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BC
07-19-2004, 10:11 AM
FYI: 19-Jul-2004

I'm sure you've all seen Charmm WUs in your work lists.

Some error out with exit code -136. This has been reported.

That is very very convoluted code and tough to work on, but
getting better... Most of the previously failed WUs now run.


Just thought I would let you all know.

Chuck

em99010pepe
07-19-2004, 10:25 AM
BC,

I run the client from the Startup menu of Windows and I want it to be minimized when it starts... How do I do that?

pepe

BC
07-19-2004, 10:33 AM
BC,

I run the client from the Startup menu of Windows and I want it to be minimized when it starts... How do I do that?

pepe

In the Startup menu list, right mouse click on the item (should be listed
as BOINC)... Click 'properties', Look at the 'Run:' option... it should
say 'window' and have a pull down. Select 'minimized' from the list.
click 'OK'. It will now start with the window minimized

Please let me know if that works on your Win/98... it does on my XP and
I think it's good for all Windows versions.

Chuck

em99010pepe
07-19-2004, 10:49 AM
I want to minimize it to tray not in a window.
Now i'm having problems with predictor, i'm going to restart the computer.

em99010pepe
07-19-2004, 10:55 AM
This is what happens:

If i choose to run the program in a minimized window i get at startup two windows, one from mfold****( a dos window) and one from Predictor (the GUI).
The problem is that i can't see the GUI, it stalls!

BC
07-19-2004, 10:59 AM
This is what happens:

If i choose to run the program in a minimized window i get at startup two windows, one from mfold****( a dos window) and one from Predictor (the GUI).
The problem is that i can't see the GUI, it stalls!

Ok, That is a BOINC GUI bug. Would you like to submit it on the Predictor page or should I ? I am sure one of the BOINC Alpha team members has a work around / better answer.

em99010pepe
07-19-2004, 11:10 AM
The dos window is normal to Win9x but the other one is not. It should start with a tray icon just like DNET.


If you want you can tell to BOINC Alpha team members.

BC
07-19-2004, 11:24 AM
The dos window is normal to Win9x but the other one is not. It should start with a tray icon just like DNET.


If you want you can tell to BOINC Alpha team members.


Ok, will do. I wish you could run as a service... it would be SO much easier. the CLI is faster too.


Please PM me as a reminder... it's about bedtime here (4:20am)

thanks

em99010pepe
07-19-2004, 11:50 AM
Ok, will do. I wish you could run as a service... it would be SO much easier. the CLI is faster too.


How do you run Predictor as a service/cli under Win ME?

BC
07-19-2004, 12:02 PM
Ok, will do. I wish you could run as a service... it would be SO much easier. the CLI is faster too.


How do you run Predictor as a service/cli under Win ME?


I am not sure it will install because I don't think enough of the NT
kernel is there in Win/ME yet...... but it's worth a try.


Get into the directory that Predictor/BOINC is in.

Program boinc_cli.exe should be there.


from a command shell window.... type

boinc_cli -install (to install as a service)

boinc_cli -uninstall (to uninstall as a service)



If it installs.. you can start, stop, autostart from the control panel - services.
It will be listed under BOINC.

You must start it manually the first time... (Set to Automatic, hit apply,
then hit 'start', then hit ok)

All messages (output) will be in the system 'application' log (event viewer)
(set it to 'overwrite as needed' using it's own prperties)

DO NOT run the GUI after that...... the GUI and CLI will collide .

use BOINCView in 'FILE' mode. http://boincview.amanheis.de
(it's still beta and you WILL have to turn off the RPC stuff every time you
start Boinc View)... but it (as a pair) runs better than the GUI..



REMEBER, this will all be replaced shortly by the ****REAL****
working 4.00 BOINC which has the GUI and CLI working correctly.

BOINC View will no longer be needed.

You may wish to wait a few days.... Version 4.0 is in test now.

Chuck

em99010pepe
07-19-2004, 12:25 PM
Get into the directory that Predictor/BOINC is in.

Program boinc_cli.exe should be there.


from a command shell window.... type

boinc_cli -install (to install as a service)

boinc_cli -uninstall (to uninstall as a service)


Chuck

It failed under Win Me. I get this message:

"OpenSCmanager failed - This function is not supported on this system. (0x78)"

BC
07-20-2004, 06:06 AM
Get into the directory that Predictor/BOINC is in.

Program boinc_cli.exe should be there.


from a command shell window.... type

boinc_cli -install (to install as a service)

boinc_cli -uninstall (to uninstall as a service)


Chuck

It failed under Win Me. I get this message:

"OpenSCmanager failed - This function is not supported on this system. (0x78)"

Drats,
I had hoped there was enough of the NT kernel in Win/ME to support
the service. Guess not. I will double check in the sources for
Boinc/CC and see if it is in the 4.00 release to support that under Win/me.
They are ironing out the 'glitches' now for 4.00 (aka "m2").

Chuck

Ototero
07-20-2004, 06:54 AM
These are the available parameters for boinc_cli.exe :-

-version................................show version info
-install..................................install boinc as a Windows Service
-uninstall...............................uninstall boinc as a Windows Service
-exit_when_idle.....................get/process/report work, then exit
-show_projects......................show attached projects
-return_results_immediately...contact server when have results
-detach_project URL...............detach from a project
-reset_project URL.................reset (clear) a project
-attach_project......................attach to project (will prompt URL, acct key)
-update_prefs URL.................contact a project to update preferences
-run_cpu_benchmarks............run the CPU benchmarks
-check_all_logins...................check input from remote users
-allow_remote_gui_rpc...........allow remote GUI RPC connections

Can't tell if you can enter more than 1 parameter at a time though.

BC
07-20-2004, 07:31 AM
These are the available parameters for boinc_cli.exe :-

-version................................show version info
-install..................................install boinc as a Windows Service
-uninstall...............................uninstall boinc as a Windows Service
-exit_when_idle.....................get/process/report work, then exit
-show_projects......................show attached projects
-return_results_immediately...contact server when have results
-detach_project URL...............detach from a project
-reset_project URL.................reset (clear) a project
-attach_project......................attach to project (will prompt URL, acct key)
-update_prefs URL.................contact a project to update preferences
-run_cpu_benchmarks............run the CPU benchmarks
-check_all_logins...................check input from remote users
-allow_remote_gui_rpc...........allow remote GUI RPC connections

Can't tell if you can enter more than 1 parameter at a time though.

Thanks Stu... that is as I thought and found in what I think is the final 3.20 frozen code. This being said. We can specify only 1 parameter at a time in 3.20 unless we fix the code ourselves.


Since version 4.0 is about to come out and we *ARE* an AMD group, What do you say to us creating an 'AMD compilation optimized' executable without modifying the source code? I can list all kinds of optimizations I know GCC/G++ is capable of that are not done because of the Intel/AMD differences in math operations. However, since Predictor runs a homogeneous scheduler/dispatcher, as long as we return valid results why can't we have our own? I know of a user who is running WinXP 64 and has his own re-coded and re-compiled 64 bit version that is practically unbeatable.

Comments? Anyone???

Chuck

em99010pepe
07-20-2004, 07:37 AM
Ototero,

Thanks for that list.

BC, it is a good idea.

Right now i'm making a test. I copied the entire boinc folder to my 2200+ to see if it is possible to "sneak-internet".


Look at my new signature!

Ototero
07-20-2004, 07:42 AM
Would that be a 64bit AND a 32bit version???

Us poor people are only running lowly AMDs :lol:

In W98, can the cli version be run in a dos box? Because that is what I think I have just done.