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vaughan
01-29-2008, 10:24 AM
A new non-BOINC project joins our Mathematics section today. Of course AMD Users continues its proud tradition of finding and supporting new projects. Consequently we enter the team stakes in World 1st place. :)

Go AMD Users!


The project's url is:

http://www.elmath.org/index.php?id=main

and the statistics are located here:

http://www.elmath.org/index.php?id=statistics


The message board is here:

http://www.elmath.org/forum/index.php

gatekeeper53
01-29-2008, 03:43 PM
I've been running this for a little while now and once you get it set up (which is a bit tricky) it is a project that requires the least babysitting that I have run.

Lagu
01-29-2008, 03:58 PM
If you will run this project and use the BETA-version uour username must hav 6 letters. If you have 5 it is impossible register the agent. For avoid trouble use 6 letters from the beginning. If you only plan running the Standard client using 1 core you are not in need of 6 letters.

But if you lather plan to add a dual core you must change name.

You can run it on 4-cores too.
Their client runs as main.exe and is called elMATH
Read their message boards how you can do that.:icon_wink:

Lagu
01-29-2008, 04:47 PM
All I can say is thet elMath has a nice agent where you can watch the process your scores and team total scores.:)

Read this:

Wieferich@home is a scientific experiment that uses Internet-connected computers in the Search for next Wieferich and Near-Wieferich primes. You can participate by running a free application or screensaver that seeks Wieferich primes. Application has implemented optimal algorithms for systematic seeking the next Wieferich prime. Wieferich@home is a screen-saver or application that uses your computer's idle time to seek Wieferich primes. We want to find the third Wieferich prime and new Near-Wieferich primes. Help scientists to search the third Wieferich prime and participate (http://www.elmath.org/index.php?id=join).

Beerknurd
01-31-2008, 08:33 PM
We seem to be losing ground... Is everyone still running this project??

vaughan
01-31-2008, 08:38 PM
No, I backed off once we reached 1st. Got some BOINC'ing and eOn'ing to do. I'm still waiting for the application version where you can set it for no more new work. Jan said it was coming but I haven't seen any release yet.

Lagu
01-31-2008, 11:31 PM
We seem to be losing ground... Is everyone still running this project??

I´m! 4 cores:)

Beerknurd
01-31-2008, 11:41 PM
I have 3 cores going... We just need to keep a close eye on second place. They are catching up... :(

vaughan
02-01-2008, 07:24 AM
Jason could you PM or e-mail me when you need help on Wieferich please? I'm trying to grab as many Chess960 tasks as I can at the moment. Also trying my hand back in RieselSieve Boinc and I'm chasing a rank change in eOn so I'm spread thin. I put Doomeva's fileserver running Gentoo 32bit on PrimeGrid duties. Also experimenting with a Gentoo 64bit install on a new Q6600. Problems so far as the the original HDD - Seagate 500GB SATA II - decided it didn't like a dual boot of Vista Home Premium 32bit and Gentoo 64 bit. Yesterday Doomeva replaced the Seagate HDD and put in a 76GB WD Raptor. Today he's installing Gentoo 64bit then I hope to have an ABC cruncher.

AMDave
02-01-2008, 07:33 AM
Yesterday Doomeva replaced the Seagate HDD and put in a 76GB WD Raptor. Today he's installing Gentoo 64bit then I hope to have an ABC cruncher.
In my house we call that "Dad Tax".
It also lends itself nicely to stealing the odd french-fry or piece of chocolate.
Kids can be so useful to have around. LOL

spikey_richie
02-01-2008, 01:05 PM
I just moved onto this from poem@home

Beerknurd
02-01-2008, 01:44 PM
Jason could you PM or e-mail me when you need help on Wieferich please?


Will do.... Thanks Spikey!!!

gatekeeper53
02-01-2008, 08:46 PM
We should catch up some now I was down for 2 days due to someone buying my ISP. Back up now and dumped a few.

Beerknurd
02-02-2008, 03:06 PM
Thanks Terry... Right now we are 36 points ahead.

vaio
02-02-2008, 06:47 PM
Hmmm, I completed a unit yesterday that still hasn't validated or whatever :icon_neutral:

Math math, everywhere ya look there's math :icon_rolleyes::icon_lol:

Nflight
02-02-2008, 07:49 PM
Math math, everywhere ya look there's math :icon_rolleyes::icon_lol:

Actually Math is how the Common computer works by counting ones and zero's!

gatekeeper53
02-02-2008, 07:55 PM
01011001 01000101 01010011 01001001 01010100 01000100 01001111 01000101 01010011*******Y E S I T D O E S...........Math is everywhere

Nflight
02-02-2008, 08:07 PM
Looks like 2 sets of Hexi-decimal bytes, arranged in an ongoing set of packets of information. I would be able to tell you the total of each packet in decimal if that is your intent with the post there Gatekeeper53?

There are nine of these packets, meaning one more then a normal communication volley, meaning you have a header and or trailer toggle bit. Yes it knows where its going or, gee I better leave a trail of bread crumbs so I can find my way back from who ever sent me in laymen's terms! Ha ha

Beerknurd
02-03-2008, 04:57 AM
Thanks Terry... Right now we are 36 points ahead.

We are now 50 points ahead. Great job guys!!!!

AMDave
02-03-2008, 05:26 AM
01110100 01101000 01100101 01110010 01100101 00100000 01100001 01110010 01100101 00100000 00110001 00110000 00100000 01110110 01100001 01101100 01110101 01100101 01110011 00100000 01101001 01101110 00100000 01100010 01101001 01101110 01100001 01110010 01111001 00111010 00100000 00110001 00100000 01100001 01101110 01100100 00100000 00110000

Hillarity!!!!

@Nflight
You need this link if you want to play with gatekeeper53:
http://www.paulschou.com/tools/xlate/

gatekeeper53
02-03-2008, 09:16 AM
67 72 65 61 74 20 6a 6f 62 20 64 61 76 65 20 6f 72 20 79 6f 75 20 63 6f 75 6c 64 20 68 61 76 65 20 68 61 64 20 74 6f 20 6c 65 61 72 6e 20 74 6f 20 63 6f 64 65 20 6c 69 6b 65 20 74 68 69 73 20 69 6e 20 74 68 65 20 64 61 79

spikey_richie
02-03-2008, 09:23 AM
If anyone has VB6, I wrote an app to between Hex, Dec and Bin :)



Function BinToDec(value As String) As Long
Dim result As Long, i As Integer, exponent As Integer
For i = Len(value) To 1 Step -1
Select Case Asc(Mid$(value, i, 1))
Case 48 ' "0", do nothing
Case 49 ' "1", add the corresponding power of 2
result = result Or Power(exponent)
Case Else
Err.Raise 5 ' Invalid procedure call or argument
End Select
exponent = exponent + 1
Next
BinToDec = result
End Function

Function DecToBin(ByVal value As Long, Optional digits As Long = -1) As String
Dim result As String, exponent As Integer
' this is faster than creating the string by appending chars
result = String$(32, "0")
Do
If value And Power(exponent) Then
' we found a bit that is set, clear it
Mid$(result, 32 - exponent, 1) = "1"
value = value Xor Power(exponent)
End If
exponent = exponent + 1
Loop While value
If digits < 0 Then
' trim non significant digits, if digits was omitted or negative
Bin = Mid$(result, 33 - exponent)
Else
' else trim to the requested number of digits
DecToBin = Right$(result, digits)
End If
End Function

Function Power(ByVal exponent As Long) As Long
Static res(0 To 31) As Long
Dim i As Long

' rule out errors
If exponent < 0 Or exponent > 31 Then Err.Raise 5

' initialise the array at the first call
If res(0) = 0 Then
res(0) = 1
For i = 1 To 30
res(i) = res(i - 1) * 2
Next
' this is a special case
res(31) = &H80000000
End If

' return the result
Power = res(exponent)

End Function

Nflight
02-03-2008, 09:24 AM
I just love these puzzles so early in the morning! Gatekeeper53 would you like this translated to what particularly? Back to binary, or into a legible assemblers code to enable something you have in mind?

spikey_richie
02-03-2008, 09:26 AM
ignore me - duplicate post...

gatekeeper53
02-03-2008, 09:40 AM
We used to have to read core dumps (from paper) in Hex most of the time more than a thousand pages of one part paper. And that was from a machine with 512k of RAM. You just got used to it after awhile. Since it wasn't uncommon to have the mainframe lock up 4 or 5 times a day. LOL and people think Windoze is unstable. Believe me when I tell you that the "Good old days" in computers sucked!

AMDave
02-03-2008, 10:15 AM
49 20 64 69 64 20 73 6f 6d 65 20 4d 41 53 4d 20 62 75 74 20 49 20 77 61 73 20 73 74 69 6c 6c 20 74 6f 6f 20 79 6f 75 6e 67 2e 20
Heh. I'll call that one a "Burn" :icon_twisted:

First one to hack spikey's code into an EBCDIC-ASCII converter in VB6 wins !
I'm off to bed. LOL

spikey_richie
02-03-2008, 05:30 PM
Anyone know how the points system works? I point for every result returned?

Beerknurd
02-03-2008, 05:41 PM
Yes that is correct Spikey.

spikey_richie
02-03-2008, 06:14 PM
I was just looking through the list of results returned, and the number of primes found. The only user who has found a prime is dobesj (Jan Dobes), who it would seem is developer of the app (see the project authors list on the main project window).

http://www.elmath.org/index.php?id=nearwp shows the result, with a link to dobesj's profile. He only crunched one work unit, which turned out to be a prime and scored him 15 points.

For some reason that tweaked my interest receptors, so I though I'd share with the group :) Maybe I'm reading too much into it, and there's more that one Jan Dobes (who shares his name with one of the projects authors).

Beerknurd
02-03-2008, 06:29 PM
That is pretty strange...

Beerknurd
02-03-2008, 06:30 PM
We are currently 57 points ahead!!!! It's growing slowly but surely!!!

gatekeeper53
02-03-2008, 07:14 PM
He did a wu with a known prime to prove the app.

spikey_richie
02-03-2008, 07:59 PM
Yeah that makes sense, I did wonder about that but why not remove it from the records?

Beerknurd
02-04-2008, 03:29 AM
64 points ahead!!!

gatekeeper53
02-04-2008, 09:36 AM
Ya'll might want to right click on the tray icon and select "Search for updates" and go through the update.

gatekeeper53
02-04-2008, 02:38 PM
Come on guys get those updates made and start racking up those bonus points (2 points for a regular unit and 4 for one of the long ones) They more than double what we get for current wu's. And you lose nothing on the running wu. It restarts automaticaly at the end of the update right where it left off.

vaio
02-04-2008, 03:51 PM
They've doubled the pointage on this?

Beerknurd
02-04-2008, 04:08 PM
Read the fine print though... Only update your single core machines!!! he does not have a dual core app out on this version. I made the mistake and updated both cores...




This application was created for purpose of systematic searching third Wieferich prime. Application will after registration tests and process received units and it will search new candidate for Wieferich prime number . Application make use of up - to - date algorithms and new testing method. if any other application ask for additional processor usage, application will release the used procesor usage. This application is for using in one instance only.

gatekeeper53
02-04-2008, 04:11 PM
You still get 1 point for each regular work unit and if you have the most up to date version of the app you get a second point. Also you still get 1 point for the periodical tests and 3 bonus points if you are running the most up to date version. It's very easy to do all you have to do is right click on each tray icon and select "Search for updates" and follow the instructions. It takes less than a minute and restarts the app automatically, with no loss of the current wu. You do have to do it on each instance you have running.

gatekeeper53
02-04-2008, 04:13 PM
Hi Terry,

Bonus points are news for version 2.0 and higher. We very recommended to use actual version of Wieferich@Home.

About main points:
Every gets 1 point C for unit from complete test (main point - same as in previous version)
Every gets 1 point P for unit from periodical test (main point - same as in previous version)

About bonus points:
Every who will use actual version, he will get for every new finnished unit (application or multicore launcher) bonus points. There are no limitations for unit count, important is use actual version:
1 bonus point for finished unit from complete test
3 bonus points for finished unit from periodical test.

If there is any new version of Wieferich@Home (important is line "Current version" in stats page), and member will use older version, he can't get other bonus points. If any member download new version, he will get bonus points again. He will get information (same as in Skype small window above tray icon) about new version. There are bonus points for finished units from actual final or beta version only (installation of the multicore launcher contains same application of Wieferich@Home + multicore launcher, important is for bonus points version of Wieferich@Home, not multicore launcher).

Jan

Terry Bond napsal(a):

Beerknurd
02-04-2008, 04:21 PM
Ok, so I am kinda confused now... Did I have to update at all...?? Terry, your last post makes it sound like the multi core agent was the latest update.

I did the update on my dual core and it started both instances with the same information. Both tests had the exact same completion percentages... So it looks like they both picked up at the same spot. I will just go with it and hope everything processes ok...

gatekeeper53
02-04-2008, 04:28 PM
That's the way it works. It got me too. I guess the guy was pretty slick about it. I have 6 bonus points so far and as much as I can tell there are only two other people with any as yet.

Beerknurd
02-04-2008, 04:35 PM
Sheesh... I hope doing the update didn't mess my stuff up. When you update the single core machines the app actually looks a bit different... The green grid at the bottom seems a bit more graphical. The app on the dual cores seems the same.


How can you tell if you get bonus points??

gatekeeper53
02-04-2008, 04:37 PM
http://www.elmath.org/index.php?id=display_member&id_user=0119035619B14

http://www.elmath.org/index.php?id=display_member&id_user=1231092828D21

http://www.elmath.org/index.php?id=display_member&id_user=1230231357D11

It's listed on your profile

Beerknurd
02-04-2008, 04:39 PM
:lol: Dur... Maybe I should go get my eyes checked... :lol:

vaio
02-04-2008, 04:47 PM
*shudders*........this client reminds me of the U.D client :icon_razz:

Beerknurd
02-04-2008, 04:51 PM
Yea, I remember that client... Sheesh. I like this project... It never runs out of work, and requires no babysitting. I just let it run in the background. :)

vaio
02-04-2008, 04:53 PM
Too busy elsewhere right now to do any.
My team got a Czech addition today-he musta clicked on the wrong team name :icon_lol:

Beerknurd
02-04-2008, 04:54 PM
My only beef with this project is the message boards... I can't read over half the posts cause they are in a different language. I bet there is some good info lurking in there. But the creator over there is really good about answering questions in English if you post them. So it makes up for it.

Beerknurd
02-05-2008, 12:11 AM
77 points ahead. :)

Lagu
02-05-2008, 02:44 AM
I have now update the elMath agent on my AMD64 but it took over 1 hour. When I tried load their homepage it is damn to slow. I will wait to lather before I will update my Intel and AMD Athlon.

It isn´t worth be sitting in the night and waith for it to finich. But I can already say the new agent is really fast.

My AMD64 runs at 2.277/207 MHz
CPU Priority = Normal
Memory use = High (Extreme speed)
CPU temp = 52C
System = 32 C

But I wonder what "Stop other work" mean?

Any as know if elMath support SSE2, SSE3 and 3DNow?

Lagu:icon_confused:

Lagu
02-05-2008, 05:42 AM
After I updated the agent as runs on my AMD64 the first WU was finiched after an hour. Then next WU sloved down drastically to 0,08 % per step. Before it jumped between 0,66 to 1.66 %. That is a huge difference.

Total tested primes per sec is between 572-656 and bits is 51
There is also bits 53 and I dont know if there is any difference in time when they will be finiched.

Lagu:icon_confused:

Lagu
02-05-2008, 09:33 AM
Now I have the newest ElMath-agent on all 4 cores but when I should upgrade the Intel I failed and yet I did 3 attemps. What did I then? Yes,

1. Go to the folder of ElMath.
2. Copy and paste the main icon of Elmath to the dachboard.
3. Quit both agents
4. Click on the main icon and only 1 agent starts.
4 Rightclick on the agent and "Search after update"

Follow the instructions and both agents will be updated. You ned not use both to upgrade both. It is simple and takes 30 sec. Only click on update, then OK. Don´t change anything!

6. Click on main icon again and you have 2 agents in the systray or what the name now is.
7. Set your preferences on both and cloce both agents. (There will be a daloque square as tell you to restart the agent.)

8. And that is important: Remove the main icon and use the common icon to start both at the same time.

Lagu:)

gatekeeper53
02-05-2008, 12:59 PM
Beer,
You were right! The duals didn't update with the simple way. I had to download from the site and do them before they started giving out bonus. Sometimes language barriers drive me nuts. When the update is good the clients do have the new form.

vaughan
02-05-2008, 01:15 PM
:sad5: :sad5: :sad5:

I tried updating on a Core 2 Duo that had two clients with the short tasks at approx 50% complete. I clicked on the Update word from R clicking the stoplight in the System Tray and proceeded to update my Main client. It wiped out the two partially completed tasks.

Note to self for the other computers in my pharm :icon_twisted:


Jan never answered my question in the official message board about "how often does it do a checkpoint?"

Does anyone have any stats yet on how long the tasks take on different CPUs?

gatekeeper53
02-05-2008, 02:01 PM
It seems that if you just stop the client it checkpoints at that point with no loss. I did the same thing as you did when I updated one of my machines and lost 2 half done short tests, (I hate losing finished work) the peroidical tests went on seemingly unaffected. If this calms down for a couple of days now we should be able to see how long they take on different machines by comparing the times in the finished work files of each machine. Since one starts as soon as another finishes it should be a simple matter of subtraction.

Beerknurd
02-05-2008, 03:00 PM
Yea, I lost 2 tests on each core for a total of 4... But the tests that started on the new app, finished super fast. The second set of WU's are still going... I did get some bonus points though. So it kinda makes up for it I guess...

Beerknurd
02-05-2008, 03:08 PM
I am using the maximum setting for the client. I was running 4 virtual machines just for dimes. I had to close 2 of them so Wieferich would run at it's highest settings. I will see if it is worth it. I may start my 2 virtual machines up and set the memory down to the lowest setting if Wieferich doesn't pan out. My Dimes scores are suffering... :(

gatekeeper53
02-05-2008, 03:28 PM
I think I have everything firing on all cylinders now so it should gain some ground. If this guy http://www.elmath.org/index.php?id=display_member&id_user=0113014311C1 makes the updates, it'd going to look like he's been shot out of a cannon.

Beerknurd
02-05-2008, 03:51 PM
Yikes, no kidding... That's crazy... I had to switch back to the lowest memory setting. My machine ran like crap. I only have 2 gigs of Ram... I have 4 virtual machines going, 5 instances of Dimes and Wieferich going all at the same time... Maybe I should add more RAM. :lol: Then maybe I could get a few more Virtual Machines going. Maybe I could keep up with Vaughan's sudden increase in Dimes production.

gatekeeper53
02-05-2008, 04:30 PM
Ut Oh It looks like the bonus only applies to the personal score and not to the team score. I'm sending an email to Jan now to check on this.

spikey_richie
02-05-2008, 04:40 PM
Now I have the newest ElMath-agent on all 4 cores but when I should upgrade the Intel I failed and yet I did 3 attemps. What did I then? Yes,

1. Go to the folder of ElMath.
2. Copy and paste the main icon of Elmath to the dachboard.
3. Quit both agents
4. Click on the main icon and only 1 agent starts.
4 Rightclick on the agent and "Search after update"

Follow the instructions and both agents will be updated. You ned not use both to upgrade both. It is simple and takes 30 sec. Only click on update, then OK. Don´t change anything!

6. Click on main icon again and you have 2 agents in the systray or what the name now is.
7. Set your preferences on both and cloce both agents. (There will be a daloque square as tell you to restart the agent.)

8. And that is important: Remove the main icon and use the common icon to start both at the same time.

Lagu:)

Worked a treat - thanks Lagu :icon_thumright:

vaio
02-05-2008, 04:49 PM
Still too busy racing Ars at Poem to try it.
I assume a clean install is the way to go?

I think my current unit is only a few % in so losing it wouldn't be a biggie.

gatekeeper53
02-05-2008, 05:10 PM
Here is the rep;y I got from Jan about the team score in regards to the Bonus points:

Hi Terry...

Server is updating now... we finished individual score (member's point + bonus points) and have been work with team's points.

I think that to the 4 hours from now will be everything finished.

Jan

Terry Bond napsal(a):

Hi Jan,

I just noticed that the "Bonus" points are only adding to the individual's score and not the team scores. Is this correct?


Terry Bond

Lagu
02-05-2008, 08:06 PM
Yikes, no kidding... That's crazy... I had to switch back to the lowest memory setting. My machine ran like crap. I only have 2 gigs of Ram... I have 4 virtual machines going, 5 instances of Dimes and Wieferich going all at the same time... Maybe I should add more RAM. :lol: Then maybe I could get a few more Virtual Machines going. Maybe I could keep up with Vaughan's sudden increase in Dimes production.

Yeah, I had high settings but not the highest possible on my CD2 but both agents made small stops frequently why I had to lower my settings. Memory is sat to low and CPU priority to lowest. My AMD runs at lowest and memory is middle.

I have discowered if I use to tough settings and lather will rightclick on the icon it wan´t open. It is as it have freese. It takes som tim get the icon open up. More moderate settings avoid that problem.:)

Lagu
02-05-2008, 08:24 PM
I too lost 2 WU:s when i update the AMD64 and Athlon. However before I udated the Intel I waited for both WU:s should. You see I´m a smart guy:icon_mrgreen:

But it is as Beerknurd say, the first WU after the update is finiched faster than the second as slowed down to the same speed as before the update.
I as beleived all WU:s should run as fast as the first one.:(

I notised our member Hobby-Ex from Chezh Republic don´t know how update his duallie. He have created a new name Hobby-Ex2 for his single core computer. If he should visit our forum he could get advice but he seem to stay behind ur forum. And Ototero havent awoke yet. Or perhaps he has but want to run other tasks too?

Lagu

Lagu
02-05-2008, 08:37 PM
Here is the rep;y I got from Jan about the team score in regards to the Bonus points:

Hi Terry...

Server is updating now... we finished individual score (member's point + bonus points) and have been work with team's points.

I think that to the 4 hours from now will be everything finished.

Jan


Terry Bond napsal(a):
Hi Jan,



I just noticed that the "Bonus" points are only adding to the individual's score and not the team scores. Is this correct?




Terry Bond



Thank you Terry for your engagement. You are our great army leader!:icon_mrgreen:

Lagu

Beerknurd
02-05-2008, 11:52 PM
149 points ahead!!! Our lead is growing super fast... Let's hope second place doesn't realize there is a new app until we are 1,000+ points ahead... :)

gatekeeper53
02-05-2008, 11:53 PM
How about 150 for a lead?
http://www.elmath.org/index.php?id=team

Beerknurd
02-06-2008, 01:19 AM
Egon's Profile (http://www.elmath.org/index.php?id=display_member&id_user=0113014311C1)

He has started getting bonus points... if all of his machines update.... This could get ugly for us really fast...

gatekeeper53
02-06-2008, 12:47 PM
WE HAVE A NEW VERSION!!!!! 2.0.5.1!!!! I have found a way to update duals without losing any data. I guess the rapid changes are the reason for the extra points. Look at your client is should have a slot the is headed Corrent Client and there is an X there indicating that a newer version is available.

gatekeeper53
02-06-2008, 12:52 PM
I think I found a way to not lose any data in the update. When you update you do the normal update for single core machines (be sure the client isn't running) On the duals you download the same app then don't let it start you start it with the launcher that is on your desk top already. It's the launcher that starts 2 or 4 instances no matter the version. So, you just replace the old version with the new and the launcher goes without losing a bit or byte of data.

Beerknurd
02-06-2008, 03:59 PM
OK, I updated... But I still have the red x on my profile... Maybe it changes after you submit a result??

gatekeeper53
02-06-2008, 04:19 PM
Yes it does. Mine did. Did you lose any data?

Lagu
02-06-2008, 05:07 PM
I stopped the agent and selected "Update" on the AMD64 and AMD Athlon and I didn´t lose any work.

I got a message as popped up on the right hand side telling me to upgrade. After a little while it disappeared.

I wonder what the difference is?

Lagu:)

gatekeeper53
02-06-2008, 05:14 PM
Lagu,
Right click on the tray icon and select the "about" line. It will tell you if you are running the new app 2.0.5.1

Beerknurd
02-06-2008, 05:25 PM
I don't think I lost any data...

spikey_richie
02-06-2008, 05:35 PM
I didn't have the update option as usual it was greyed out, so I just downloaded the usual client, ran the install and ran the launcher. No data lost, and updated fine.

gatekeeper53
02-06-2008, 05:48 PM
All this upgrading is going to drive that guy in 1st place with 28 core nuts, lol

Beerknurd
02-06-2008, 07:04 PM
:lol: I was thinking the same thing Terry...

Ototero
02-07-2008, 10:30 AM
I upgraded too. No data lost :):):)

Lagu
02-07-2008, 06:44 PM
Here is a random sample of WU’s as has been finished. An average is difficult to get because the time varies over time.

When we gets more points

Intel C2D core 1:

CTII 13,06,26
PTII 37,58,21

Core 2

CTII 11,53,26
PTII 43,46,54

AMD 64

CT11 13,36,47
PTII Not finished yet

Before we got more points:

Intel C2D core 1

CT 9,36,49
PT 26,47,48

Core 2
CT 11,58,35
PT 43,46,54

AMD64
CT 7,09,40
PT 37,48,59

Core 1 and 2 has different times. That can be because I use the Intel as my personal one and sometimes AMD watching Internet. But I can be wrong. The time difference is too large. 1,13 times. I have discovered when a WU is finished it takes a while before it will be uploaded. Sometimes I have to restart the agent to get it working. Perhaps there is another explanation why the 2 cores differ.

As you can see the time for a WU have increased by a few hours more. The Periodical test takes longer too.

I have discovered if I use full throttle on the Intel the agents stops frequently as one core is waiting for the other. It stops for a while then it continue. But I don’t know how much time I lose or if it'll all be the same in the end?

For example if I should run the Intel at full throttle when I sleep and no other applications is open?

Vaughan here you have my computers times for finished tasks. But Gatekeper53 is faster running his powerful AMD’s.

We have got a new member from the Russian Federation:icon_mrgreen:

Lagu:)

Lagu
02-07-2008, 10:20 PM
I have been babysitting watching the agent as runs on my AMD64.

When the unit is complete I get a red stoplight and the WU does not be uploaded.
The periodical tests have a green GO light and continue work. The processor works at 100 percent.
After I think an hour the periodical test stopped working and a new task was received. The percentage done was 83,35 and when the test stopped and I got a new work it had gone up to 88,00 %

I had said it took a while before I received a new task and now I know why. If it is the same on the Intel I don’t know.

Lagu:)

Beerknurd
02-07-2008, 11:59 PM
We are 190 ahead right now.... Keep up the good work guys!!!!!!

Lagu
02-08-2008, 11:37 AM
They had submitted an old CT WU as took 1,08 hour to finich. Did I lose 1 points extra? It chows CT not CTII.

Lagu:icon_confused:

Beerknurd
02-09-2008, 12:51 AM
220 ahead !!!!!

Beerknurd
02-12-2008, 12:19 AM
291 ahead!!!!!

Beerknurd
02-13-2008, 12:20 AM
375 Ahead

Good job guys!!! Keep it up!!!

:wav:

I wonder when all the other big teams will find this... I kinda wish Free-DC would find it so we can get some Free-DC stats for this project...

gatekeeper53
02-13-2008, 12:43 PM
I asked Bok about it and he said he would add it, all he needs is for Ototero to send him the specifics.

Beerknurd
02-14-2008, 02:47 AM
Cool, thanks Terry... Production was down today... Only gained 22 points...

397 ahead as of right now...

Beerknurd
02-15-2008, 01:46 AM
498 ahead.

gatekeeper53
02-16-2008, 09:46 AM
The way DD is chewing up wu's I'd say his internet problems are over! LOL 600+ up and passing the speed of smell.

Danish Dynamite
02-16-2008, 10:34 AM
lol yes internet issues resolved, i will properly pause this project for a week for February race

shnal
02-16-2008, 05:35 PM
I like the look of this client and I think it'll be my project this year. I have only one machine at home now - an AMD 3000, plus two at work - a 2600 and a 2800 but I'll put them on it.

It would be nice for AMD Users to stay at first place.

Frederic Brillouet
02-16-2008, 05:41 PM
I like the look of this client and I think it'll be my project this year. I have only one machine at home now - an AMD 3000, plus two at work - a 2600 and a 2800 but I'll put them on it.

It would be nice for AMD Users to stay at first place.
Arent you joining us for our little stint at Poem?

Beerknurd
02-16-2008, 06:57 PM
Welcome to the effort Shnal!!! We haven't seen you for a while...

shnal
02-16-2008, 07:07 PM
Thanks Beer.

Last year I ran D2OL on the three machines I have access to. I didn't run anything in January because I went on holiday to Egypt. I've been looking for a new project to run.

I won't run poem because I'm content to run just one project for the duration of the year. I don't have any serious Ghz to put forward but I like to think that it contributes somewhat through persistant "staying power"!

D2OL could be a bit of a pain at work when it was freezing up. Hopefully this client will be better behaved.

Beerknurd
02-16-2008, 08:25 PM
This project is great. It never runs out of work and seems super stable as long as the client setting are set right for your machines. For example the processor and RAM configurations.

Again it's nice to see you on the boards again. :)

NeoGen
02-16-2008, 10:16 PM
Hey! Great to see you again shnal! :)

Elmath (Wieferich) is a great project. The initial versions of the app had a few problems but I think they're mostly solved by now. But keep an eye on the site every once in a while for news or new apps. I've read somewhere that they give bonus points to the people running the latest versions.

Beerknurd
02-18-2008, 10:31 PM
728 Ahead of second place now... :)

Beerknurd
02-22-2008, 10:49 PM
996 Ahead!!!!!

:wav:

gatekeeper53
02-22-2008, 11:43 PM
UP by 1,000 http://stats3.free-dc.org/stats.php?page=proj&proj=wie

Brucifer
02-23-2008, 12:43 AM
This effort ever going to be anything besides windows?

vaughan
02-23-2008, 04:09 AM
Not sure as it seems to rely in some IE hooks to work. eg I have one PC which has a corrupted version of IE6 that refuses to work. Its Firefox and Opera browsers as well as eOn, Dimes and BOINC all connect without problems. BUT, wieferich will not upload or download tasks. Jan says it due to the IE problem.

Beerknurd
02-27-2008, 04:36 PM
1537 ahead now!!!!!

We ROCK!!!!!!!! http://i16.photobucket.com/albums/b49/jaclar79/Smilies/thwoot.gif

:wav:

gatekeeper53
02-27-2008, 06:22 PM
Hey DD! Looks like Vaughan stole some of your computer's food.

Danish Dynamite
02-28-2008, 02:51 AM
lol yeah kinda does look like that, phenom had some sleep over night set all clients to no new work so i could get old work units crunching but forgot about it and went to sleep, oops my bad lol

vaughan
02-28-2008, 08:41 AM
Come on team - let's take 1-2-3 in Wieferich.

I calculate that 1st is 90 days away give or take a bit. I wonder when those 45nm Q9300 quads will appear in the retail channel? Or who know when AMD will deam us worthy of the Phenom 9900 quads.

Danish Dynamite
02-29-2008, 05:39 AM
well judging by your output vaughan i guess ill be gunning for 2nd unless 9900 come out before that

liuqyn
03-01-2008, 03:44 PM
just through a couple cores on here. not sure how long I'll run it though.

Lagu
03-01-2008, 09:16 PM
Thanks liugyn.

Lagu:)

Beerknurd
03-03-2008, 03:47 AM
2416 Ahead!!!!!!

http://i16.photobucket.com/albums/b49/jaclar79/Smilies/thwoot.gif

Danish Dynamite
03-03-2008, 04:11 AM
just through a couple cores on here. not sure how long I'll run it though.

i would hate to see what you mean by a heap of cores lol

Danish Dynamite
03-03-2008, 06:14 AM
congrats to vaughan for passing 1,000 credits

vaio
03-03-2008, 08:38 PM
Guys......I suggest you go check the stats/forum.
Do you know anything about the sudden stats change????

Seems you took a big hit percentage wise all of a sudden.

Just thought you'd like to know.

Beerknurd
03-03-2008, 09:04 PM
Holy Crap look at our scores... :lol:

We all did some serious crunching overnight... :lol:

vaughan
03-03-2008, 09:17 PM
WTF - looks like I need another quad on this little project. :icon_twisted:

Goes shopping ...

Nflight
03-03-2008, 09:23 PM
You all gained an extra decimal point. I had only completed 3 work units, now I have 30. More credit for the work you have done. While it looks fabulous, it also means that for every work unit completed you get ten points, not one! No more comparison with PI Segment and the tiny little steps of numbers on the stats pages, now you are joining the grand stage! :)

Go get em Team Mates! :blob3:

vaio
03-03-2008, 09:50 PM
There's something not right........my team climbed to 7th today and when they changed whatever they've done we dropped back to 9th.

Whatever stats system one uses, more is more.....ergo we should still be 7th.

And how does one account for your team going from 51% of total output to 29%???

Danish Dynamite
03-03-2008, 10:24 PM
i have one client not getting new work, sure is stange whats happening with points

Beerknurd
03-03-2008, 10:40 PM
There is no bonus section on the profiles anymore...

Terry, Vaughan, Lagu, Liuqyn, and Danish Dynamite's profiles say VIP of the week...

Congrats Guys!!!!

gatekeeper53
03-03-2008, 11:38 PM
My isp had been down and I dropped in a bunch right after the change I guess. LOL This'll be the last time I get close to Vaughan and DD in a day!!! OH and I finally hit my first milestone on Bok's page, and my second, and third, and forth, and fifth,.............

Beerknurd
03-03-2008, 11:55 PM
So how many points does 1 WU get you now??

liuqyn
03-03-2008, 11:59 PM
There is no bonus section on the profiles anymore...

Terry, Vaughan, Lagu, Liuqyn, and Danish Dynamite's profiles say VIP of the week...

Congrats Guys!!!!

gee thanks, I run for a week and already a VIP.. :icon_razz:

Beerknurd
03-04-2008, 12:06 AM
That is what you get for having a bunch of computers... How dare them give you recognition... :)

Danish Dynamite
03-04-2008, 12:07 AM
So how many points does 1 WU get you now??

from what i can work out so far ct unit gets 16 point and i think pt unit gets 24 points

liuqyn
03-04-2008, 12:18 AM
That is what you get for having a bunch of computers... How dare them give you recognition... :)

well, just for that I might have to put the ENTIRE pharm on it when I get back home.

Beerknurd
03-04-2008, 12:22 AM
Uh oh... I guess we are in trouble... :icon_razz:

vaughan
03-04-2008, 01:13 AM
I wish I could translate some of the Hungarian posts. Maybe they have been asking the same questions too. :icon_rolleyes:

Beerknurd
03-04-2008, 01:17 AM
Have you tried using one of the online translators??

Danish Dynamite
03-04-2008, 01:34 AM
just noticed this on stats page
Rankings
Number of points (old versions of client) 11
Number of points (actual version of client) 16
Updating of unit values 2008-03-03 17:31:33 CET
Next update of CT points 2008-03-10 02:00:00 CET

Number of points (old versions of client) 16
Number of points (actual version of client) 24
Updating of unit values 2008-03-03 17:31:33 CET
Next update of PT points 2008-03-10 02:00:00 CET

Beerknurd
03-04-2008, 01:36 AM
More points makes it a bit more interesting... :)

Lagu
03-04-2008, 03:44 PM
From their forum:

(All old points were re-counted.) Updating of unit values will take place every Monday at 2:00 CET.

From my view it seem as they will update the values every Monday and every week for the time beÃ*ng.

Lagu

Lagu
03-04-2008, 04:41 PM
I wish I could translate some of the Hungarian posts. Maybe they have been asking the same questions too. :icon_rolleyes:

Vaughan, I use NADA:s (The Swedish school agency) dictionary when I not know the right word in English. They have links to a lot of dictionarys and online translators.

I have tested download a English-Russian and Russian-English translator and it worked wery well. It was a huge file for 30-days testing.

Try West Slavic language but search after translators for online translating or download their testversion.

http://www.yourdictionary.com/

A trial version: http://www.ectaco.com/main.jsp?do=products-download&review=6&item=2819

Lagu:)