Tanpaku Server?

[Bender10]

So what's up with Tanpaku?

Their website has a message that the server went down on August 18, and is under repair.....

:dontknow:

[mitchellds]

I guess this project is never coming back it seems.

[AMDave]

Unfortunately it would seem that way.
The Takeda Lab website appears to be off line

I addition to that the Yamato Lab website includes some text (http://www.rs.noda.tus.ac.jp/%7Ebiost/OPFU/yama/public_html/study/folding/folding.htm) that "sort of" implies that they are moving on to a subsequent stage of study:


http://www.rs.noda.tus.ac.jp/%7Ebiost/OPFU/yama/public_html/gif/present.gif FCANAL: Structure based protein function prediction method (http://atgc002.ps.noda.tus.ac.jp/contents/fcanal/) http://www.rs.noda.tus.ac.jp/%7Ebiost/OPFU/yama/public_html/gif/FCANAL_logo.jpg (http://atgc002.ps.noda.tus.ac.jp/contents/fcanal/)http://www.rs.noda.tus.ac.jp/%7Ebiost/OPFU/yama/public_html/gif/new.gif

Genome science nowadays provides us whole sets of genetic information of living organisms and the primary amino acid sequences of such gene products are available. The three dimensional structure prediction methods from protein amino acid sequences are now going to be developed. Thus, we developed FCANAL: Structure based protein function prediction method (http://atgc002.ps.noda.tus.ac.jp/contents/fcanal/). Then the in silico biology (http://www.rs.noda.tus.ac.jp/%7Ebiost/OPFU/yama/public_html/study/folding/insilico/insilico.htm) is going to start now, which implies the prediction series from primary sequences to three dimensional structures (TANPAKU project (http://issofty17.is.noda.tus.ac.jp/)), to functions (qualitative (FCANAL (http://atgc002.ps.noda.tus.ac.jp/contents/fcanal/)) and quantitative (Free Energy Calculation (http://www.rs.noda.tus.ac.jp/%7Ebiost/OPFU/yama/public_html/study/folding/insilico/insilico.htm#FEP)), and finally to systems (http://www.rs.noda.tus.ac.jp/%7Ebiost/OPFU/yama/public_html/study/folding/insilico/insilico.htm#system).
this text snippet is not dated, but the last update of that site seems to coincide with other related events:

08/04/12:2008 version (by I. Yamato)

Without a response from the project stakeholder directly, it is another case of "time will tell".

[Murray]

I think it is incredibly unethical to just close a project like that. It is inconsiderate to the crunchers who have used their own crunching power and electricity bills to fund research...only to be dropped into the dark at the whim of the projects managers.

Projects that don't communicate with their members or leave them in the lurch like this should be boycotted or penalized in some way!

[vaughan]

I agree with you Murray.

For a project and its admin to be granted BOINC status should be a privilege. It is a fundamental flaw in the open-source nature of the BOINC software that any person with the appropriate skills and time can create a BOINC project, suck in our time and CPU power / electricity. Then on a whim they can move on and leave us diehard DC'ers in the lurch.

[sentient_life]

The admins behind Predictor@Home and APS@Home could use a swift kick to the #@(*&%, also.

[Murray]

The admins behind Predictor@Home and APS@Home could use a swift kick to the #@(*&%, also.


I agree with you Murray.

For a project and its admin to be granted BOINC status should be a privilege. It is a fundamental flaw in the open-source nature of the BOINC software that any person with the appropriate skills and time can create a BOINC project, suck in our time and CPU power / electricity. Then on a whim they can move on and leave us diehard DC'ers in the lurch.

I reckon we should have a rating system...a page with all the projects listed and then ranked on how long their WUs are, how communicative they are, how stable their WUs and clients are, whether or not they could be using this information for personal or unethical gain (i.e. earning $$$ for new primes found) and how well they treat their crunchers...that way we can warn new crunchers and focus our attention away from the projects mentioned above and Sztaki etc... that do not respect the donation we are making.

What do you all think?

Regards,
Murray

[Frederic Brillouet]

I'm with Murray

[S. Starbuck]

I agree, I think something like that would be useful.

[Nflight]

I am late in the conversation but, I too am with Murray's idea ! :blob3:

[NeoGen]

So... the same "server crash" message still persists on their website, after all these months, and there hasn't been any other news...

I vote for moving this forum to the retired section, while I start typing the project in the wiki.

What do you guys think?

[vaughan]

Yes. Another one bites the dust.

[sentient_life]

Perhaps, APS's and Predictor's forums/stats should be retired, too. There have been no admin response from either of them since July of last year!

[AMDave]

I'll second that.
Well, all 3 of them actually :)