Too little memory or space

[Lagu]

I should run Cocmology@Home but it is impossible on my AMD64. Their server tells me I have too little memory and need an additional 199 MB. In the preferences, I have chosen 20 GB overall and 50 % usage of the disc. However, when I checked the “Message� it stands the preferences limit disk usage is to 0,47 GB. I have tried change but failed. I have 213 GB free on my Intel and 70 GB on my AMD. If I choose to 100 GB so is it more than what AMD has.

What is wrong? Can anyone give me a advice how I can get rid of that message and got 0,47 to change to a higher level? :(

[LeBo]

How much RAM memory do you have in the machine. Cosmology is a memory hog...
What OS are you running XP or Vista

[Lagu]

I GB of memory :)

[LeBo]

What OS are you running..

[Lagu]

WIN XP :icon_wink:

[LeBo]

That should be enough RAM then, With my computer, each client being run uses about 100-140 meg of RAM

[Lagu]

Yes it is strange. Will try lather and see if I can figure out what is going on. Nice avatar LeBo:)

[LeBo]

Yes it is strange. Will try lather and see if I can figure out what is going on. Nice avatar LeBo:)

Thanks Lagu

[gatekeeper53]

You might go into general prefrences and up the % of page file, % of mem when in use and % of mem when not in use. It might help.

[Lagu]

2007-11-20 11:35:17||Starting BOINC client version 5.10.28 for windows_intelx86
2007-11-20 11:35:17||log flags: task, file_xfer, sched_ops
2007-11-20 11:35:17||Libraries: libcurl/7.17.0 OpenSSL/0.9.8e zlib/1.2.3
2007-11-20 11:35:17||Data directory: C:\Program\BOINC
2007-11-20 11:35:17||Processor: 1 AuthenticAMD AMD Athlon(tm) 64 Processor 3200+ [x86 Family 15 Model 12 Stepping 0]
2007-11-20 11:35:17||Processor features: fpu tsc pae nx sse sse2 3dnow mmx
2007-11-20 11:35:17||OS: Microsoft Windows XP: Home Edition, Service Pack 2, (05.01.2600.00)
2007-11-20 11:35:17||Memory: 1023.48 MB physical, 2.40 GB virtual
2007-11-20 11:35:17||Disk: 76.32 GB total, 70.17 GB free
2007-11-20 11:35:17||Local time is UTC +1 hours
2007-11-20 11:35:17|proteins@home|URL: http://biology.polytechnique.fr/proteinsathome/; Computer ID: 28349; location: home; project prefs: default
2007-11-20 11:35:17|rosetta@home|URL: http://boinc.bakerlab.org/rosetta/; Computer ID: 669425; location: home; project prefs: default
2007-11-20 11:35:17|Riesel Sieve Project|URL: http://boinc.rieselsieve.com/; Computer ID: 16098; location: home; project prefs: home
2007-11-20 11:35:17|Spinhenge@home|URL: http://spin.fh-bielefeld.de/; Computer ID: 47199; location: home; project prefs: default
2007-11-20 11:35:17|Cosmology@Home|URL: http://www.cosmologyathome.org/; Computer ID: 8875; location: (none); project prefs: default
2007-11-20 11:35:17|NanoHive@Home|URL: http://www.nanohive-1.org/atHome/; Computer ID: 10545; location: (none); project prefs: default
2007-11-20 11:35:17|PrimeGrid|URL: http://www.primegrid.com/; Computer ID: 32522; location: home; project prefs: default
2007-11-20 11:35:17|World Community Grid|URL: http://www.worldcommunitygrid.org/; Computer ID: 185335; location: (none); project prefs: default
2007-11-20 11:35:17|Zivis|URL: http://zivis.bifi.unizar.es/; Computer ID: 2642; location: (none); project prefs: default
2007-11-20 11:35:17||General prefs: from Cosmology@Home (last modified 20-Nov-2007 11:17:21)
2007-11-20 11:35:17||Host location: none
2007-11-20 11:35:17||General prefs: using your defaults
2007-11-20 11:35:17||Reading preferences override file
2007-11-20 11:35:17||Preferences limit memory usage when active to 972.31MB
2007-11-20 11:35:17||Preferences limit memory usage when idle to 1023.48MB
2007-11-20 11:35:17||Preferences limit disk usage to 0.47GB
2007-11-20 11:35:52|Cosmology@Home|Sending scheduler request: Requested by user. Requesting 64800 seconds of work, reporting 0 completed tasks
2007-11-20 11:35:57|Cosmology@Home|Scheduler request succeeded: got 0 new tasks
2007-11-20 11:35:57|Cosmology@Home|Message from server: No work sent
2007-11-20 11:35:57|Cosmology@Home|Message from server: There was work but you don't have enough disk space allocated.
2007-11-20 11:35:57|Cosmology@Home|Message from server: An additional 212 MB is needed.
2007-11-20 12:04:50|Cosmology@Home|Message from server: There was work but you don't have enough disk space allocated.
2007-11-20 12:04:50|Cosmology@Home|Message from server: An additional 211 MB is needed.
2007-11-20 12:04:52|Cosmology@Home|Started download of cosmo_icon.png
2007-11-20 12:04:52|Cosmology@Home|Started download of cosmo_slide_01.png
2007-11-20 12:04:54|Cosmology@Home|Finished download of cosmo_icon.png
2007-11-20 12:04:54|Cosmology@Home|Finished download of cosmo_slide_01.png
2007-11-20 12:04:54|Cosmology@Home|Started download of cosmo_slide_02.png
2007-11-20 12:04:54|Cosmology@Home|Started download of cosmo_slide_03.png
2007-11-20 12:04:57|Cosmology@Home|Finished download of cosmo_slide_02.png
2007-11-20 12:04:57|Cosmology@Home|Finished download of cosmo_slide_03.png

I can´t understand why Cosmo dont work but Rosetta does.

My preferences: Disk and memory usage
Use at most 20 GB
Leave at most 20 GB
Use at most 75% of page file
Use at most 95% of memory when in use
Use at most 100% when not in use

Can the HDD have an issue because I have notised a block was wrong and I ran chkdsk. I seems as the data have only a small surface on the HDD and the rest is blocked.

Comments? Solutions?

[mitchellds]

Hey Lagu,
I think the default boinc setting are around 100GB of disk space as found in the boinc/options/preference/disk usage . Turn is way down to something more reasonable to your setup. I.e. 500-700mb

"When I first joined I had the same problem... My computer has 30gig of space, so it wouldn't download any work. Because the phrasing of the option is so confusing I kept on trying to add more space in the preference, wondering what sort of project would use 500gigs. Only when I turned it down to less than the ammount of free space I had on my HD did it start to work."

Now, if you take into consideration that 1)most people don\'t have a 100Gb of free space and 2)all that required messing around with the settings may distract and discourage new users and 3)at the end of the day Cosmo doesn't use near that much - one wonders why that setting doesn't have a default of say, a hundred meg only.

Anyhow, preferences may be defined for up to 4 specific \"locations\". When viewing your general preferences are there any preferences shows for any of the specific locations, school, work, home? And at the very top page of the messages in the BOINC messages tab, you will see two messages such as this:

11/20/2007 2:40:09 PM||Host location: none
11/20/2007 2:40:09 PM||General prefs: using your defaults

So your computer might think it is \"home\" and use preferences for \"home\", but the preferences you reported might be for \"default\".

You could have a corrupt .xml preference file also. You could remove boinc and re-add so a new .xml preference file is created . Just a idea.

[PoorBoy]

Below is how I set up my Disk and Memory Preferences for all the BOINC Projects and it has served me very well. Notice the Use at most Preference is set to 100 Gbytes, hardly any of my Hard Drives are actually 100 GB's, some are as small as 36 GB but I still get work.

I think the next 2 Preferences actually Over-ride the First one unless you do really have a 100 GB Hard Drive. Thats the only reason I can think of why I get work when my Drives aren't 100 GB's. Anyway you can try these settings and see if they work for you, if they don't then do as Mitchelld's says and try a setting smaller than what your Hard Drives really are ... Good Luck


Use at most = 100 Gbytes
Leave @ least = 0.001 Gbytes free
Use @ most = 90% of total disk space
Write to disk @ most every = 60 seconds
Use @ most = 90% of page file (swap space)
Use @ most 95% of memory when computer is in use
Use @ most 99% of memory when computer is not in use

[gatekeeper53]

Congrats Poorboy on hitting 3,000,000 that's a lot of crunching!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

[Lagu]

Thank you mitchellds and PoorBoy,

You are right. Most peoples have not 100 GB of free disc space. I have on my new Intel C2D because I not download any music’s or movies. I had chosen more space than I had on my AMD 64. I have 70 MB free and choose 100 GB, an impossible combination. Yes new users as for example not have a team and is forced experiment with Boinc preferences can end either with a solution by themselves or a fail. I agree they should have a default setting or there should be a written notice how much memory and space their WU really need.

I had 2 preferences, home and general as I think they had different settings. I have corrected that and at least I got work.:) I have changed “Use at most disk space� to 0.5 GB. However, I also removed Boinc and installed it again. I downloaded their newest Agent yesterday. It was a while since I ran Boinc so I have forgotten how to manage the preferences.

I do not like the fact all my computers as run Boinc change settings when I change my preferences. For example if I change my preferences by my AMD I should choose 1 core but if I make that my Intel gets I core too but should have 2. That mean I must choose 2 cores even if I only have 1. However, it works well yet.

I have copy our settings PoorBoy. Seems work:icon_thumright:. Their WU´s is huge, from 113-177 MB.

[PoorBoy]

Congrats Poorboy on hitting 3,000,000 that's a lot of crunching!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Thanks Terry, at least somebody bothered to notice ... :icon_rolleyes:

[vaughan]

Woot! PoorBoy I just noticed now.

Congratulations.

That is a mighty fine piece of crunching there. :)

[Lagu]

My apologies for not discover your exploit. I was too engaged on my own mess with Cosmo so I did not discover you had crossed the 3.000.000 barrier. I can tell you are a mush valuable member as always help our team hold a high spirit and avoid us decrease our productivity. A very good effort and well done PoorBoy.:icon_thumright: :wav:

[Lagu]

Yesterday I got Cosmo to work. When I checked Boinc agent earlier this morning 1 Wu was done. Then the old problem was there where their server told me it needs 212 MB more. I tried some more settings but to no vain. I decide to remove Boinc and reinstall it and after that, I got more work. Only one as I always did. I read in the forum how other members can receive a lot of WU’s at once. How can I do that? What should I write in the preferences? :)

[LeBo]

Go to network activity and put it to connect about 3 to 4 days with a 2 day buffer..

[Bender10]

Come on PoorBoy. We will all notice eventually...:icon_redface:

Congratulations!! :blob3::blob3::blob3:

[LeBo]

Come on PoorBoy. We will all notice eventually...:icon_redface:

Congratulations!! :blob3::blob3::blob3:
I notice Poorboy's contribution all the time. His quads are just awesome

[Lagu]

I am confused. Cosmos server is a notorious one. The server persists and tells my AMD 64, and AMD Athlon has too little space, and yet they have a disc at 80 and 40 GB respectively. Into my preferences, I have set as follow:
Leave at most 0,001 Gbytes free (This will be ignored and managed by Boinc I think.)
Use as most 90 % of total disk space
Use at most 95% of memory when computer is in use
Use at most 99% of memory when computer is not in use

The setting is more than enough. I have tried all possible settings but to no vain. It is no fun when I always have to mess around it. I think there must be a bug because when I click on “Statistic� Cosmology show I have 2.400 points but there is no graph only a dot. I have discovered if I quiet Cosmo, remove Boinc, (the latest version) then load it again, and attach Cosmo again I got 1 WU. As son that WU is finished their server tells me I need 212 MB additional space. Very strange

On my AMD64 I have 80 GB HDD and use lesser than 10 MB of it. Should there not be enough space? On the other hand, means “space� something other than that I believe.

The only computer as not have any problem is Intel. My Intel has a disk at 230 GB and use 14.3 GB. 213 GB is free.

I can say so much as I have never had such a problem since I began crunch different project. I was hoping help our team but I failed. If I only can use one of 3 computers so is it a very large failure for me.:icon_twisted: :(

[laurenu2]

Try to set your" Use as most 90 % of total disk space" To 50% or less
At 90% you would have to have 82 GiG free

Or so I believe good luck

[Frederic Brillouet]

Hello Lauren, how's it going? planning another dpad dump?

[laurenu2]

Hello Lauren, how's it going? planning another DPAD dump?
haha No not at this time But I might in Cosmo or miiky and I have been pushing Eon to Till the 1st of the year:icon_santa:
Might go back to DPAD after that.

But I must say I have had to shift a major potion of my network to Cosmo :BangHead:to keep up with this teams ever increasing output.
Good for You:wav: If you keep up this pace :icon_thumright:I will be forced to run a new DSL line to my warehouse and bring my remote site online to combat you.:qright5:
And that will cost me a lot of Money So why don't AMD just give up now:rofl:

It sure will save me a lot of time and money:icon_mrgreen:

Please look at my Sig for further information

Team JoKeR

[Frederic Brillouet]

haha No not at this time But I might in Cosmo or miiky and I have been pushing Eon to Till the 1st of the year:icon_santa:
Might go back to DPAD after that.

But I must say I have had to shift a major potion of my network to Cosmo :BangHead:to keep up with this teams ever increasing output.
Good for You:wav: If you keep up this pace :icon_thumright:I will be forced to run a new DSL line to my warehouse and bring my remote site online to combat you.:qright5:
And that will cost me a lot of Money So why don't AMD just give up now:rofl:

It sure will save me a lot of time and money:icon_mrgreen:

Please look at my Sig for further information

Team JoKeR
You could try and make us Lauren :icon_lol: Amazing output you're having :icon_thumright:

[laurenu2]

You could try and make us Lauren :icon_lol: Amazing output you're having :icon_thumright:
As you see I Am Trying my best But your 3 heavy hitters are kicking my A$$
Your are a bad a$$ team
Here is a good deal is you live near a Fry's AMD Quad 9500 (retail box ) W/motherboard
for 299.00
http://newspaperads.mercurynews.com/ROP/ads.aspx?adid=3953346&advid=32664&type=

Im going to get a dozen of them for that price we need some door prizes for our party
Oh ya 2 gig 6400 ran 29.00 after $40 rebate ((I hate rebates))

[LeBo]

Quiet impressive fire power you have there, Laurenu2:)

[laurenu2]

Quiet impressive fire power you have there, Laurenu2:)
Gee my wife said the same thing to me about a week ago:icon_twisted:__:rolleyes:

[Frederic Brillouet]

As you see I Am Trying my best But your 3 heavy hitters are kicking my A$$
Your are a bad a$$ team
Here is a good deal is you live near a Fry's AMD Quad 9500 (retail box ) W/motherboard
for 299.00
http://newspaperads.mercurynews.com/ROP/ads.aspx?adid=3953346&advid=32664&type=

Im going to get a dozen of them for that price we need some door prizes for our party
Oh ya 2 gig 6400 ran 29.00 after $40 rebate ((I hate rebates))
I wouldnt hasten such a large money donation, you should think it over first:icon_mrgreen: (lets say about 6-12 months?)

[LeBo]

Gee my wife said the same thing to me about a week ago:icon_twisted:__:rolleyes:
I hear you man... :icon_wink:

[laurenu2]

I wouldnt hasten such a large money donation, you should think it over first:icon_mrgreen: (lets say about 6-12 months?)
But The Free-DC X-mas Party is in a couple weeks.
I would hate to see the disappointment of all the members faces :-( if I did not get anything
:icon_santa:I think we gave out about $2,000.00 + in cash and computers last year:icon_santa:

[laurenu2]

Try to set your" Use as most 90 % of total disk space" To 50% or less
At 90% you would have to have 82 GiG free

Or so I believe good luck

Lagu Did that setting help with you with your AMD 64 getting work ?

[Frederic Brillouet]

But The Free-DC X-mas Party is in a couple weeks.
I would hate to see the disappointment of all the members faces :-( if I did not get anything
:icon_santa:I think we gave out about $2,000.00 + in cash and computers last year:icon_santa:
a couple of flash disks should be enough for christmas for you :icon_lol::icon_razz:

[Lagu]

Lagu Did that setting help with you with your AMD 64 getting work ?

No laurenu2, I tried your advice and other settings but to no vain. If I want a nev task am is forced remove Cosmo and attach to it again. But I only got 1 WU every time. But what as is strange is if there is a lack of 205 MB so next time it is 210 and 212. It seems be different lack of space. On my Intel C2D, Intel PII and AMD Athlon 5126EA there is no problem and yet Intel PII has a disk at 6 GB. The PII is a test and it is too slow. The benchmark gives
312 Floating points MIPS
506 Integer MIPS
So far this computer has use 71,41 CPU-seconds and crunched 72,250 %. I´m awaiting it will finich the task and then stop running Cosmo on it.

But to talk about my AMD64. I wounder why their server tells I have too little space and yet I have 70 GB free. I don´t understand why, if it is my disk as is bad or if it is their server as feel of my disk and missinterpret the information it gets.

I want to use AMD64 on Cosmo. It is a waste of time use it on Rosetta. The problem is a mystery and I have no clue how solve it. :icon_wink::icon_twisted:

[laurenu2]

312 Floating points MIPS
506 Integer MIPS


Way Way to Low
on my AMD64 3200 I get
2070 Floating points MIPS
3791 Integer MIPS

Are all drivers set right ?
Is the CPU over heating
How long has the system been online
Have you run spy wear or AV programs
Did you build the system or store bought

All of the above can pull down a systems performance

[laurenu2]

a couple of flash disks should be enough for christmas for you :icon_lol::icon_razz:

a couple of flash disks might be OK for a AMD User
But we are talking about A Free-DC members they expect the best:biggrin:

You left yourself open foe that one:lol:

[Frederic Brillouet]

a couple of flash disks might be OK for a AMD User
But we are talking about A Free-DC members they expect the best:biggrin:

You left yourself open foe that one:lol:
Watch out, you might become AMD Users' team joker if you kkeep on going like this:icon_lol:

[laurenu2]

Watch out, you might become AMD Users' team joker if you keep on going like this:icon_lol:

I try my best it is a dirty job but someone has to do it :)

Oh ya a update on AMD Quad 4
I could not resist
I just put one online today
They run real hot with the OME fan

on the AMD Q I get 14.11 points per Hr
on the Intel Q I get 15.81 points per Hr
thats 1.69 points per Hr per Core more with Intel

[Lagu]

Way Way to Low
on my AMD64 3200 I get
2070 Floating points MIPS
3791 Integer MIPS

Are all drivers set right ?
Is the CPU over heating
How long has the system been online
Have you run spy wear or AV programs
Did you build the system or store bought

All of the above can pull down a systems performance

It is my Intel PII (8 year old) as have way, way too low Benchmark not my AMD 64 as has
2191 Floating points MIPS
3825 Integer MIPS

Lagu:)

[laurenu2]

Oops Sorry I took it from this that it was a AMD 64


No But to talk about my AMD64. I wounder why their server tells I have too little space and yet I have 70 GB free. I don´t understand why, if it is my disk as is bad or if it is their server as feel of my disk and missinterpret the information it gets.

I want to use AMD64 on Cosmo. It is a waste of time use it on Rosetta. The problem is a mystery and I have no clue how solve it. :icon_wink::icon_twisted:

[Lagu]

Now my AMD64-problem is over. I turned to Cosmology’s forum and their moderators told me go into Boinc Ã* “Advancedâ€� Ã* “Preferencesâ€� and check the settings. They said I should clear the settings and try again and it worked. I have now over 9 GB instead for 0,47.

I did not know about the local settings as was in Boinc. What happen was the local settings overridden what I had choose in my account.

So now, I have 3 computers running that project. That is better than 2 or how?:)

[Bender10]

Good work Lagu!

I'm glad to hear you have worked out your problem.