Steve Lux]

DMMc, you can put it on a USB Ram stick and run it. You just have to make sure you don't have another instance crunching or it won't run (download WU's, recognise your system, etc). But once you have it running on the USB stick you can run it anywhere. I have a P4 system at work borged and going through our firewall.

[Bender10]

I fixed my broken Intel box. Now I really have everything running execpt the kitchen sink.

[Beerknurd]

I need some more computers!!!!!!

[NVM]

we're going to lose. :rolleyes:

[PcManiac]

I fixed my broken Intel box. Now I really have everything running execpt the kitchen sink.
Sweet! that is good to hear :)
The water is not going to help you crunch any faster lol

[Nflight]

NO Sir, in the background there is an Army being assembled, A very big army! BY this weekend you should see them squirm....Muh Hah hah:icon_twisted:

[Nflight]

I fixed my broken Intel box. Now I really have everything running except the kitchen sink.

I could not find a Kitchen Sink with a desktop built in but, this is a Desktop in the Kitchen so I am on the right track: http://www.dsat.com/images/final/silhouette%20ii/sil2-kitchen.jpg

I'll keep looking for you there Bender10....

[Beerknurd]

we're going to lose. :rolleyes:

That's the spirit!!!!! :lol:

[Steve Lux]

I dunno about an army, but I've got another 100+/day I could squeeze out, but I'm trying to get the stored up WU's from other projects done first. Likely I'll be putting my son's 4800+ on Pi tomorrow, and if my 3800+ is any reference I should be able to pump out at least 70/day with it. And I may just upload the 500 D2OL WU's I have crunched on one of my USB sticks and just dump the remainder to borg another P4 for Pi at work.

[gatekeeper53]

A 4800+ will pump out 95 to 100 a day Steve. I have a 3800+ comming thursday that will only run stripped down windows and PI Seg.

[gatekeeper53]

Just,

I think I mentioned in the early going that if people got to racing your 2 year project would be severly shortened. I'm pretty sure the race is on. We could finish this up by the end of May.

[spikey_richie]

My 3400+ is pumping out like 35-40 a day :(

[gatekeeper53]

Beats the heck out of a 2200+ I have that get 6 to 9 a day. But Hey it's 6 or 8 extra.

[mitchellds]

yep, my 3800 is happily doing 86 per day.

[PcManiac]

It looks like my:
Turion is doing 26 a day,
3700+ is only at 28 a day ... gotta get my bro off those games :icon_twisted:
my server will be back up there pretty quick, maybe another 25ish a day I hope ...

I just figured something out that I should have done a long time ago.... right now one of the lab rooms at my school is pretty much sitting empty ... therefore, today, I left my hard drive in a 3.2 GHz computer with 1.5GB ram :D
I'll just keep it there overnight each day!

[Big Whiskey]

gamer, say hello to the #1 Canadian...:icon_mrgreen:

For now :icon_twisted:

:icon_razz:

6 cores added
2 X2 4200+
1 A64 3200+
1 XP 2800+

My farm has been down for a week now after brownout I had here
it was awfully quiet around here
and rather cool too :5cold:

I going to rearrange the farm so things will be going up and down, thats why I left it down.

now that I have had a chance to boot them one at a time all I can say is
NO MORE 80mm FANS
even with speed controllers they're bloody noisy

anyways, onwards and upwards

Cheers
Big Whiskey

[Bender10]

Thanks Big Whiskey,
Glad to hear from you, and that your equipment (and you heh heh), survived the brown-out.

I'm with you on the 80mm fans. My basement sounds like race week at daytona!!

Cheers,
Bender10

[vaughan]

Hiya Big Whiskey :3dblob3:

Good to see you crunching again. I've found the 120mm fans are a big improvement from an increased airflow and a decreased noise aspect.

Those brownouts sure can be nasty hey :icon_biggrin:

[Ototero]

Congrats to Blueberry Pi, they've passed 100,000.

Welcome Big Whiskey, your power is much appreciated.

I'm gonna borg a couple of work machines next week, little do they know :icon_twisted:

[Bender10]

This should solve my cooling problems (link has limited lifespan..). :icon_wink:

http://www.woot.com/

[gatekeeper53]

Great to hear your back BW!!! Glad you got things worked out with the pharm and yea the 80's didn't only suck because of disco. That's what 80 mm fans remind me of, disco was really terrible noise.

[gatekeeper53]

Ok people we finished 1018 points behind BB Pi yesterday and that's 20 cores we need just to finish even. I have a 3800+ with 2 cores comming up thursday but that will still leave us 18 short. Any ideas?

[AMDave]

Mt family got me one of these for Christmas
http://www.powerware.com/UPS/3105_UPS.asp?CC=1
I have been a very happy chappy since then
All my brownout and spike troubles went away
I can vouch for this being a terrific unit, although I will upgrade to a higher power unit later on. The AMD server and other machines work fine but the Int*l Presc*tt overloads it as soon as it fires up even when it is the only machine plugged in.

I haven't tried the wider fans yet I have to admit. Something to look forward to.

[Bender10]

Brown-outs is the biggest reason I went to using ups's. I picked up a pair of apc 1400's at a ham radio flea market for cheep (they needed batteries). I did a little smurfing on the net and slowly bought what I needed to get them populated.

Right now I have 6 confusers on each. I also have 3-4 other small ups's for the other confusers.

I am working on linking all the confusers to the 'smart ups' output, to allow auto shutdown prior to ups battery drain.

[Big Whiskey]

Thank guys

added core #7 Semphie 3100+

[Beerknurd]

Thanks BW!!!!

[Nflight]

Ok people we finished 1018 points behind BB Pi yesterday and that's 20 cores we need just to finish even. I have a 3800+ with 2 cores coming up Thursday but that will still leave us 18 short. Any ideas?

Well, I have been doing some talking to the elite squad of Covert fighters, and I hear they are away on a mission this week. Seems they will only be able to join us by this weekend. Since I am only talking to the "General", I am not sure how many will actually be joining us for the long haul. You know the man in charge never really tells you when your surrounded, he just reminds you that your not alone, and that help is on the way! :blob3:

Keep your chin up Gatekeeper53

[gatekeeper53]

At this point I don't care if it's 11 dogs a cat and 9 hampsters, if they have computers they are more then welcome lol

[Beerknurd]

I am going to go look at the local Puter Store in about 30 minutes.. I am a processor short of a new system. The CompUSA right by my house is closing and everything is 30% off. I'll see what I can do....

Depends on the sale going but I may have 2.... Crosses fingers...

[NVM]

For now :icon_twisted:

:icon_razz:

6 cores added
2 X2 4200+
1 A64 3200+
1 XP 2800+

My farm has been down for a week now after brownout I had here
it was awfully quiet around here
and rather cool too :5cold:

I going to rearrange the farm so things will be going up and down, thats why I left it down.

now that I have had a chance to boot them one at a time all I can say is
NO MORE 80mm FANS
even with speed controllers they're bloody noisy

anyways, onwards and upwards

Cheers
Big Whiskey

i knew that would get you...:icon_razz:

[mitchellds]

I just bought a pair of Opteron 2216 cpus to build a four core system. Now I'm in search of a decent socket F motherboard and memory. Hopefully within a week, I'll have this up and running.

[Beerknurd]

Well i'm off to the store... Wish me luck!!!!

[gatekeeper53]

http://www.tyan.com/product_board_detail.aspx?pid=163

This one looks real good to me and PCNation has it in stock.


http://www.pcnation.com/web/details.asp?affid=304&item=L73156

[jmblazek]

Here are some stats:

30% of the total workspace has been completed.

TBP is only 12,000 uploads behind us. Thank goodness we have the beta points.

In the last 28 days they have almost doubled our output (100,530 to 51,515).
In the last 28 days, both teams have crunched 65% of the WU's. Overall, both teams have crunched 45%.

Using the new updated 65% of total WU's, we need to garner 50.1% of 1,040,287.3 WU's which is ~521,183. We currently have 112,787 so that leaves ~408,396 to go. At 5,000/day that leaves ~82 days (EDIT: with yesterday's overall rate, there's only ~79 days left for the entire project). TBP is currently 18.35 days behind us.

At 10,000/day we are ~41 days away from guaranteeing first place.
15,000/day is ~27 days
20,000/day is ~21 days

Holding on to first has just become much more difficult. Instead of backing down, TBP continues to push on and increase their output. Fortunately for us, most of our original PI members remain committed. Also, a few more of our top 50 are participating. Many thanks to EVERYONE!!!

Good News...this is still a defensive effort on our part. We have yet to go on the offensive. In reserve we still have over 1000+ cores just in our top 50 that we can pull from. That's 50,000/day additional WU's we can do. So, should the time come when we "really" need to go on the offensive, we'll be ready.

What would be nice is to have that additional 20 cores so we can just stay even with TBP. That way it won't be necessary to go on the offensive and we can keep the bulk of our power elsewhere.

Keep up the good work everyone!

[Ototero]

I'd like to see the 1000 cores come on stream now.
After that maybe Blueberry will back off. But then again, they might ramp it up some more.
Oh well. This is all good fun.

[jmblazek]

Hmmmm...if our 1000+ core reserve comes on line now and TBP ramps up to match it, there'd only be 10 days left in this project. :)

[Beerknurd]

Ok, that was the biggest waste of time and gas... Hardware was 5% off. That doesn't even cover the tax. Just for giggles I looked at the OEM computers... Their "BIG BLOWOUT SPECIAL" "THIS IS THE LAST UNIT IN STOCK!!!! (Floor model) They had a 4200+ with 1GB of RAM $620.00. :lol:

I asked the guy if they were going to go any lower, he said definitely not. Any remaining merchandise after close will be shipped to other stores. I am super disappointed.... :(

[mitchellds]

Thats a very good writeup, but I'm curios about the "Good New" section. Where are the 1000+ cores that you refer to? If they have not yet already been committed, how can you say that they could be commited and are held in reserve?

I'm of the opinion that we should throw everything we have at it now, to chew up the rest of the available wu's instead of holding things in reserve.

[spikey_richie]

Ok, that was the biggest waste of time and gas... Hardware was 5% off. That doesn't even cover the tax. Just for giggles I looked at the OEM computers... Their "BIG BLOWOUT SPECIAL" "THIS IS THE LAST UNIT IN STOCK!!!! (Floor model) They had a 4200+ with 1GB of RAM $620.00. :lol:

I asked the guy if they were going to go any lower, he said definitely not. Any remaining merchandise after close will be shipped to other stores. I am super disappointed.... :(

Are CompUSA going under? The store near me in San Bernadino closes this week too.

[gatekeeper53]

We had one close in St. Louis a month ago. From what I saw when I was in there the prices were out of sight and their for sale systems were terrible. The only thing I ever bought there was a tube of Arctic Silver 5.

[Beerknurd]

I think most of the stores are closing. Their prices are horrible. Even their closeout prices are crap... :lol:

Guess they won't be getting any of my money... I guess I'll just keep on saving for that 6000+ chip or a Intel Quad Core....

[Bender10]

I'll have an X2 4800 online today...that just leaves 16 more cores to break even. :icon_mrgreen:

[Steve Lux]

Thats a very good writeup, but I'm curios about the "Good New" section. Where are the 1000+ cores that you refer to? If they have not yet already been committed, how can you say that they could be commited and are held in reserve?

I'm of the opinion that we should throw everything we have at it now, to chew up the rest of the available wu's instead of holding things in reserve.


No kidding. I was under the impression that the team needed all the help it could get, so I've been pulling cores from projects I consider far more important to humanity (D2OL and Proteins) to help the team lock in a first place. I've been taking the risk of catching hell at work for this by borging other people's work computers. While I've seen some heavy hitters on the AMD team who are still crunching other projects I figure that is their choice, but if I'm not really needed on the Pi Segment project because some members have some massive reserve of cores I'd be more than happy to move my equipment back to the important projects.

Despite what the liberal media would have everyone think, some of us know the difference between "want" and "need". Now, do you "want" help, or, do you "need" help?

[gatekeeper53]

I have no idea where these 1000 cores are but I'd sure like to see a few of them.

[leavitron]

I'd like to see the 1000 cores come on stream now.
After that maybe Blueberry will back off. But then again, they might ramp it up some more.
Oh well. This is all good fun.

I'm already working on our next ramp-up. I've recruited another half-dozen new PI eaters and a couple of those are putting out over 200 WUs per day to start. We're now at over 6000 WUs per day total.

The real question, gentleman, is how long you can keep this up? Terry just informed me that Jianan is wanting to extend the project to the 2-year length. If that happens, how long can you afford to keep yourselves focused on PI Segment and doing less elsewhere? We have concerted efforts going to take or keep 1st place in several projects at the same time. I'm just the most vocal because we have a long haul to overtake you.

Another thing to think about is the poor PI Segment server. We're working the tail off the poor thing. Can it handle the load, and a potential 50% or greater increase?

Yes, this all in good fun. :icon_mrgreen:

[Evil-Dragon]

For that I just abandoned all my other work on BOINC and dumped all my machines on Pi Segment :)

[vaughan]

Keep going guys. We are pulling well as a team. :icon_neutral:

Don't give up when the going gets tough. :icon_wink:

Rally your friends and relatives to the team's cause.

We can remain world #1 in Pi Segment if we maintain our resolve and add a cpu here or there :icon_lol:

[mitchellds]

yep, heres a compusa store closing list.

http://www.compusa.com/locations/closing_stores.asp

[PcManiac]

That is crazy! are there going to be and stores left??? :icon_neutral:


Keep going guys. We are pulling well as a team. :icon_neutral:

Don't give up when the going gets tough. :icon_wink:

Rally your friends and relatives to the team's cause.

We can remain world #1 in Pi Segment if we maintain our resolve and add a cpu here or there :icon_lol:

I am working as hard as I can... it is hard, because it is 59 Vs. 84!

[leavitron]

it is hard, because it is 59 Vs. 84!

That's not an entirely accurate measurement. Here is what counts:

TBP:
Metrics Today
Top User :shy24 - 584
Users Returning Work : 52/84 (61.90%)
Points per user yesterday : 113
Users going up : 35
Users going down : 39
Users in top 100 : 21
Users in top 50 : 8

TAU:
Metrics Today
Top User :vaughan - 469
Users Returning Work : 39/60 (65.00%)
Points per user yesterday : 122
Users going up : 22
Users going down : 28
Users in top 100 : 20
Users in top 50 : 12

You guys outweigh us in the critical areas - higher percentage returning work, higher average WU/day, more users who have more points already.

Did I mention that we're up to almost 6500 WU/day now? :icon_twisted:

[Steve Lux]

Got my son's 4800+ on Pi now. Also putting his dual core Pentium laptop on Pi. Should be able to squeeze out another 125 or so out of the two of them. After I've downloaded the D2OL ram stick from work I'll be borging another P4 tomorrow on Pi. I'm expecting an added 160 - 170 wu's per day above the 105 or so I have been doing. I may be able to borg a 3rd P4 from work for another 35 or so a day - I'll be looking into it.

[Opteron]

I should have 2 more machines on this by weeks end...

[Evil-Dragon]

I hope TBP plan to stay on this one for a year if they get 1st place because if it's one thing i know it's that AMD Users will carry on and reclaim the 1st position. Hope you have a lot of dedicated members, if not send them over here :)

[gatekeeper53]

I'll tell you guys what this kind of output is amazing and it just blows me away the work some of the people here are putting into this. Thank You everyone for all the time and effort!!

[Beerknurd]

I wish I had more to give....

[gatekeeper53]

I hope TBP plan to stay on this one for a year if they get 1st place because if it's one thing i know it's that AMD Users will carry on and reclaim the 1st position. Hope you have a lot of dedicated members, if not send them over here :)


I've been running this for 4 months and plan to stay to the end. By the end of April I'll have the shed built and from 6 to 10 more dual cores up and running. That should be some decent output, I just wish I had the room to build them now. One or two is all I can fit in here and expect the little lady not to leave or throw me out. lol

[Nflight]

I know this is rather outrageous, But I am going to try a little something and borg someone's machine while they are at work, now I will only be able to run the machine for about 5 hours, 5 days a week, but hey it is better then nothing. If I get caught I should be able to get myself out of trouble because they left me with the key to their house to let the dog out for Pete's Sake.
That is all the power I can figure out at this time, if I win the lottery I will be purchasing a warehouse and setting up every system I can get my hands on!:-(

[Steve Lux]

Hm... 798 registered members on this team but only 60 of that 798 registered on Pi Segment. Looks to me like a significant amount of untapped capacity - even if only 10% were actively crunching on Pi Segment we could maintain our lead.

[Nflight]

Maybe some of us in our free time should pm everyone who is not participating in the PI Segment Challenge and see if we can get them to aid in our effort? I can do some of this on Saturday, but between then and now I am booked beyond my eyeballs in work.

I see PoorBoy has just joined our Team on PI Segment, Alright PoorBoy ! :blob3: :blob3: :blob3:

[vaughan]

I hope TBP plan to stay on this one for a year if they get 1st place because if it's one thing i know it's that AMD Users will carry on and reclaim the 1st position. Hope you have a lot of dedicated members, if not send them over here :)

Very true. Like we did in BOINC Riesel Sieve :)

[mitchellds]

Poorboy,

Excellent!! Thanks for joining us !! I know you'll be of great help!

[mitchellds]

Hey Vaughn,

I see you've stepped up your output to nearly 600 now. Excellent !!

I had to overclock and couple hundred MHZ more just to stay ahead of you by a couple.

CRUNCH On !!

[mitchellds]

oops, sorry about the name typo......

[Doomeva]

That's because Dad borged my X2 4600. :icon_twisted::icon_twisted::icon_twisted:

Just have to work on him to get that PS3 now. :icon_wink:

[vaughan]

Hey Vaughn,

I see you've stepped up your output to nearly 600 now. Excellent !!

I had to overclock and couple hundred MHZ more just to stay ahead of you by a couple.

CRUNCH On !!
Focus :icon_lol:

Now if I could get my old laptop to get past Initialising in Pi Segment I'd have another 2.66GHz running Pi. JUST said to delete the config.ini file and re-start but it didn't fix it.

I have had it on Tanpaku duty for the last day or so.

[Beerknurd]

That's because Dad borged my X2 4600. :icon_twisted::icon_twisted::icon_twisted:

Just have to work on him to get that PS3 now. :icon_wink:


Yea Vaughan... Buy the kid a PS3.... Sheesh... :icon_mrgreen:

[AMDave]

I'll tell you guys what this kind of output is amazing and it just blows me away the work some of the people here are putting into this. Thank You everyone for all the time and effort!!

Aye. The cause is JUST.

lol. I have been waiting all day to post that. :)

[Bender10]

Has anyone herd from BigZ? He's missing all the fun.

Hey, Beerknurd. I didn't mean to roll by you without saying "Hi". I'm in and out of the site so quick sometimes I forget to stop and drop a message.

I got a new X2 4800 yesterday, But I think the mobo is bad. I'll work on it more tonight. Anything to avoid RMA Hell.

Go team Go. Whoo Hoo this is fun!!! :icon_thumright:

[NVM]

Has anyone herd from BigZ?


i just passed him. not good. :rolleyes:

[Evil-Dragon]

Another core added.

[Steve Lux]

Vaughan, Go into your task manager and "end Process" (Windows) all instances of Pi Segment Core and GUI, then try re-starting the GUI. If there is more than one instance of each it will hang. I've had to do this a few times.

BTW, this is all I have access to. Everything I can beg, borrow or Borg is running Pi Segment.

[Bender10]

I was sitting down to a meal of Penne and meataballs, and started to smurf around.

Lagu passed the 7,500 mark, WooHoo, :icon_mrgreen: Nice going, don't slow down here we come.

Here comes Big Whiskey, Steve Lux, Strongbow, DMMC NorthVanMike and Skuzz. And everyone else racking up points for the team!!!

Thanks
Way to pull together.

It's the level of teamwork around here that makes this so fun!!
:icon_thumright:

[leavitron]

It's the level of teamwork around here that makes this so fun!!

I thought it was the little taunts by myself. :-(

Hey, Terry's doing it in our thread, too!

You guys are up to 5400 WU/day. Nice ramp-up! We've plateau'd again around 6900. Guess I'm going to have to go raid #distributed.

[Bender10]

Nope, You're confusing Fun with Funny.

WE are having Fun.

YOU Funny man.

[Nflight]

That Post was awesome Bender10.. Mr. Slippery (aka reference to the soap bar) has got to be one heck of a salesman to bring on so many willing people and keep them working diligently for his cause. I imagine his ego getting trampled by his lack of funds (or bars of soap) to pay all these people to work so hard for him and his band of Team Mates.

I have nothing against the real Blueberries, I use them on my Cereal everyday for Breakfast, one blueberry in my mouth being chewed up and swallowed now has more meaning then ever.

[Evil-Dragon]

It's funny how we AMD Users don't have to go running to the begging bowl for more raspberries (sorry blueberries..) everytime we need a push in a project. If there's one thing i know about begging is it's short lived, so enjoy your small push while it lasts.

Anyway i'm off to the IRC Networks to warn them about this.

[leavitron]

I know I'm funny, but looks aren't everything...

I'll shut up now. :icon_redface:

[DarkStar]

It's funny how we AMD Users don't have to go running to the begging bowl for more raspberries (sorry blueberries..) everytime we need a push in a project.
Raspberries, blueberries ... just don't overlook the Teaberries! Here, have some gum ...


http://members.arstechnica.com/x/dark_star/teaberry_2.jpg

[Big Whiskey]

gotta love new projects
first day was in top 200
by about fifth I hope to be top 100

I can't believe the output I'm getting from my little farm

the real interesting part is one of Semphie 3100+ is just smokin' my Barton 2800+ by 3 to 1 and is almost even with my A64 3200+

usually my Barton doesn't even glance sideways and go "oh your here too" when running the same project with my Semphrons

this is a good project for my Semphies(if in the budget I might upgrade the other ones this weekend)

So we just need like 40 Semphies and we'll be have Blueberry Pi for a snack

mmmmmm...Blueberry pie

I see Poorboy got his game going

@NVM
I was joking, I thought it would take awhile to catch you if I did at all, but now I see how much output I have, get your bacon ready to be fried. eh!

good work everyone, I see we got another new member from China, cool
AMD Users DC'ing for the World

Cheers
Big Whiskey

[PoorBoy]

I don't know how long I'll stay with this Project as it's the first DC Project I've ever run. I know it's going to cost me in the BOINC Project's by running this but I'll help out for awhile anyway. I'm going to keep a close eye on Nano Hive & once we start to get threatened there I'll go back there, right now there are several Teams that are not that far behind us & with their output it will only take a week or so to catch us.

I didn't get really ramped up to PI Segment until late yesterday, then I found out this morning I had my 2'nd fastest PC set to not download any more work so it basically sat there for the last 8 hr's. Probably lost about 40 WU's as it's capable of 5+ WU's an hour ... :icon_redface:

[gatekeeper53]

PB like Burce Willis said; "Damn glad to see ya boy" When we get a lead on these guys I hear Tanpaku is in trouble and I'll have to head there for a bit but as soon as it's up a little I'll be over to Nano to give you a hand to make up some for you helping here. Thanks for comming.

[Bender10]

Hey PoorBoy,
Thanks for helping out. Stay as long as you can. I've been watching Nano too. That's the project that got me started BOINCing...

Thanks,
Bender

[mitchellds]

Yep, we're down to a 35k wu lead over 2nd place in Tanpaku now. We're just days away from losing our 1st place there. The second place team is outputting 9.4k wu's a day, we're doing 3.4k. Not good.

[Evil-Dragon]

Not to worry, we'll get it back if we lose it.

[gatekeeper53]

Let's kick these ole boys to the curb real bad first and then head over there while they bleed blueberry blue.