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Nflight
11-24-2008, 03:26 PM
Christmas Quest Contest
Ladies & Gentleman,

One of our gracious Team Mates has offered this fine system below as a prize for running in this Contest…!!!! I have the system below he'd like to offer as a prize for this race:

What’s included:
Dual CPU and dual core 2216 2.4 GHz Opteron based Asus Quadfather motherboard with 4gb of DDR2 memory, and two decent after market cpu coolers. He’s been running this system for probably 2 years, and its been rock solid.

What’s not included:
A power supply,
A video card,
A CPU case.
A hard drive.

(He'll include screen shots and cpu-z screen shots of it running later)

So here's the idea in a nutshell for a short Christmas contest run for Dec 2008.


Rules to running this race!

1) Primegrid Boinc is the project of choice. You choice of OS to run, Windoze or IX.

2) Only up to (1) AMD dual core system can compete, no quads, no Intel’s, and no other cpu types, no exceptions.

3) Contest will be based on a users specific Primegrid computer id, and this computer you wish to contest with cannot be hidden by the project. It must be in full view of the Primegrid stats for everyone to see.

4) The computer id must be posted back to the contest forum when you announce your intention to compete. Only one system per user will be allowed in the contest. Overclock all you like.

5) You must have been a registered AMD user for at least one month prior to the contest start. 12/1/08.

6) The winner will have accumulated the most points on their specific previously posted computer id for the month of December, ending with the last projects posted xml output of crunch efforts. This will of course be based on your computer-id’s end total points minus your starting total, which will yield your months output.


Interested in participating please post on this thread your intentions so that Race Officials can start the due process of gathering the id's of said participants crunchers.



LETS GO RACING

mitchellds
11-24-2008, 03:41 PM
Thanks Nflight !

Bender10
11-25-2008, 12:56 PM
I'll play..........Oooops.

Host Id = 28736

mitchellds
11-25-2008, 03:42 PM
Our first contestant! Come on down..

Please post the primegrid computer_id you plan to race with.

Danish Dynamite
11-25-2008, 04:20 PM
i will run this comp 79108 (http://www.primegrid.com/show_host_detail.php?hostid=79108)

mitchellds
11-25-2008, 05:08 PM
I gotcha both tagged in my spreadsheet.

liuqyn
11-25-2008, 05:28 PM
I can't pass up a race, so just for fun put 65288 (http://www.primegrid.com/show_host_detail.php?hostid=65288) in for me.

mitchellds
11-25-2008, 05:54 PM
gotcha, 3rd racer recorded.

Nflight
11-25-2008, 06:49 PM
Me too I am in 88625 (http://www.primegrid.com/show_host_detail.php?hostid=88625)

mitchellds
11-25-2008, 07:02 PM
gotcha tagged

vaughan
11-25-2008, 11:16 PM
I'll try this one 65896 (http://www.primegrid.com/show_host_detail.php?hostid=65896) but I'm trying to get another on-line in time for the start of the race so I might need to switch (obeying Rule #4).

mitchellds
11-25-2008, 11:51 PM
I gotcha listed.

BlackAdder
11-26-2008, 12:46 AM
I'm in computer # 88946 (http://www.primegrid.com/show_host_detail.php?hostid=88946)

ahh....where are the rules ???

BlackAdder
11-26-2008, 12:53 AM
Sorry...should have looked for the rules...I merged my computers and the Opteron is the only one showing, my account with prime Grid goes back to 07 if that matters. :)

mitchellds
11-26-2008, 01:24 AM
gotcha listed

txt.file
11-27-2008, 02:54 AM
I want to race for the computer. 89037 (http://primegrid.com/show_host_detail.php?hostid=89037) is my system.

shotgunner101
11-27-2008, 06:04 AM
Ok I will be competeing I guess and afterwards will go back to the roseta run we were going to do.

USERIID:7460
Computerid:89043 (http://www.primegrid.com/show_host_detail.php?hostid=89043)

Jason1478963
11-27-2008, 02:16 PM
Thanks for the interesting contest. This is the computer that will be run for the race.

USERID: 32134
ComputerID:89068

vaughan
11-27-2008, 07:59 PM
Update:

I'd like to switch PCs and race with this little number please:

89060 (http://www.primegrid.com/show_host_detail.php?hostid=89060)

meshmar
11-27-2008, 10:21 PM
I'm in = http://www.primegrid.com/show_host_detail.php?hostid=89110

Nflight
11-28-2008, 12:05 AM
Update:

I'd like to switch PCs and race with this little number please:

89060 (http://www.primegrid.com/show_host_detail.php?hostid=89060)

What he said but I want to switch to 88626 (http://www.primegrid.com/show_host_detail.php?hostid=88626)
A little tweaking here, and a little tweaking there, means I will need more speed and higher claimed credits to win.

Imagine a car with a 4cylinder engine turbo charged, now I moved up to a V8 code named Windsor 351, If I could only find a Cleveland 351 in storage and bring it out to play~? :icon_twisted:

vaughan
11-28-2008, 12:54 AM
code named Windsor
Hey Nflight that's the name of my new CPU. Such serendipity. :icon_wink:

mitchellds
11-28-2008, 02:15 AM
I used to have a 351 windsor in my old 1969 mustang mach 1. Got my first ticket in that car. 105 in a 25.

NeoGen
11-28-2008, 02:18 PM
Here's my number: 32532 (http://www.primegrid.com/show_host_detail.php?hostid=32532)



AuthenticAMD
AMD Athlon(tm) 64 X2 Dual Core Processor 4400+ [x86 Family 15 Model 107 Stepping 1]


It's not a big rig, but it's enough to have some fun :)

mitchellds
11-28-2008, 03:16 PM
Ok, I got everybody listed. Neogen, when I have the final tally I'll zap you this spreadsheet. Looks like only 11 racers so far.

shotgunner101
11-28-2008, 06:25 PM
SO the race starts at 12:01 am 12/1/2008 right?

liuqyn
11-28-2008, 09:09 PM
lets make it 12:01:08 on 12/01/08

shotgunner101
11-29-2008, 02:45 AM
I hope I have a chance at winning I took all the steps I could to increase my chances by overclocking and stuff but I know some of the main guys on here have to know more about it than me. Anyways good luck all I hope I win I could use the hardware :).

mitchellds
11-29-2008, 04:31 PM
you've got a couple of days to brush up on OC'ing your particular setup. Just get yourself some good cooling and ramp it up. Here's a good place for info:
http://www.xtremesystems.org/forums/forumdisplay.php?f=58

best of luck in the contest.

Nflight
11-30-2008, 03:34 PM
Which time zone are we going to mark the start of the race ? Since the people involved are spread over the entire planet this would be wise!

I agree with Liuqyn 12 01 08 is the date and starting time, but is that GMT or UTC, Because I am in GMT -5; I will need to know when to drop my gazillion work units, or was that 2 gazillion, who knows its a huge bunch.

Time specifics Please... :icon_rolleyes: :icon_lol:

Danish Dynamite
11-30-2008, 05:12 PM
i assumed it was the time of the project which can be found here (http://www.primegrid.com/server_status.php)

shotgunner101
11-30-2008, 07:03 PM
Lol I wish I would have seen this thread as soon as it was made I could have had 2 more days of workunits to add to the dump lol. Anyways good luck nfight cant wait to see who wins :).

NeoGen
11-30-2008, 07:37 PM
I was thinking of starting the stats fetches at midnight GMT as all past contests have been, but liuqyn's idea was pretty neat (12:01:08 of 12/01/08). I can start it at anytime really, because 12/01 is a holiday, I'll be all day home. :icon_wink:

Is everybody ok with it? :)

BlackAdder
11-30-2008, 09:30 PM
GMT is fine with me..... :)

NeoGen
11-30-2008, 10:19 PM
You mean 00:00 (midnight) GMT or 12:01:08 (1 m 8 s past noon) GMT? :)

liuqyn
11-30-2008, 10:22 PM
doh... good point. in the end it really doesn't matter.

NeoGen
11-30-2008, 10:31 PM
The Primegrid clock seems to be in sync with UTC/GMT so if I follow their clock I'll just have to pick which time numbers to use. :)

I prefer shotgunner/liuqyn's idea, it's pretty cool. But if there's more people ready to flush right away, we can use midnight.

In any case, I advise everyone *not* to flush workunits until we got all our dates and times right. :icon_wink:

mitchellds
12-01-2008, 12:26 AM
midnight GMT sounds good to me.

NeoGen
12-01-2008, 12:31 AM
Hmm... I'm noticing that some people have flushed past midnight, so in order to not hurt anyone's stats, I better start the data collection earlier rather than later.

I was kind of guessing this would happen so I downloaded a copy of the stats xml's at midnight (GMT). :icon_mrgreen:


Go racers!! Flush those caches!
:wav:

shotgunner101
12-01-2008, 02:18 AM
Well I have an hour and a half and then I am going to flush :). Anyways good luck guys I think we all got a good chance at winning :).

Jason1478963
12-01-2008, 02:23 AM
any predictions on the winner yet?

shotgunner101
12-01-2008, 02:25 AM
I think Nflight will win as he probably was saving WU's ever since the first day they decided to do the contest.

mitchellds
12-01-2008, 02:26 AM
yup, this should be pretty close, unless someone has some:

Ramjet
12-01-2008, 02:35 AM
I predict the winner will be the person who has the most points.:icon_lol:

mitchellds
12-01-2008, 02:39 AM
speaking of which, are you in Ramjet?

How about you Frederic Brillouet ?

Ramjet
12-01-2008, 02:50 AM
speaking of which, are you in Ramjet?

How about you Frederic Brillouet ?

Actually I have one entered, but my stats all show up under Jason's as we started together when he lived at home, and just left it that way.

mitchellds
12-01-2008, 02:56 AM
ah, gotcha.

NeoGen
12-01-2008, 03:16 AM
I'm still waiting for the big flushes. :icon_razz:
Only a handful of people released their workunits yet.

Either that or something's wrong with my data fetching code... hmm... I'll double check it just to make sure.


any predictions on the winner yet?

mitchellds
12-01-2008, 03:18 AM
Hey Neogen,

where you gonna make a race stats page?

shotgunner101
12-01-2008, 03:34 AM
30 minutes and Ill flush I was afraid of slushing too early so waiting till 12:01 and then going to flush :). Anyways I will probably have a couple 1000 credits seeing as I did about 5 days worth of work or so :).

liuqyn
12-01-2008, 03:37 AM
don't expect a flush from me, didn't even download my first unit until this afternoon.

NeoGen
12-01-2008, 03:50 AM
Hey Neogen,

where you gonna make a race stats page?

I haven't created it yet, but I'll get it online in a few hours. Right now I must have some sleep. :)

mitchellds
12-01-2008, 03:51 AM
cool, gotcha, me to.

NeoGen
12-01-2008, 04:10 AM
Shotgunner... did you use the correct host for that large cache of work? (89043)

I'm only seeing less than 100 workunits on it. :(



30 minutes and Ill flush I was afraid of slushing too early so waiting till 12:01 and then going to flush :). Anyways I will probably have a couple 1000 credits seeing as I did about 5 days worth of work or so :).

shotgunner101
12-01-2008, 05:04 AM
Yeah its the correct host I hadnt done primegrid on this pc until about a week ago. I was on ab@home trying to get to 200000 lol. Anyways the website seems to be currently having connection issues so Idk what is going on. Lol you do know that about 99% of all my total credits are from this one pc :P.

Danish Dynamite
12-01-2008, 06:15 AM
it appears that prime grids validation isnt too happy at the moment (1 Dec 2008 7:13:02 UTC) only has 573,175 Workunits waiting for validation, all of the ones i have dumped are in pending credits

edit
573,150 Workunits waiting for validation 1 Dec 2008 7:21:09 UTC it is getting there slowly lol at least it is heading in the right direction lol

shotgunner101
12-01-2008, 06:17 AM
Yeah myn are too how gay 2500 pending credits........

Danish Dynamite
12-01-2008, 06:41 AM
i have Pending credit: 1,144.59 worth of TPS llr workunits, how did you manage to get 2500 pending credits ?

Ramjet
12-01-2008, 10:55 AM
Alright, which one of you guys shut my power off last night?........anyone?............anyone?.......... ......Buehler?................Buehler?............ .Oh, alright it must have been the snowstorm then. :icon_twisted: I guess you guys are all in the clear. That ought to give you's a little advantage. Good Luck to all! I'd say that prolly drops me out...but it's a long race yet. :icon_wink:

shotgunner101
12-01-2008, 12:57 PM
I ran the client 24/7 for 4 days after i saw their was a race and my pc is overclocked so :).

NeoGen
12-01-2008, 01:06 PM
Well, we contacted primegrid's admin Rytis before the contest, so at least he was warned that this could happen. :icon_razz:


it appears that prime grids validation isnt too happy at the moment (1 Dec 2008 7:13:02 UTC) only has 573,175 Workunits waiting for validation, all of the ones i have dumped are in pending credits

edit
573,150 Workunits waiting for validation 1 Dec 2008 7:21:09 UTC it is getting there slowly lol at least it is heading in the right direction lol

NeoGen
12-01-2008, 02:07 PM
I'm kind of disappointed with Primegrid's validation... by the numbers I have, you guys flushed over 2500 WUs in the first 12 hours of contest, but only 31 have been granted.

I haven't created the stats page yet, I'll wait a few more hours to see if this gets better. The only one with granted credit (the 31 WUs) at the time was shotgunner101.

shotgunner101
12-01-2008, 05:33 PM
It looks like the validater is working again it has given me 1500 of my 2500 credits so :). Anyways looks like its a close race so far.

meshmar
12-01-2008, 08:04 PM
It finally gave me over 3K credits, so maybe it's finally working. Hope it says that way.

NeoGen
12-02-2008, 02:24 AM
I am still readying the stats guys, I need a few more hours. :icon_neutral:

The validator seems to be picking up speed indeed, but that brought me another problem that I wasn't aware of at the time. Workunits from other subprojects that were probably pending for some time started to trickle into the hosts credits, which messed up the numbers "a little". (for example, the totals showing an average of 20 credits/WU)

So I have created a routine to validate every workunit to make sure it's TPS only and discard other kinds. The problem is that it's taking a few hours to go through the >3000 WUs you guys already crunched. :)

meshmar
12-02-2008, 03:40 AM
Workunits from other subprojects that were probably pending for some time started to trickle into the hosts credits, which messed up the numbers "a little". (for example, the totals showing an average of 20 credits/WU)

So I have created a routine to validate every workunit to make sure it's TPS only and discard other kinds.

TPS only? Where did that come from? I have mine set for 64-bit apps with a fallback to others if the 64-bit apps aren't available, which means NONE of mine are TPS.

Rules to running this race!

1) Primegrid Boinc is the project of choice. You choice of OS to run, Windoze or IX.

no mention of a specific project here

6) The winner will have accumulated the most points on their specific previously posted computer id for the month of December, ending with the last projects posted xml output of crunch efforts. This will of course be based on your computer-id’s end total points minus your starting total, which will yield your months output.

Again, no specific project, just " last projects crunch efforts"

Ramjet
12-02-2008, 10:54 AM
I didn't see that anywhere in the rules either, I was running mostly woodall, (I think that's what it's called) or whatever it would send me. :(

AMDave
12-02-2008, 11:14 AM
You are right!
Although it was discussed in the prep-meetings, it is not in the top post here.

We will sort that out.
I am sure NeoGen has all the files and can remove the TPS filter.
He is not online a.t.m. but we will get this to him a.s.a.p.

Just keep crunching the way you are crunching.
And good luck everyone

(wishing I had an X2 handy.)

NeoGen
12-02-2008, 02:44 PM
I'm back guys! :)

Oooh boy... big mess I did here I guess. I was really under the impression that it was TPS only. :icon_redface:

But fear not everyone, for I am a Database master, and one rule is to never ever delete anything. :icon_lol:

I have the backlog of all workunits crunched by you guys since the start, the filter I added was only a field called "isTPS", with values "true" and "false". And when calculating I checked if "isTPS" is "true" then sum, else skip to the next. That's all it takes. :icon_wink:

I will take out the filter and sum everything up then. And maybe tonight I'll finally put up the stats page! Yay! :)

Ramjet
12-02-2008, 09:32 PM
Finally! Back up and running...the power outages seemed to have corrupted my hdd, had to reinstall everything and start over, thankfully my device ID didn't change so I can still compete. Been down since sunday night so I probably don't have a chance of winning now, but it will still be fun to see what the old Opty can do. :) Still haven't gotten my finished wu's validated, what's up with that?

NeoGen
12-03-2008, 07:38 AM
I didn't have time to create the stats page yet, but I got the numbers all here. I'll at least post them to keep you guys up to date. :)

As of 4:30 am of 12/03/2008, time when the stats were fetched by the batch job, the results were the following

1- meshmar (3,669.95)
2- shotgunner101 (3,650.85)
3- Nflight (2,051.75)
4- Danish Dinamyte (1,993.75)
5- liuqyn (1,492.05)
6- vaughan (1,444.20)
7- Bender10 (820.70)
8- txt.file (330.87)
9- NeoGen (46.4)
10- Jason1478963 (4.35)
11- BlackAdder (0)


BalckAdder... isn't your host 88946? I'm not getting any workunit from that host.

Danish Dynamite
12-03-2008, 08:36 AM
i helped find a prime 53507415579*2^333333-1 was only double checker thou

BlackAdder
12-03-2008, 09:47 AM
Neo...my Opteron's ID is 89138 , maybe I didn't copy it correctly ???

BlackAdder
12-03-2008, 09:49 AM
Neo, 88946 is a XP2500 that I shut off to conserve electricity...

shotgunner101
12-03-2008, 05:04 PM
woohoo the race is close can't wait to see who wins :).

NeoGen
12-03-2008, 06:15 PM
Neo...my Opteron's ID is 89138 , maybe I didn't copy it correctly ???

Yup, I checked with the list of hosts that mitchell sent me, and we both have that old host id on our lists.

But you are very lucky because I managed to rescue workunits from this other host as old as of Nov 28, which means you're back up and running with 700+ credits accounted for. (60+ WUs) :)

It probably may not be as much as you had cached before the contest, because Primegrid recycles the older workunits regularly to free space, but at least it gives you a jumpstart to 8th place. :icon_wink:

NeoGen
12-03-2008, 06:18 PM
Hmm... I think I just broke the rule about changing hosts in mid contest... but it's for a good reason. Am I a nice guy or what? :icon_wink: :icon_lol:

It's all in the Christmas spirit. :icon_santa:

meshmar
12-03-2008, 06:56 PM
woohoo the race is close can't wait to see who wins :).

It looks like it's going to be real close. I'm already on pins and needles. :icon_santa:

shotgunner101
12-03-2008, 08:25 PM
Lol howd you get your processor to a higher clock than mine lol. I got a quad core cooler but cant get over 3000mhz per core without failure to boot.

meshmar
12-03-2008, 09:29 PM
Lol howd you get your processor to a higher clock than mine lol. I got a quad core cooler but cant get over 3000mhz per core without failure to boot.


I'm using an Athlon 64 X2 5000+ Brisbane Black Edition Processor on a MSI K9AGM3-FIH motherboard with this cooler http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16835200036 and 2 sticks of cas 4 memory. I could actually go a little higher than I have it right now ... if I have to. The 64 bit linux may be a factor too.

Ramjet
12-03-2008, 10:24 PM
Question for all racers...I posted a while back about the snowstorm knocking our power out which crashed my hdd. :BangHead: I had to reinstall everything and start over, and it looked like it used the same computer host ID, but evidently it created a new one. :( I tried to merge the new one to the old one, but instead just the opposite happened, merged the old one to the new ID. I've already lost 1 1/2 days of crunching but I'd still like to be in the race. How would you guys feel about letting me use that ID? If not, I understand, rules are rules.:sad5: :dontknow:

BlackAdder
12-03-2008, 10:41 PM
Hi Ramjet, what your suggesting doesn't hurt my feelings. I've had to format under similar conditions myself.... anyone else have a opinion ??

mitchellds
12-03-2008, 10:50 PM
seems fine to me. but lets hear if anyone else in the race has any objections.

Nflight
12-03-2008, 10:51 PM
I am ok with it.... more people to comment please!

NeoGen
12-03-2008, 11:21 PM
My host id also got wiped just this morning after I formatted the PC. :-(
I was careful to keep a copy of all the boinc folders, and all the stuff, but I forgot to give the same name to the machine again and I think that's what made it not recognize the same host id after.

I'm ok with it and I'll even join Ramjet too, and change my own host number if no one minds. :)

Ramjet, what is the new host id? You are running with the machine under Jason's name right?

liuqyn
12-03-2008, 11:22 PM
this early in the race and given the circumstances, I have no objection.

Ramjet
12-03-2008, 11:33 PM
Ramjet, what is the new host id? You are running with the machine under Jason's name right?[/QUOTE]

Thanks guys for understanding first of all, the new host id is http://www.primegrid.com/show_host_detail.php?hostid=89860
Boy, another 6 inches of snow today, we are now double our average for this year. I don't know if I will be able to keep this thing running for a whole month straight. :icon_redface: I guess if the new host id is a go, I'll have to play with the OC and see if I can do some catching up. My poor opty already has a pretty orange glow to it. :icon_mrgreen:

Ramjet
12-03-2008, 11:41 PM
Ramjet, what is the new host id? You are running with the machine under Jason's name right?[/QUOTE]

Thanks guys for understanding first of all, the new host id is http://www.primegrid.com/show_host_detail.php?hostid=89860
Boy, another 6 inches of snow today, we are now double our average for this year. I don't know if I will be able to keep this thing running for a whole month straight. :icon_redface: I guess if the new host id is a go, I'll have to play with the OC and see if I can do some catching up. My poor opty already has a pretty orange glow to it. :icon_mrgreen:

vaughan
12-04-2008, 01:02 AM
No problem; good luck Ramjet and NeoGen.

Don't you just hate re-installs? :icon_twisted:

Ramjet
12-04-2008, 01:11 AM
Absolutely, I can hold my own when Windows crashes, but I'm as green as can be with Linux, I can put the disk in and click Install, but when problems arise like I just had, I am lost, it's a whole new world....thus the day and a half to get back up and running. :icon_redface:

NeoGen
12-04-2008, 02:10 AM
Stats snapshot! :icon_mrgreen:

1. meshmar - 5,451.90
2. shotgunner101 - 4,264.20
3. Danish Dynamite - 2,851.50
4. Nflight - 2,750.60
5. vaughan - 2,391.10
6. liuqyn - 2,063.40
7. Bender10 - 1,149.90
8. BlackAdder - 703.69
9. txt.file - 596.01
10. Jason1478963 - 215.48
11. NeoGen - 47.85

I still haven't gathered all the info and design for the contest webpage... I need some more free time.

Ramjet... the "Jason1478963" up there is already with the new ID. :icon_wink:

Ramjet
12-04-2008, 02:22 AM
Ok, thanks Neo, looks like we better put the petal to the metal, we have a long way to go to catch Meshmar:shocked:

shotgunner101
12-04-2008, 03:24 AM
Yeah I got cheap ram 2gb and im on the 32 bit windows aswell so lol my mobo is a nforce 590 so this could be a factor aswell :(.

mitchellds
12-04-2008, 04:06 AM
yup meshmar is starting to run away with it. They rest of you guys .. "We need more power Scotty" :icon_wink:

http://www.amateurscientist.org/2008/08/scotty-tries-to-give-her-more-power.html

vaughan
12-04-2008, 04:32 AM
OK all the TPS cached tasks have been crunched now so I'm on to the better scoring sub-project now. :icon_thumright:

shotgunner101
12-04-2008, 05:51 AM
Lol I believe I calculated which project pays the most creds but I will refuse to tell :). I hope this advantage in itself will allow me to catch up :0.

Danish Dynamite
12-04-2008, 08:15 AM
since everyone else is changing comp id's would it be okay for me to get comp running on kubuntu 64 bit which would create a new comp id which is unknown at this point in time ?

vaughan
12-04-2008, 12:15 PM
I don't have a problem with it. You will miss the first few days of the month long race if you change computers now. I guess you have allowed for that in your decision.

Bender10
12-04-2008, 12:41 PM
I'm good with the 'Ramjet Decision', run it.

So, on the topic of meshmar...:icon_twisted:... I guess I should be running BOTH cores of my X2 on this???

mitchellds
12-04-2008, 12:47 PM
yes Bender, both cores plus a 100% OC to let you catchup :icon_mrgreen:

meshmar
12-04-2008, 01:50 PM
I'm starting to feel paranoid - as if everyone was out to get me :sad5:

Maybe I should start tweaking a little more out of my BE :icon_twisted:

mitchellds
12-04-2008, 02:49 PM
heh heh, that's the problem with being on top, everyone wants to knock you off your perch. :rolleyes:

shotgunner101
12-04-2008, 04:38 PM
Well mefsher you dont have to worry about my even though I am the closest to you I wont catch up because my hardware reached its limits :(.

NeoGen
12-04-2008, 06:18 PM
There's always something more one can do to get that extra cpu cycle. Shut down unused windows services, disable fancy graphics, kill unnecessary processes, so many things can be done. :)
A dedicated crunching machine should be as lightweight as possible. Think of command line. :icon_wink:

Is is just me or the primegrid website is down?

Danish Dynamite
12-04-2008, 06:49 PM
I don't have a problem with it. You will miss the first few days of the month long race if you change computers now. I guess you have allowed for that in your decision.

no since it doesn't seem like anyone else is receiving that sort of disadvantage from changing comp ids

NeoGen
12-04-2008, 07:15 PM
Danish, I don't advise you to do that seeing that you're well placed on the rankings. Changing host id's like I did for Ramjet (and will do for myself tonight), resets the workunits and credits back to zero. That's what vaughan was talking about.
In both my case and Ramjet(Jason) there wasn't much of a loss, we both had computer problems right at start and didn't get many credits, but you are way ahead and running well.

Are you sure you want to change host id and lose the credits you've gained so far?

shotgunner101
12-04-2008, 07:32 PM
Hey Neo can you add the the updated race stats to your signature so we can see whos winning currently?

Note: This computer is not a dedicated crunching machine I do stuff on here while I crunch because its my only pc.

mitchellds
12-05-2008, 02:28 AM
Here's what your racing for: :icon_santa:

NeoGen
12-05-2008, 03:26 AM
Hey Neo can you add the the updated race stats to your signature so we can see whos winning currently?

Note: This computer is not a dedicated crunching machine I do stuff on here while I crunch because its my only pc.

The image was too big, but I added a link to it. Check out how meshmar is really turning on the nitro boost now! :)

Danish Dynamite
12-05-2008, 08:22 AM
Danish, I don't advise you to do that seeing that you're well placed on the rankings. Changing host id's like I did for Ramjet (and will do for myself tonight), resets the workunits and credits back to zero. That's what vaughan was talking about.
In both my case and Ramjet(Jason) there wasn't much of a loss, we both had computer problems right at start and didn't get many credits, but you are way ahead and running well.

Are you sure you want to change host id and lose the credits you've gained so far?

well phase 1 is in place
phase 2 install boinc
phase 3 swap ram with phenom (800 mhz for 1066 mhz)
phase 4 install amd 6000+ and oc
phase 5 advise new client id
phase 6 win comp lol :P

shotgunner101
12-05-2008, 03:30 PM
Lol I iwhs I wasnt afraid to overrite my exitising linux because last time I tried I had the quickest format on record............

Ramjet
12-05-2008, 08:43 PM
Holy Crap Meshmar, you're gonna have to back her down a little and taunt the rest of us, we can't even see your taillights any more! :)

Nflight
12-05-2008, 09:14 PM
I hate to say this but the server at primegrid is down again, I can't report my gazillion work units! Which means meshmar keeps leading dag nabbit! :sad5:

meshmar
12-05-2008, 11:12 PM
Holy Crap Meshmar, you're gonna have to back her down a little and taunt the rest of us, we can't even see your taillights any more! :)

Now that I'm properly paranoid, I don't think I need to get into line of sight to let any of you get off a rail gun shot. :qleft7: :icon_twisted:

Nflight
12-05-2008, 11:15 PM
Meshmar please don't take offense to all this jabbering, its all in jest! :)

Lighten up, if your were not doing so good at leading, the rest of us would have no one to pick on! :icon_wink:

Ramjet
12-05-2008, 11:30 PM
I'm not having much luck with the Primegrid server either, I spent two days crunching on one of those Woodall wu's, even longer waiting to validate it, estimated credit was 862, and actual credit was a big fat Zero!:cussing: I don't think anybody is gonna be seeing me in their rearview mirror, I think I'm still sitting at 253 credit . :-( Looks like I'm gonna have to stick one foot in the carburator and push with the other to even make a showing! But this is a great race, who ever came up with the one dual core each? That really makes it interesting. :icon_thumright:

shotgunner101
12-05-2008, 11:59 PM
Doesnt make it too interresting some of us have limited hardware lol If i had better ram and a better mobo my overclock should be somewhere around 3.3 ghz per core but 3.0 ghz is my limit per core :(.

meshmar
12-06-2008, 12:34 AM
I'm not taking anything personally.

What's sad is the box I competing with is my maxed out cruncher. I've been wanting a better system, but on a fixed income upgrades or new boxes are few and far between. Maybe I'll have something to slip into that empty server case when this is over.

vaughan
12-06-2008, 12:44 AM
I'm not having much luck with the Primegrid server either, I spent two days crunching on one of those Woodall wu's, even longer waiting to validate it, estimated credit was 862, and actual credit was a big fat Zero!:cussing: I don't think anybody is gonna be seeing me in their rearview mirror, I think I'm still sitting at 253 credit . :-( Looks like I'm gonna have to stick one foot in the carburator and push with the other to even make a showing! But this is a great race, who ever came up with the one dual core each? That really makes it interesting. :icon_thumright:
So the take home message is - avoid those Woodall tasks. :icon_wink:

Personally, I have found the TPS tasks are quick (sub 5 minutes) but only yield about 14-15 points per hour. The PPS_LLR tasks take a bit longer (about 5-6 minutes each) and yield about 25 points per hour. The best points however seem to come from PSP Sieve tasks (PSP_sr2sieve) which take about 55 minutes each and yield about 45 points per hour.

This was under Windows XP Pro 64bit with an Athlon64 X2 6000+ @ 3.23 GHz with 4GB DDR2 1066 Corsair dominator ram.
As always YMMV. :)

Nflight
12-06-2008, 12:52 AM
My way of upping the output, from my point of view no less.

For every work unit I noticed that for TPS Prime Grid the work units are just 6 minutes 20 seconds long ~. To get more crunching time on the work units and not the communications between the time done and the time sent then report each unit when completed. I decided to turn off Network Activity till a gazillion of work units are finished. This allows the system to work effectively at what I am after = large deposits of completed work units. I breifly turn on the network activity selector and then upload the gazillion WU's. Once they are uploaded then I report them with the update button, as soon as the update is over I click the network activity to ssuspended once again and with that I do not download with each reporting only when I have reached my end of work units and it looks like I won't reach 24 hours in a day of crunching then I allow the work units to download over the coarse of 30 minutes or so and back off the network activity again.

Yes this is more work to accomplish the same goal and it also means someone will have to be available to nurse the system through its paces. IF you can download 2000 work units as some have told me great I am only able to download 500 per core.

The job gets down and I get to stay up in the high numbers of reported stats. So this is how I am cheating. I also uninstalled every program that is not needed in my system I am running for the project. Less trickle of access for those pesky programs the better and more time spent on crunching the work units to win that ellustrious over powered mitchellds machine.

Why did I tell you this, well I hate the idea when people wonder how someone is better then you are when they have less of a machine then you do.

May the best man win ! :icon_wink::icon_mrgreen: :sad5: My Liquid Nitrogen was delivered today, the cask it sits in has a fog that falls to the floor, very interesting to observe in the darkened basement dungeon I exist in. ~snicker snicker

NeoGen
12-06-2008, 02:13 AM
It is this weekend that I will post the REAL stats pages, instead of just the snapshot.

I've been working on it bits and pieces every day on the spare time, and I must say, these is the most detailed stats work I ever done for a contest! :icon_mrgreen:

You will be surprised with the ammount of info I've been collecting from your machines. :icon_twisted:

p.s. - Another update to the stats snapshot in the sig. Meshmar is almost at 10K credits and the second place competitor is around half of it. C'mon guys, put that second core to work! :icon_lol:

meshmar
12-06-2008, 11:38 AM
Someone must have a 64-bit system out there!

Opt in to run Proth Prime (You must have 64-bit Linux or Window) and then run the PPS Sieve. That's what's giving me the big advantage right now, I think. I don't have a maxed out OC running. It's actually rather conservative and well within the range of some of the other systems I'm competing against. Come on ... make me work for this.

shotgunner101
12-06-2008, 12:33 PM
I guess I can always try to catch up ill be attempting to increase my chances later after I get back from helping the church build its deck.

shotgunner101
12-07-2008, 12:36 AM
Well it appears isntalling linux made my computer id different for future wus
my new id is 90194 neo as you can tell they are the same exact processor just so you can se efor yourself. Sorry for the incovenience...... Mesfer I am going to try my best to catch up with you :).

meshmar
12-07-2008, 11:42 AM
It looks like your specs are pretty close to mine, now. Both cpus are running at 3GHz, but I still have a slight advantage because of my faster memory.

I really thought I would have to push the cpu harder to be competitive. I've had it up to 3.3 GHz (higher multiplier) with the memory and fsb tweaked about 10%, so I still have some to spare if I need it.

NeoGen
12-07-2008, 09:28 PM
I finally got the huge stats sheet ready for examination! :)
Take a look guys

http://neogen.amdusers.com/contest2008/xmascontest.htm


As you all can see, PSP Sieve is the way to go! Over 60 Credits/Hour! :)
But only few people tried so far. And I'm still to figure out why some people only get ~20/hour on it... maybe 32/64 bit difference?

NeoGen
12-07-2008, 09:45 PM
Well it appears isntalling linux made my computer id different for future wus
my new id is 90194 neo as you can tell they are the same exact processor just so you can se efor yourself. Sorry for the incovenience...... Mesfer I am going to try my best to catch up with you :).
I'll change it tonight, before the next update runs.

If one thing is revealed with this contest is that we all needed to tune our crunching machines. :)

shotgunner101
12-08-2008, 01:14 AM
see i didnt have a cunrnching os setup until now so now i got a 64bit system I will crunch using it to get 2x the credits :).

NeoGen
12-08-2008, 03:02 AM
Another update to the stats is online.
Check the links on my sig. :)

Vaughan is now actively chasing meshmar, at a speed of 72 Credits/Hour. :icon_lol:

shotgunner101
12-08-2008, 03:12 AM
Neogen what happened to my olds machines credits which I used my 32bit windows for and had 5-6k credits on why didnt it include them? It s hows me only at 1.1k credits I should be around 7k or so :(. Please include my old one so I can catchup to mesfer otherwise I will fail to even have a chance at this :(.

NeoGen
12-08-2008, 03:44 AM
Oh no... you have not been reading my earlier posts... :(
I thought by now everyone knew the penalty. You did not read this that I said to Danish Dynamite a couple days ago in this thread?


Danish, I don't advise you to do that seeing that you're well placed on the rankings. Changing host id's like I did for Ramjet (and will do for myself tonight), resets the workunits and credits back to zero. That's what vaughan was talking about.
In both my case and Ramjet(Jason) there wasn't much of a loss, we both had computer problems right at start and didn't get many credits, but you are way ahead and running well.

Are you sure you want to change host id and lose the credits you've gained so far?

shotgunner101
12-08-2008, 03:57 AM
Neo the problem was was I didnt have a choice their was no way to catch up with them with a 32bit systema nd using a different OS changed my computer id. Now I am no expert but can I merge pcs and it put all the credits over to the new one?

NeoGen
12-08-2008, 03:58 AM
Actually shotgunner101, I can rescue your credits, they're still in the system. But I don't know if the rest of the gang would be pleased with it. It would be breaking the rule. Mine and Ramjet's credits are lost for good by now, they've been recycled.

But on my behalf I wouldn't mind getting your credits back, and making it the rule to safekeep old credits before host switching. It wasn't initially thought that people would have to change hosts during contest.

Guys... please leave me your opinions... what should I do? Rescue credits or keep the rule?

shotgunner101
12-08-2008, 04:03 AM
Please people let me do it its the ONLY chance I have at catching the 2 leaders and I plan to sell the computer parts for a car if I win because I am 18 and still no car lol. PLEASE!!!!!! I spent 2 weeks on those 6k credits!!!!

meshmar
12-08-2008, 11:26 AM
I feel partially to blaim for his decision to switch OS, so I don't oppose the merge. It's obviously the same system - just a different OS.

vaughan
12-08-2008, 11:30 AM
...I plan to sell the computer parts for a car ...
What a waste of a perfectly good cruncher. :icon_twisted:

I am not pleased.

Nflight
12-08-2008, 11:34 AM
What a waste of a perfectly good cruncher. :icon_twisted:

I am not pleased.

As an avid fan of AMD Processors to rush out and sell this perfectly fine tuned machine for a mode of transportation. I am not in agreement for your upgrade and moving your points values. Your comments about the car have infuriated me. I don't get mad easy nor do I voice my dislikes very much, but that comment hurts me to my soul. ! :icon_mad:

NeoGen
12-08-2008, 01:09 PM
That was an unfortunate comment I guess. Shotgunner, if you hadn't said that maybe they would have agreed. :icon_rolleyes:

On other news, Meshmar, you might want to start working things out, vaughan and Jason are coming fast behind you. Check the last stats update. :)

shotgunner101
12-08-2008, 01:58 PM
See guys I am a avid AMD fan also but its either egt a car and get a job now or wait 6 months for me to build up the money without a job and then yet again not be able to go to college for another semester. And the main reason to get the job was to have side money to spend on hardware upgrades (phenmon processer,new mobo,new graphics cards,etc) But like I was trying to say what other use would them be to me when I have no money to even buy my own food right now my mom buys my food because I dont got a job........ Look guys its fine if you don't like what I would do with them but if I sold them to a home based computer store I know they would end up in perfectly good systems. Sorry to upset you guys :(. please let me have the credits though I spent 2 weeks on them and I have had my pc crunching 24/7 ever since 6 days before the contest....

And mesfer dont blame urself when you mentioned the 64bit system thing I went and had to install linux or else I knew I would lose. I just hope the amd people can see here I am an avid amd fan too and have NEVER used an Intel!!!!!!!!! I have been in this team for alittle over a year and crunched 200000 all from this machine so you can tell I am a cruncher aswell....... Look guys if you were in my position and for 2 years thought you would be getting a car 2 times in a row now the first time my mom was going to give me her car but a month before I was supposed to get it it got a cracked block. Next car I worked for a lady and helped tear her old trailer apart took 3 weeks to get it all done and she wouldn't give me the car and she couldn't pay me because she didn't make enough off of the copper. PLEASE let me have the creds PLEASE!!!

Brucifer
12-08-2008, 03:00 PM
A couple thoughts in passing here. I have been following this thread since it started as it has really been an enjoyable race to watch, up until the car/point issue cropped up anyway.

When I read shotguner101's note it was really rather a discouraging thing to me, not so much that a young guy is desperate for a car, but that if he did win the prize, it would be going towards something that the prize donor did not have in mind when he/she offered it as a gift/prize. The requirement that participants be an AMD_Users team member for a while preceding the event implies that the intent of the race and the winning prize was for it to go towards helping a team member achieve a crunching asset to be utilized for the benefit of that member and thus also help the team. The donor could have just given it to the local Salvation Army or other charitable entity if he/she was just trying to get rid of a system per se.

The second discouraging issue is that all the participants were given good faith rules and conditions at the beginning of the race. Other participants have lost points, yet went on participating in the race in good faith. It is only fair to them that the rules are upheld and an exception not be made for shotgunner101. Everyone has a tale of woe and misfortune, but everyone doesn't add a bunch of drama over it. It's called playing by the rules, and I've got to side with Vaughan and Nflight. Others did not get their points back so neither should shotgunner101.

shotgunner101
12-08-2008, 03:34 PM
Well Brucifer I respect what you said so considering I wont get my points back I will go back to casually crunching the WU's because linux can be annoying compared to windows in some respects with anything from Youtube problems and compatibility issues.

BlackAdder
12-08-2008, 06:50 PM
NeoGen...I'm for keeping the rules.

meshmar
12-08-2008, 07:48 PM
On other news, Meshmar, you might want to start working things out, vaughan and Jason are coming fast behind you. Check the last stats update. :)

You should see a little change starting today. I did mention that I had more room to tweak the cpu :icon_twisted:, well I tweaked it some. If needed, there is still a little room to push some more :5eek:

mitchellds
12-08-2008, 08:29 PM
Yes Brucifer, you hit the nail square on the head. I 100% agree with your post. The rules were posted that way for the obvious reasons and intentions, which you've surmised quite accurately.

Ramjet
12-08-2008, 09:38 PM
Brucifer, I know we've knocked heads a little in the past :BangHead:, but that was very well put my friend !!:icon_thumright:

NeoGen
12-09-2008, 02:04 AM
Another update to the stats! :)
Converted the CPU Times in seconds to hours, and added a crunch time percentage, which is the ammount of time the cpu has been crunching since the start of the contest. Some people have >100% CPU crunching time because this also counts the cached workunits before the contest.

Anybody got ideas of more info and stuff I could add to the stats? No need to mention the poor design of the page, the lack of web design capability is a bug in me. :icon_lol: :icon_rolleyes:

mitchellds
12-09-2008, 02:48 AM
wow Vaughan and Jason are in a tight race.

meshmar
12-09-2008, 05:36 AM
Looks like I may have to teask just a little more, but I'll give it a bit to see how it works out.

Danish Dynamite
12-09-2008, 08:41 AM
well i guess i should have played around with getting kubuntu amd64 8.10 working a bit more

shotgunner101
12-09-2008, 03:53 PM
Well next race Ill try to put up a better fight lol. I definatly wont change over host ids again next race lol.

liuqyn
12-09-2008, 04:26 PM
either that or learn how to move host id's between computers and to some extent to different os's.

NeoGen
12-09-2008, 06:16 PM
No need fellows. :)
I'm learning from this first experiment. Next race I'll plan ahead and have the system ready to switch hosts on-the-fly, or migrate workunits (and credits) from one to the other, and more.

Ramjet
12-09-2008, 06:23 PM
No need fellows. :)
I'm learning from this first experiment. Next race I'll plan ahead and have the system ready to switch hosts on-the-fly, or migrate workunits (and credits) from one to the other, and more.

Even if that were possible, Wouldn't that be against the rules?

Danish Dynamite
12-09-2008, 07:47 PM
Even if that were possible, Wouldn't that be against the rules?

that is what was suggested to me

meshmar
12-09-2008, 08:17 PM
Even if that were possible, Wouldn't that be against the rules?

Against the rules for this contest ... which is not saying the rules could be changed for the next one. Allowing OS changes or other changes can be accommodated if the rules allow it ...

NeoGen
12-09-2008, 08:29 PM
Exactly. Next time if we define those settings I'll be ready to make switches. :)

Speaking of which, new stats update! :)
Vaughan seems to have made a pit stop for fuel or new tires, the Crunch Time % dropped from 94% to 90%. What happened vaughan?

That was just enough for Jason to leap ahead with a few hundred points. And the distance to meshmar is getting shorter and shorter. :)

EDIT: oops... I meant 91%. Vaughan dropped to 91%

shotgunner101
12-09-2008, 08:57 PM
Well I think we should have a april race startting april 1st with the same requirements and stuff :0. To give us time to tweak our dual cores more :). And no unlesss someone offers something as a reward it would just be to see who crunches the most :p.

vaughan
12-09-2008, 09:52 PM
Vaughan seems to have made a pit stop for fuel or new tires, the Crunch Time % dropped from 94% to 90%. What happened vaughan?

I adjusted the turbo charger :icon_wink:

NeoGen
12-09-2008, 10:02 PM
Well I think we should have a april race startting april 1st with the same requirements and stuff :0. To give us time to tweak our dual cores more :). And no unlesss someone offers something as a reward it would just be to see who crunches the most :p.
Next time we could have for example 2 categories... duals and quads. :)

Or even make it 4 categories, duals and quads, from AMD and... that other company that doesn't have a "Users" Team like us. :icon_razz: :icon_lol:

Ramjet
12-09-2008, 10:08 PM
I adjusted the turbo charger :icon_wink:

Geesh, that's not what I needed to hear, I don't think I can get any more out of mine. My poor Opty went from a pretty orange glow to a bubbling orange/blue glob of molten silicon and steel. I am just praying she don't run out of gas before we cross the finish line! :evil6: Oops, I gotta run out for more dry ice. :5obsessed:

meshmar
12-09-2008, 10:26 PM
And the distance to meshmar is getting shorter and shorter. :)



Now that I've flushed the last of the PPS WUs, you should see the rate of approach decrease somewhat :icon_razz:.

:qgreenjumpers::qright5:


Since someone has decided to tune up his turbocharger, I may have to tweak a little harder.

BlackAdder
12-10-2008, 01:47 AM
No need for tune ups .... MY Opteron will crush you all...he he he ha ha ha ( fiendish laugh )

surrender now while you still can....

NeoGen
12-10-2008, 07:33 AM
New stats are up, now with minimum and maximum cpu times for workunits working, and a few other corrections. A few oddities appear, like some very short minimum times here and there, but those are real values found in (odd?) workunits.

Seems like meshmar shifted up a gear, but same did vaughan that already caught up and got ahead of Jason. We'll have to see in the next set of stats how the numbers evolve. :)

And in other news, we've just passed the 100K Credits milestone! These 11 machines alone have generated 105,154.94 Credits in 10 days. :icon_mrgreen:

meshmar
12-10-2008, 02:31 PM
Seems like meshmar shifted up a gear, but same did vaughan that already caught up and got ahead of Jason. We'll have to see in the next set of stats how the numbers evolve. :)

As long as I can maintain that 3K lead over Vaughan, I should be ok. Our crunch rate is very close right now, and I can always break out the Nitromethane for one last push if I need it ...

Just as an aside, I came across this in the forums:

" Prime Sierpinski Project (Sieve) Application builds (http://www.primegrid.com/apps.php) are available for Linux 32 & 64 bit and Windows 32 & 64 bit. Note: 64 bit Windows and 64 bit Linux benefit from a 1.5X speed advantage over 32 bit...so 1.5X the credit. :) "

That confirms that the 64 bit OS's give a speed advantage for PSP (sieve) ...

NeoGen
12-10-2008, 09:54 PM
Stats update! :)

This race is becoming very interesting between the top 3. :)
Meshmar, your 3K lead is down to 2.6K. Vaughan is crunching like if there's no tomorrow. :icon_twisted:

Ramjet
12-10-2008, 10:21 PM
Hmm, I was really counting on my 1,912.59 pending credit to help me catch up, but you guys are pulling away now, I feel like I'm stuck on a deserted island and you guys are sailing off into the sunset :sad5:

mitchellds
12-10-2008, 10:38 PM
yup, its looking like 3 of our contestants have got it really dialed in for a tight race down to the wire. And we're only about 33% of the way through the month !!

meshmar
12-11-2008, 12:39 AM
Stats update! :)

This race is becoming very interesting between the top 3. :)
Meshmar, your 3K lead is down to 2.6K. Vaughan is crunching like if there's no tomorrow. :icon_twisted:

Time for another small tweak :icon_twisted:

You're just going to force me to push things - aren't you?

vaughan
12-11-2008, 04:35 AM
I wonder how one of these new AMD dual core cpus might go in the Quest?
AMD Athlon X2 7750 black edition (http://amdvsintel.com/article/amds-athlon-x2-7750-black-edition.html)
Can anyone translate the Turkish language at www.Donanimhaber.com

NeoGen
12-11-2008, 07:40 AM
Time for another small tweak :icon_twisted:

You're just going to force me to push things - aren't you?

Well, new stats are up, but I'm unsure if the tweak is working or not. :)
The gap is now at 2.5K, but if the tweak forced a pit stop like for vaughan the other day, then the gap might have been at some point even shorter and now be increasing again. We'll have to see in the next stats run.

meshmar
12-11-2008, 11:35 AM
Well, new stats are up, but I'm unsure if the tweak is working or not. :)
The gap is now at 2.5K, but if the tweak forced a pit stop like for vaughan the other day, then the gap might have been at some point even shorter and now be increasing again. We'll have to see in the next stats run.


Maybe the thunderstorm and associated power outage might have something to do with that :-(

You can see that my new minimum crunch time gives me a slight edge when the box is up and running, though :)

NeoGen
12-11-2008, 07:42 PM
I can imagine the sirens playing tonight at meshmar's house when he sees the last update to the stats. :icon_lol:

RED ALERT! RED ALERT!
All personnel to battle stations!
This is NOT a drill!

Check the stats guys! :icon_wink:

meshmar
12-11-2008, 07:53 PM
:cussing:more storms and more power outages. This is really frustrating. Got the box fine tuned to stay ahead and Mother Nature is being a real mother:cussing:

The power company isn't helping any, either.

For sympathy pains, turn off your contest box for 6 to 8 hours :icon_rolleyes:

:icon_lol:

NeoGen
12-11-2008, 08:08 PM
Meshmar, you said that the lowest score was lower than vaughan's, but beware because that might have been a lucky WU you had. Vaughan's average turnaround for PSP Sieve is still faster than yours, as well as average credit per workunit.

I'm trying to develop something here to show the last day's credits or something similar, but until then be careful, statistics can be deceiving at times.



... And now that I look at it, what the heck is wrong here?? The statsman is not supposed to be placed last! I have to fix this! :icon_mrgreen: :icon_lol: :icon_lol:

meshmar
12-11-2008, 10:43 PM
Meshmar, you said that the lowest score was lower than vaughan's, but beware because that might have been a lucky WU you had. Vaughan's average turnaround for PSP Sieve is still faster than yours, as well as average credit per workunit.

My average is still higher because of the previous WUs in the mix. If you look at the turnaround on a daily basis ... :icon_twisted: Now If I could just keep the power on :icon_mad: It's been off 5 times today :sad5:

Ramjet
12-12-2008, 01:52 AM
:cussing:more storms and more power outages. This is really frustrating. Got the box fine tuned to stay ahead and Mother Nature is being a real mother:cussing:

The power company isn't helping any, either.

For sympathy pains, turn off your contest box for 6 to 8 hours :icon_rolleyes:

:icon_lol:

Meshmar, that's not thunder you're hearing, that's my Opty coming down your road :new_2gunsfiring_v1: :icon_mrgreen:

And I believe I am exempt from shutting my contest box off, I already gave you a two day head start when the power knocked me out :qgreenjumpers:

Danish Dynamite
12-12-2008, 10:17 AM
looking at stats you can really tell who is on 32 and 64 bit os/boinc

NeoGen
12-12-2008, 10:04 PM
Stats update! :)

Check out to see if meshmar kept his lead or if vaughan managed to jump ahead. I know the answer already but I won't say. :icon_razz:

This weekend I have to optimize the stats process somewhat. It is taking nearly 2 hours from start to end. I currently have data on over 35K Workunits from everyone alltogether, and growing several thousands every day. And we're still halfway on the contest yet. :icon_mrgreen:

meshmar
12-12-2008, 11:04 PM
Over 10 hours total without power can make a big difference:sad5:

Maybe I can stay on long enough to slip back by.

vaughan
12-13-2008, 03:10 AM
I don't dare go near my race computer. The air conditioner is blowing cool air on to it to help keep the temps steady at 53C per core. Ambient is 31C in the room today. Glad the Zalman 9700LED is doing its job nicely. :icon_wink:

mitchellds
12-13-2008, 03:37 AM
wow, now we got a RACE!!! you cant get much closer than that !!

Jim_Clark
12-13-2008, 04:00 PM
It's a late start, but count me in. User ID= 11907, CPU ID= 41298. I'm doing PSP sieving.

NeoGen
12-13-2008, 09:11 PM
Stats update! :)

Vaughan is trying to run away but meshmar is going strong in spite of the difficulties. One can see how the crunch time dropped for meshmar lately, he used to be on 99%.

Jim, you're curious to see how your rig performs? I'll add you right away! You'll show up on the next batch of stats. I can't tell you that you have a chance to win with a late start like this, but I can tell you that you'll probably have fun! :)

And hey... I'm not placed last anymore! :icon_mrgreen: Finally my TPS workunits batch finished and I'm on PSP Sieve with almost everyone else!
Bender, don't you wanna do PSP Sieve with us as well? :icon_razz:

meshmar
12-14-2008, 02:28 AM
I think I have a very slight edge that will let me slowly catch up. We'll have to wait and see if it's enough.

NeoGen
12-14-2008, 02:29 AM
Jim, you're on the stats now. :)

Jim_Clark
12-14-2008, 03:13 AM
... Jim, you're curious to see how your rig performs? I'll add you right away! ... And hey... I'm not placed last anymore! :icon_mrgreen:
Yeah, I thought I might start by doing someone a favor by pushing them out of last place! :icon_wink: Actually I began setting up for the Winter Solstice Challenge of PrimeGrid's Challenge Series: 17 Dec 2008 12:04 UTC – 21 Dec 2008 12:04 UTC. (Maybe that's why others here are focusing on PSP Sieve.) Then I saw this race, and figured, why not see how my Athlon 64 X2 Dual Core does here, as least for speed, even though there's no chance of catching up. It'll be fun anyway! :icon_lol: Oh -- and thanks, NeoGen, for adding me to the stats.
:icon_santa:

NeoGen
12-14-2008, 10:16 AM
For best performance on PSP Sieve we found out that a 64bit OS makes all the difference. Nobody with a 32bit OS has reached 30 credits/hour, while the guys with 64bit OS'es (either Windows or Linux) can make it over 60 and sometimes even over 70 credits per hour.
The Winter Solstice challenge starts in 3 days, you still have time to install a 64bit OS there. :)

And by the way... I guess we're all participating on the challenge this time. No one needs to sign up for it, just crunch PSP Sieve, right? That's what we're doing already. :)

NeoGen
12-14-2008, 10:27 AM
I think I have a very slight edge that will let me slowly catch up. We'll have to wait and see if it's enough.
I think it's working meshmar, the gap between you and vaughan seems to be slowly shrinking. As of this last update to the stats, it's around 300 credits only. :)

Vaughan, to keep things interesting, can you adjust the turbocharger some more? :icon_mrgreen:

meshmar
12-14-2008, 12:27 PM
For best performance on PSP Sieve we found out that a 64bit OS makes all the difference. Nobody with a 32bit OS has reached 30 credits/hour, while the guys with 64bit OS'es (either Windows or Linux) can make it over 60 and sometimes even over 70 credits per hour.
The Winter Solstice challenge starts in 3 days, you still have time to install a 64bit OS there. :)

And by the way... I guess we're all participating on the challenge this time. No one needs to sign up for it, just crunch PSP Sieve, right? That's what we're doing already. :)

We need to get more members actively crunching on PSP Sieve - 32 or 64 bit.

NeoGen
12-14-2008, 05:43 PM
Meshmar, your Average Credit per hour is already higher than vaughan's but those storms over there seem to not have an end. Vaughan's gaining a lead again, and Jason is right behind you.
I just know you're going to ask Santa for a UPS this christmas. :icon_lol: :icon_santa:

Danish Dynamite
12-14-2008, 05:50 PM
We need to get more members actively crunching on PSP Sieve - 32 or 64 bit.

Message from server: Proth Prime Search (Seive) is not available for your type os computer.
so i am guessing server will not send work units to comps that do not have 64 bit os/boinc client installed

liuqyn
12-14-2008, 05:56 PM
PPS Seive is 64bit only, and by request only.

NeoGen
12-14-2008, 05:59 PM
Danish, you quoted Meshmar, but he was saying PSP, not PPS. :icon_wink:

meshmar
12-14-2008, 07:52 PM
Meshmar, your Average Credit per hour is already higher than vaughan's but those storms over there seem to not have an end. Vaughan's gaining a lead again, and Jason is right behind you.
I just know you're going to ask Santa for a UPS this christmas. :icon_lol: :icon_santa:

Yes - still having small outages. Even a UPS wouldn't help for the hour long+ outages I've been having. :sad5:

Jason1478963
12-14-2008, 09:04 PM
We can build a ups as big as you like. Mine will run 10 computers for over an hour :)

Ramjet
12-14-2008, 09:59 PM
Not that we don't have enough stats to keep watching, but it appears Vaughan could be knocking on the 1,000,000 mark by the time the race ends. :wav:
Maybe we need to push him a little harder to insure he makes it! :icon_wink: Go Vaughan GO!

Danish Dynamite
12-15-2008, 06:05 AM
Danish, you quoted Meshmar, but he was saying PSP, not PPS. :icon_wink:

oh good point there, i guess my eyes wasn't open enough this morning

NeoGen
12-15-2008, 08:34 PM
Brand new stats online! :)

Amazingly the 1K gap between the top 3 fellows maintains.
Liuqyn and txt.file seem to be on a race between themselves, Liuqyn having the advantage so far. Danish Dynamite and Nflight are racing side by side with a difference of very little credits, with BlackAdder not too far behind in the chase. And last but not least is shotgunner ramping up the credits fast, me and Bender10 close to each other (but I'm running PSP Sieve now!) and Jim, who had a late start in the race, but is running with us for the Primegrid Challenge in a couple of days.

I think that sums up the whole lot :)

NeoGen
12-16-2008, 09:54 PM
And after much struggle against mother nature, and the local power company, meshmar gets the lead again, for as little as 18 credits yet. :)

Day after day the average credit per hour record has been broken, and it now sits at 72.94 credits, also by meshmar. A single dual-core machine is doing that fellows. That means around 1750 credits per day, on a single machine. We need more of those! :)

Bender10
12-16-2008, 10:00 PM
Actually, I made a small adjustment in my cruncher....


me and Bender10 close to each other

I fired up the other half of my X2.....:icon_rolleyes:

NeoGen
12-16-2008, 10:16 PM
You are finally crunching PSP Sieve with the rest of the gang. In having a 64bit OS your credits per hour instantly tripled. :)

Now, the only one missing seems to be Danish Dynamite. Come on Danish, join us in the primegrid challenge. :)

Bender10
12-17-2008, 12:23 AM
Yeah, finally changed to PSP also...

Ramjet
12-17-2008, 01:13 AM
In case anybody missed this from the other thread, take note!
Scores will be kept for individuals and teams. Only work units issued AFTER 17 December 2008 12:04 UTC and received BEFORE 21 December 2008 12:04 UTC will be considered for credit. Since this is a fixed credit project, we'll be using cobblestones for scoring.

It looks like we will need to do a flush of all our old wu's.

liuqyn
12-17-2008, 02:38 AM
I won't be able to flush as I am on the road, but I set my buffers for only 0.5 days so my overrun shouldn't be too bad.

Danish Dynamite
12-17-2008, 07:48 AM
Now, the only one missing seems to be Danish Dynamite. Come on Danish, join us in the primegrid challenge. :)

i am there, i have suspended work units and at least two have been crunched thus far, just have to crunch remaining work outs before it appears i am on this

meshmar
12-18-2008, 12:21 PM
Is anyone else getting a LOT of cancelled WU or 'lost' wu being resent? I'm seeing those lately, and I think that has something to do with my performance ... as well as another power outage :sad5:

Nflight
12-18-2008, 01:40 PM
Meshmar I am causing a lot of work units to be canceled due to my system downloading way too much for the system to handle. I have discussed this issue with many people but my system will not stop till the most amount allowed is downloaded no matter what I set the preferences to. This of course makes me cancel or abort a huge amount of work units. Very Time consuming. This is why I hate BOINC projects. Freaking ridiculous. :icon_mad:

meshmar
12-18-2008, 03:39 PM
I'm not canceling mine ... they are "Canceled by Server". Those along with the "Lost Workunit resent" are all coming from the Primegrid end. It's burning a lot of HD and Bandwidth time ...

Danish Dynamite
12-18-2008, 06:01 PM
i have found out for some reason all comps besides the one is this event for PSP Sieve work units is downloading 64 bit (primegrid_psp_sr2sieve_wrapper_1.02_windows_x86_6 4.exe) instead of 32 bit (primegrid_psp_sr2sieve_wrapper_1.02_windows_intel x86.exe) since i have 32 bit xp and boinc installed and running i guess thats why i have been getting client errors

NeoGen
12-18-2008, 09:53 PM
Stats update! :)

Meshmar, those power failures are killing you in the contest. You've reached the 73 credits/hour average, and still rising, but vaughan is getting away, and Jason is getting close. Maybe you can push the OC a little bit more to compensate for the lost time? :icon_razz:

Bender, you're racking up the credits like a rocket! Now you're really tapping the potential of your cruncher there. :icon_wink:

meshmar
12-19-2008, 11:24 AM
Now comes the real test - I'm going to be gone for the weekend to a family reunion ...

Hopefully, the power issues will hold off while I'm gone.

NeoGen
12-20-2008, 08:24 PM
Well... we're on the 20th of the month now, two thirds of the contest are now done.

In 20 days 12 machines have crunched over 50,000 WUs that took more than 8,500 CPU hours and generated more than 300,000 credits for the Team. These numbers are impressive. :)

I'm keeping the stats updated about 2x a day, so even if I don't post announcing stats update you can always check the stats. :icon_wink:

mitchellds
12-24-2008, 02:49 PM
7 days left !! Where or where will I be shipping the prize ?

BlackAdder
12-24-2008, 07:30 PM
I wish it was coming to me..... :)

It's been fun guys, since I have no chance of catching the leaders I'm returning to GPU Folding for the most part. I may do a few more wu's... Boinc Logix shows I have done 1097 Prime Grid work units, and I must say the points are not bad either.

Now who to cheer on to victory ???

Happy Holidays All !! :icon_santa:

NeoGen
12-24-2008, 10:28 PM
7 days left !! Where or where will I be shipping the prize ?
Looking at the stats today, chances are that it's to Australia. :icon_wink:
Vaughan has gained great distance during these last couple of days. I guess meshmar might be suffering of power failures again.

But there's plenty of time left yet, so let's see how it turns out. :)

meshmar
12-26-2008, 03:25 AM
I'm getting messages about "No WU" "Internal Server Error" etc. definitely some issues connecting to or d/l from PrimeGrid. Not sure what's going on :sad5:

NeoGen
12-27-2008, 02:08 PM
Hey guys

Sorry for the lack of updates, I have a bit of a flew. Can't be near the computer, looking at the screen makes my head hurt. I'll try to keep the stats updated.
But as of the last update, vaughan has a big lead over everyone else. Run vaughan run! :)

You can check it out on the links on my sig. :icon_wink:

AQUAJOE
12-27-2008, 07:29 PM
Hey whats up guys? I threw a machine at this as well. I hope you all had a good holidays!!

Nflight
12-27-2008, 08:57 PM
Nice to see your shining smile there AquaJoe, I miss seeing that blackbird taxing down the runway more often. :icon_mrgreen:

meshmar
12-28-2008, 03:36 AM
I'm finally getting a steady supply of WU ... but it looks like it's a little late

mitchellds
12-28-2008, 03:38 AM
maybe not to late, got any http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/File:Liquid_nitrogen_tank.JPG ??

Danish Dynamite
12-28-2008, 06:17 AM
dont the dual core amd's have a cold bug at about - 23 c ?

vaughan
12-28-2008, 07:53 AM
By my calculations Meshmar will overtake me in approx 752 days :icon_wink:

I don't dare go near the AMD Athlon 64 X2 6000+ for fear of jinxing it. :5obsessed:

meshmar
12-28-2008, 12:40 PM
Now I'm bask to getting a string of "No WU available", with an occasional WU downloaded.

mitchellds
12-30-2008, 02:43 AM
Only 2 days left ....

Ramjet
12-30-2008, 09:57 AM
Congrats Vaughan, it looks like you are about to become the proud owner of a dual cpu cruncher. It's been a fun race, can't wait for the next one. :) :wav:

Brucifer
12-30-2008, 04:46 PM
This has been a really cool race to sit by and watch!! :) I've really enjoyed it and congratulate everyone "racing." You all made it a real kick in the pants to watch. And last but not least, a thank you to the benevolence of the "unknown donor" that made it all possible! Was really a good team spirit kind of thing to watch over the holiday season!! :icon_santa:

NeoGen
12-30-2008, 09:00 PM
About 26 hours to go fellows. :icon_santa:

I may do the last stats collection a couple hours later due to new year's celebrations and all, but before producing the final stats I'll manually cut off workunits sent after the deadline.

Well... we sure had a few bumps on the road at the begining, a few things not well defined (TPS only or not), a few unforeseen events (host id changes), the rules of the game changed a bit when the 64bit PSP Sieve credits values were shown, but all in all things worked out well in the end, and we've learned plenty with it. So next time let's do something even bigger and better guys! :icon_mrgreen:

And believe it or not, these 12 dual-core machines alone have crunched for a total of nearly 12.000 CPU hours, on nearly 60.000 Workunits, making over 500.000 credits for the Team. Impressive! :)

mitchellds
12-30-2008, 09:05 PM
Very fine job everyone !! Congrats to all involved.

AMDave
12-31-2008, 06:03 AM
I have to admit that I completely under estimated the X2s and skipped them waiting for the phenom hence now keeping me out of this race.

Well done to all of the contestants, that is a whole lot of credit and kudos to you.

Some of us were convinced that one of you was going to fry something expensive but you all surprised us again.

It seems that the X2 still has some legs in it.

Go AMD Users!

NeoGen
01-01-2009, 11:19 AM
FINISHED!!! :icon_santa:

Oficial final standings:

1. Vaughan - 92,397
2. Meshmar - 86,232
3. Jason1478963 - 84,847
4. Liuqyn - 74,873
5. txt.file - 64,015
6. Bender10 - 48,436
7. Danish Dynamite - 35,726
8. Nflight - 22,995
9. BlackAdder - 20,407
10. shotgunner101 - 8,660
11. NeoGen - 6,478
12. Jim_Clark - 3,199

Congrats to vaughan, who is going to get another dual-core system to play with. Squeeze her good like you did to this one vaughan! :icon_mrgreen:

And thanks to everyone for participating in yet another wacky contest, brought to you by AMD Users! :icon_lol:

Next contest? Somewhere in 2009 :icon_wink:

Ototero
01-01-2009, 01:13 PM
Congrats to Vaughan for winning.
Great effort everyone else.

Thanks to Neo for the stats.

Frederic Brillouet
01-01-2009, 04:43 PM
Squeeze her good like you did to this one vaughan! :icon_mrgreen:


If I were a sig quote guy, this would definately make my signature :icon_lol:

Ramjet
01-01-2009, 05:17 PM
Thanks to Mitchellds for the prize donation, thanks to everyone involved in setting up this race, thanks to Neo for all the work he put into the stats, and Congrats to Vaughan for the victory!! Also thanks to all the other participants for the competition. :) This race was very enjoyable to participate in, every day was like christmas morning, couldn't wait to see where everyone was at. We'll definately have to do this again, and hopefully we can get more racers involved and make it even more interesting! :)

mitchellds
01-01-2009, 08:11 PM
Great work with the Stats NeoGen !!

vaughan
01-02-2009, 01:53 AM
Thank you everyone for the congratulations messages.

Thank you NeoGen for the awesome stats.

And last but not least a big thank you to mitchellds for donating the prize which was the driving force for the competition. :icon_thumright:

I hope I can "squeeze her good" for you. :)

AMDave
01-03-2009, 03:20 AM
If I were a sig quote guy, this would definately make my signature :icon_lol:
what a good idea :icon_twisted: :icon_lol:

meshmar
01-03-2009, 12:50 PM
Congrats Vaughan. Maybe next time I'll have a little better luck with my Power Co (or have a backup generator).

Danish Dynamite
01-04-2009, 02:18 AM
congrats vaughan

BlackAdder
01-04-2009, 01:40 PM
Way to go Vaughan !! This was a fun race...and thanks to NeoGen for the stats.Maybe next time............:icon_twisted:
:wav:

Lagu
01-08-2009, 10:14 PM
Congrats Vaughan to another scalp!

Lagu:)

mitchellds
01-08-2009, 11:01 PM
The prize is in route to the other side of the world. It left the United States from ISC NEW YORK NY(USPS) at 11:09 AM on January 7, 2009, due to arrive on Jan. 12th.