Breakfree AMD

[Nflight]

http://breakfree.amd.com/en-us/default.aspx?si=1

I smell something ~ Anyone else see light at the end of the tunnel on this issue? :sad5:

[Lagu]

There is something fishy going around here. :icon_twisted:

[PoorBoy]

AMD's Lawsuit against Intel may have some Merit, I don't know nor care to know really as it's all a bunch off Legal Mumble Jumble anyway and you need to be a lawyer to really understand it all.

But all it looks like to me is the typical way of doing business in the good Ole USA, when you can't compete anymore and have a bunch of mundane products compared to the competition then you Sue. That way the bigger company settles just to get rid of the lawsuit and your company gets a quick infusion of cash that it desperately needs ... :icon_rolleyes:

[Danish Dynamite]

thanks for the link nflight made my day has been a long time coming and about time too

[vaughan]

I stopped reading when I read the bit from the New York guy who calls a CPU a computer processing unit instead of a central processing unit.

[Steve Lux]

Seems one of the main complaints is that Intel isn't charging their cutomers enough for their processors. Imagine that - Free Market competition is apparently a bad thing. If you make the hardware equivalent of an AOL buying Time Warner oops, you sue because you can't compete. On the other side if you're very successful and you make right decisions someone sues you because you are more efficient then they are and can sell your product for less. Just seems a bit hypocritical to me.

Now, on the AOL buying Time Warner fiasco I had purchased AOL stock because I could see them doing what Netflix does with the Warner movie inventory, before there was a Netflix. AOL dropped the ball and I lost thousands - they lost billions. I'm no longer in the business of supposing companies will achieve their potential with hostile takeovers. AMD could take back significant market share if their synergies with ATI work out, but I'm not betting any money on it.

When all is said and done, AMD has been good for Intel and for us. Our processors wouldn't have 1/10th their present capacity without that competition.

[PoorBoy]

When all is said and done, AMD has been good for Intel and for us. Our processors wouldn't have 1/10th their present capacity without that competition

I agree Steve & hope AMD can pull out of their recent dismal showing's because if they can it will be good for all around ... :)

[Jason1478963]

I dont think this is all recent activity. I think this stuff started before AMD even purchased ATI. I remember reading about Intel giving their customers a cheaper price on CPU if they did not offer the competitors CPU. I think Dell would be a good example of this. I believe Dell started offering AMD chips shortyly after the antitrust investigations. This kind of thing is what keeps me from buying Dell and Intel products. I do not believe Intel got to where it is today by playing by the book. As a consumer I want that choice to have choices. Would we even have 64bit processors yet if AMD was gone?

[Danish Dynamite]

from what i have read it goes much deeper then oem's and started around the time of athlons

[PoorBoy]

I dont think this is all recent activity. I think this stuff started before AMD even purchased ATI

That may be true, but I feel that by Buying ATI AMD didn't do themselves any favors. Someday it might pan out for them & work to their well being but in the shorter term I think it's killing them. Mainly for the reason it left them without enough money to properly develop the new CPU's their putting out.

[Danish Dynamite]

below is a quote for the AMD Antitrust Complaint Filed Against Intel In U.S. Federal District Court (PDF) (http://www.amd.com/us-en/assets/content_type/DownloadableAssets/AMD-Intel_Full_Complaint.pdf) on the 27th june 2005 @ 4:22 pm


• Intel has forced major customers into exclusive or near-exclusive deals;
• it has conditioned rebates, allowances and market development funding on customers’
agreement to severely limit or forego entirely purchases from AMD;
• it has established a system of discriminatory, retroactive, first-dollar rebates triggered by
purchases at such high levels as to have the practical and intended effect of denying
customers the freedom to purchase any significant volume of processors from AMD;
• it has threatened retaliation against customers introducing AMD computer platforms,
particularly in strategic market segments;
• it has established and enforced quotas among key retailers effectively requiring them to
stock overwhelmingly, if not exclusively, Intel-powered computers, thereby artificially
limiting consumer choice;
• it has forced PC makers and technology partners to boycott AMD product launches and
promotions;
• and it has abused its market power by forcing on the industry technical standards and
products which have as their central purpose the handicapping of AMD in the
marketplace.