L'Alliance Francophone closing in

[cicide]

L'Alliance Francophone looks to be closing in on our first place team position. They are at about 17M to our 21M and at times in the past weeks have beaten our daily output by as much as 50k.

I've got every system I can have running, running cosmo at this time, hopefully with a little more help, we can hold them off.

-Chris

[PoorBoy]

I noticed that myself a few days ago and moved most of my Pc's back on Cosmo too, the French Team has beaten us pretty handily the last few days though ... :icon_neutral:

[gamer007]

I'll switch my PC to Cosmo when I finish my LLR Riesel Sieve WUs. They take forever!

[vaughan]

I'll see what I can do. Not much to spare but I guess every GHz counts.

[mitchellds]

I'll switch back shortly also.

[Frederic Brillouet]

Got the q on there, others will follow when my internet meter has reset (6 days to go). I get the message there was work but it was committed to other platforms from cosmo (i have 6 wu's on my q). any ideas on what to do?

EDIT: nevermind, it downloads some after a while

[PoorBoy]

Thats quite normal Fred ... :)

Just a heads up on the Wu's, I would Abort any Wu's created before 03/20/08. The Wu's are Numbered like this > wu_032008_130448_2_1 so the first set of Numbers after the wu_ is the Month Day & Year the Wu was created.

The Second set of Numbers is the Hour Minute & Second the Wu's was actually created on the Day it was created so they are easy to figure out.

The reason I say to Abort them is because theres only a 50/50 chance they will complete before getting an error or even if they do complete you may or may not get Credit for them ... :icon_rolleyes:

PS: I see you & Vaughan posted over in the Cosmo Forum, I have a feeling the Server is being overloaded for Work Requests because of the Outrageous Credit the project is giving out right now. My Quads are pulling 600-800 Credits Per Hour with the short Wu Length's, even once I get into the 80 Credit Wu's I'll still be pulling over 500 Per Hour I suspect.

So whats happening is every Credit Hound in BOINC is trying to get in on the Credits & thus Overloading the Server, I'm having a hard time the last day or so connecting to the Server too.

[Nflight]

Sounds like Cosmology is about to crash ! ! ! ...................! ! ! Again :(

[Frederic Brillouet]

AF will close in even more, got heaps of pending credit and the amd refuses to get new wu's and the intel is almost dry. I vote to launch the cosmo project + all staff into orbit.

[PoorBoy]

I posted this over in the Cosmo Forum in response to a post by 1 of the Mod's to try and get some sort of reaction from anybody that has anything to do with the Project.



How often do the Project Support team look in?
Not often enough.
Which is Par for the Course after awhile once a Project gets started, it seems the Projects always get shoved to the back burner as the Dev's have more important things to be doing other than worrying whether their Project is running or not ... o_0
Personally I'd like to see a uniformed agreement among the Participants @ Projects like this to just Abort all their Wu's and walk away from it. When the Dev's finally do check in on their I can't be bothered with it project let them figure out where everybody went.
And don't tell me the Projects Beta, if it is then thats all the more reason for the Dev's to Communicate more & check in on it at least more than once a week or month or ever if thats what they do.

For the last 3 or 4 day's we have:

1. Wu's Failing or Looping @ then just being Re-Issued so they can Fail or Loop for the next 4-6 People
2. Can't Download Work or very little if any at all (This is the most irritating Problem of them all & has been ever since the Projects inception & never really has been fixed to date yet)
3. Can't Upload Finished Wu's or very slow in getting them Uploaded
4. Harder that Heck to move around the Forum or your Account
5. Wu's not being Validated (I personally have over 1/2 Million Credits coming & I know others have more than that)
6. Wu's being Validated with 0 Credit

Probably some other Problems that I'm forgetting, other than those whats not to like about this project ... ;) ... All these problems without any word from Scott or anybody, a nice I'm working on it or just deal with it I'll fix it when I get ready to would be nice and takes all of 5 seconds to post ... :)

Whats the Point in having a Urgent Problems Thread when it's quite obvious nothing about this Project is very Urgent to anybody that has to fix the Urgent Problems.

PS: Personally I'm getting tired of running this Project & about ready to let the French have it, all I've done for the last 2 days is babysit my computers trying to keep work on them from the project. You shouldn't have to do that @ any Project but then this has been an ongoing problem ever since the projects inception @ I've about had my fill of it ...

[Frederic Brillouet]

I posted this over in the Cosmo Forum in response to a post by 1 of the Mod's to try and get some sort of reaction from anybody that has anything to do with the Project.


Which is Par for the Course after awhile once a Project gets started, it seems the Projects always get shoved to the back burner as the Dev's have more important things to be doing other than worrying whether their Project is running or not ... o_0
Personally I'd like to see a uniformed agreement among the Participants @ Projects like this to just Abort all their Wu's and walk away from it. When the Dev's finally do check in on their I can't be bothered with it project let them figure out where everybody went.
And don't tell me the Projects Beta, if it is then thats all the more reason for the Dev's to Communicate more & check in on it at least more than once a week or month or ever if thats what they do.

For the last 3 or 4 day's we have:

1. Wu's Failing or Looping @ then just being Re-Issued so they can Fail or Loop for the next 4-6 People
2. Can't Download Work or very little if any at all (This is the most irritating Problem of them all & has been ever since the Projects inception & never really has been fixed to date yet)
3. Can't Upload Finished Wu's or very slow in getting them Uploaded
4. Harder that Heck to move around the Forum or your Account
5. Wu's not being Validated (I personally have over 1/2 Million Credits coming & I know others have more than that)
6. Wu's being Validated with 0 Credit

Probably some other Problems that I'm forgetting, other than those whats not to like about this project ... ;) ... All these problems without any word from Scott or anybody, a nice I'm working on it or just deal with it I'll fix it when I get ready to would be nice and takes all of 5 seconds to post ... :)

Whats the Point in having a Urgent Problems Thread when it's quite obvious nothing about this Project is very Urgent to anybody that has to fix the Urgent Problems.

PS: Personally I'm getting tired of running this Project & about ready to let the French have it, all I've done for the last 2 days is babysit my computers trying to keep work on them from the project. You shouldn't have to do that @ any Project but then this has been an ongoing problem ever since the projects inception @ I've about had my fill of it ...
though I dont have nearly 0,1% of your work, I feel the same. I momentarily shut it down on all my puters (in part to save the last scraps of download limit i have left). Might try again afterwards, but this just isnt a way to treat people who put effort (computers + electricity + whatever else) (and in some cases huge efforts like you Poorboy and other megapharmers) in their projects

[spikey_richie]

I tried to jump on board, but got this:



28/03/2008 21:33:35|Cosmology@Home|Message from server: Server can't open database

[PoorBoy]

That's Par for the Course from the Project ... :icon_rolleyes:

So far I've been able to keep work on my Quads except for last night when I had to fire up a Back Up Project on 2 of them so they wouldn't go Idle while I was sleeping & then this after noon on the same 2 PC's for a few hours.

But I had around 5500 Wu's a few day's ago is the main reason I still have work on them all. I'm down to about 1400 now & before I go to bed tonight I'll probably have to start up the Backup Projects on at least 3 or 4 of them unless they download more work.

More than likely I'll have less & less and just run out eventually unless the Project Dev's get off their rear ends and fix the Download Problems. I can live with any of the Problems except for not being able to get work. If I can't get work then I usually just move on to some other project that's willing to give me some and forget about the other Project that won't ... :icon_twisted:

[PoorBoy]

Just to let everyone know I've stopped running Cosmology for now, the Server is Broken, some of the Wu's are Broken, theres absolutely no communication with the Dev's on fixing these problems either.

That plus the fact I simple have no use for some of the participants at the project anymore either, so it's best at this time that I just leave the project for awhile anyway.

I'll be putting up a few points @ the ABC and or Riesel Sieve Project for now ...:)

[Frederic Brillouet]

Just to let everyone know I've stopped running Cosmology for now, the Server is Broken, some of the Wu's are Broken, theres absolutely no communication with the Dev's on fixing these problems either.

That plus the fact I simple have no use for some of the participants at the project anymore either, so it's best at this time that I just leave the project for awhile anyway.

I'll be putting up a few points @ the ABC and or Riesel Sieve Project for now ...:)
Good descision. If your plan of all participants quitting would be attaineable, that would shake the admins of cosmo enough I'd say.

[PoorBoy]

Good descision. If your plan of all participants quitting would be attaineable, that would shake the admins of cosmo enough I'd say.

It wasn't a Plan really as much as just some wishful thinking on my part, it's something I would whole heartedly participate in at a Project being run as badly as Cosmology right now just to show the Dev's we are not some Mindless Sheep that will attempt to run their Wu's no matter how bad things get.

But the sad thing is a lot of the BOINC Participants are just that, especially if enough Credit is given which at the moment is the only Cosmology has going for it. Give them enough Credit and they will blindly follow seems to be the Cosmology Projects Motto lately @ it works for them ... :icon_rolleyes:

PS: There will be Credits coming from me @ the Project for some time to come as my Pending Credits come in though, not because I'm running the project.

[Nflight]

Looks serious Folks, Our time is certainly limited here, I may have to return to this project if we can't keep ahead of the 400 plus member team approaching from below.

We need another 100,000 a day to stay out front. :blob3: OUCH :(

[PoorBoy]

We need another 100,000 a day to stay out front. :blob3: OUCH :(

We need Triple that to stay in front & maybe even more, the French Team has been gaining 250,000 to 300,000 Per day for close to the last 2 weeks with no increased activity from our side. In fact our production has gone down in the same time period.

Some of that is due to the fact it's very hard to get Wu's from the Project & some of it due to the lack of interest in running the Project on the Team. I really don't have that much interest myself anymore, the Project Dev's have let the Project sink to a Level to where it's the Laughing Stock of the BOINC Projects with no relief in site.

The only reason I'm still running it as much as I can is to try & get to 10 Million Credits @ the Project since I've gotten this close to it already. Once I get there I'm going to Ween myself from the Project, look @ it this way, 2'nd Place isn't that bad at a Project run this heavy, it just means your the 1'st Loser ... :icon_lol: ... :icon_lol: ... :icon_lol: ... :icon_rolleyes:

[Beerknurd]

We need another 100,000 a day to stay out front. :blob3: OUCH :(

Ok, I guess I'll turn my farm on Cosmo... That should hold them off. I should only need about 50 of my Quads right?? :icon_rolleyes:

:icon_mrgreen:

[mitchellds]

Well it all comes down to how badly do we want to keep this first place? Are we going to have a concerted effort to keep it or not? If so, I'll start back. Let me know guys. I have the parts for another quad to spin up shortly also. :icon_rolleyes:

[PoorBoy]

It's not a matter of wanting to run the Project, it's if you can get any Wu's to run it. I've got Quads that haven't seen a Wu's from there in days, thats 1 reason why my Production there has been slowly falling and will continue to do so if some of my other Quads don't get work soon. That plus the fact the French Team has put out 750,000 Credits the last 2 Day's, that's 375,000 Per day, I doubt we can even come close to that amount.

As it is I have to run a back up Project 50/50 with Cosmo on a lot of my PC's because they are so low on Cosmo Wu's. I don't know how Banshee on the French Team is getting so much work to be producing like he (or them) is other than he's running script or something to suck up any Wu's as they become available.

about twice a day, once in the morning & once in the evening I seem to be able to get some work if I pound the server manually, the rest of the day forget it ... :icon_rolleyes:

[vaughan]

True it is hard to get work at Cosmo. I tried a manual update on all my PCs tonight and the only one to get any was my slowest core duo. :icon_twisted:

[mitchellds]

so I guess its not worth the attempt then with the project acting so lame. I'll expend my kilowatts elsewhere...

[Nflight]

IN a way I am sorry I even mentioned it, but the the project handlers are to blame. With 445 members on the opposing team and we know of there abilities to suppress just about any team. It is not our fault at losing this place.

Thanks to everyone for helping when the project was full of life.

[sentient_life]

We are so far ahead of third place BOINC@Australia, that we shouldn't have to worry about any other teams passing us for awhile. As for myself, I already went 14k above my personal 100,000 credit goal on Cosmo, so I wouldn't be running it much in the immediate future. And Cosmo seems to be terribly unreliable for any PUSH weeks.

[PoorBoy]

I did a little snooping around the French Teams Forum & apparently this Banshee Fellow on the French Team has 500+ Computers @ his disposal, Corporate Computers no doubt I would say. That and he has taken a liking to running the Cosmo Project so we can pretty much kiss 1'st place good bye in a few day's.

It's been a good run though & the Team should be proud & everybody should be congratulated for holding on to 1'st Place for as long as we did. We should be able to hold on to 2'nd place for some time to come though or at least until somebody else comes in with a Billion Company Computers anyway ... :icon_rolleyes: ... :icon_lol:

[mitchellds]

heh heh, what a cheater banshee is .. :icon_twisted:

[Frederic Brillouet]

I'm gonna ask my sisters boyfriend if he cant help us out. He works at IBM...

[Ototero]

I could ask my mate from the future. He runs a 9.66 Zeta flop (air cooled)

[Frederic Brillouet]

I could ask my mate from the future. He runs a 9.66 Zeta flop (air cooled)
I think I know that guy too :icon_lol:

[mitchellds]

Holy crap, there is some French dude putting out 374,519 avg credits a day in Cosmo. He's slacking on his wine and cheese budget, and spending his franc's on cpu cycles instead.

[Frederic Brillouet]

As of the year 2000, they are euros :icon_lol:

[mitchellds]

oh yeah, forgot about that. Been a couple of years since I was there..

[AMDave]

You are all thinking small.
What we need is a hostile take-over strategy, retrench the staff and keep the hardware.:icon_twisted:

Phfffft!
I have got to stop watching the business channel.:icon_rolleyes:

[Frederic Brillouet]

You are all thinking small.
What we need is a hostile take-over strategy, retrench the staff and keep the hardware.:icon_twisted:

Phfffft!
I have got to stop watching the business channel.:icon_rolleyes:
I just need a pharm of 40 quads (alas intels I have to say)