What's up???

[Brucifer]

Sure seems like things are really getting dead around here lately. Then I'll head over to FDC, and it sure seems like things are really slowing down there too. I haven't been following teams stats positions or points accumulations, but now I'm wondering if people are slowing down on crunching? As I read the stuff out on the net and watch the economic situation worsening for the most part, I'm left wondering if that is impacting the crunching world? I'm really wondering if it is going to impact any of the projects. Seti was having a heck of a go getting funding and begging for money during the supposed good times, I wonder how it's going for them now, and the others too.

[vaughan]

I agree with you Brucifer. Its been too quiet here at AMD Users. I guess that most folk are busy in Real Life and just crunch away in the background. I'm sorry I couldn't organise a February Race but work has been very full on recently and I barely have time to check every computer in my pharm once a day. I hope you don't wander off to what you perceive as greener pastures because your comments and feedback are engaging here at AMDU.

[Nflight]

I have become overly busy as I picked up a part-time job to cover the bills recently. Unfortunately the company found out I was a good worker now my days are sometimes 12 hours or more. It sure isn't part time anymore. This week alone I should have over 80 hours, and now I have caught a cold with fever to make things even worse. :sad5:

I do miss the good chatter on the forum - Don't fret I will return once some normalcy can be found. I am not going anywhere at this time. :blob3:

[Ototero]

I have noticed the quietness around here. For my own part, I don't have anything relevant to contribute. But I do read all the new posts.

I might have no job after Mar 11. If that's the case, all my machines will go off.

Let's hope not.

[BlackAdder]

I agree it's been quiet, but if everyone else is worried about their jobs and working as much as they can just to pay the bills like I am then it's entirely understandable.I don't know personally how much more bad news we all can take before someone or a lot of people go " postal "...my retirement 401K is down about 80%, my brother in law has lost all of his because he worked for Circuit City for about 20 years and put all of his retirement into their stock because of their matching funds...now they are bankrupt....and I know he is not alone in this.
How much longer before their is chaos ???

[Beerknurd]

I have a new son and my job takes alot out of me. When I get home I just want to chill out. I still log in a few times a day and read the posts. I am still crunching on 8 cores. But I apologize for being so quiet. I think the big problem over the entire DC world, is there are just too many projects now. Back when I started crunching, there were a lot less projects and we all contributed to them and discussed them, Now there are hundreds of them dragging all of our members in diffrent directions. People tend to only contribute in the forum of the projects that they are running and disregard everything else. Most of the activity on our forums lately is about GPU crunching. I really have no interest in that nor do I have the money to upgrade my boxes. So I usually breeze past those threads.

I think that is the major problem. There are just too many projects pulling everyone in different directions. But we are all here and crunching away to the best of our ability.

So login when you can, post when you got something to say, and keep on crunching... :)

[Bender10]

I'm busy with my new job. I check the board when i can during the day to keep up....and now i have to head off to werk....busy..busy...

[Brucifer]

I might have no job after Mar 11. If that's the case, all my machines will go off.

Let's hope not.

yes, that would really suck! :sad5: Not to mention all your work on the stats going down the tube.... :-(

[Jason1478963]

I've been keeping busy with work and my apprentice program. I have to agree with Beerknurd on the many projects. I haven't been reading up on the projects that I'm not working on.

[Jerod Vandehey]

I have been busy at work and just changed jobs again. I haven't had much time to devote to selecting a new project. I am happy to say that I currently have the fastest quad core on nqueens (per the average credit) which puts me at #3 in the overall rankings. The #1 and #2 spots have an octa-core setup. When I get some more time I will change over to a new project, not sure when though.

[liuqyn]

nice going, I don't seem to stay on one project long enough lately to get my average credit up.

[mitchellds]

Nice work !

[Danish Dynamite]

well done Jerod i guess you might be happy i dont frequent that project much and it appears that my native quad's mobo has died lol

[Steve Lux]

I work in the building products industry, and I can tell you that business is really slow. About half of our local work force has been laid off and my hours have been cut about 15 hours a week. I've really had to cut back locally to make ends meet.

Me, I'm just trying to understand the concept of US $209,000+ per job we are supposed to save or create here in the US ($838 billion to save 4 million jobs - you do the math) via this "stimulus" package. If they want to stimulate the ecomomy then make us want to spend money - don't spend what we don't even have for us. I could say far more on this, but likely this isn't the topic.

Crunching; I just stopped MJ-12 and started Dimes back up. From 1 day's worth of work; it looks like I'll be doing over 2k measurements per day. I'll be in the team's top 100 by tomorrow. Long climb to the team's upper ranks - nothing exciting going on there. Won't be sending China any more money for new systems or boards for a while.

[Brucifer]

I'm seeing a lot of slowing down around here. About the only thing that still seems to be doing well are the eatery's. But I expect that will slow down too as things progress with the slow down. A lot of layoffs in all sectors around here. The building world has really slowed down. Only a few new buildings going up now, and they were started long before the banking stuff hit. As for the new housing starts, they aren't. Not seeing the traffic at night that I used to either. More people staying home in the evenings.

As for my own purchases, I just ordered a replacement m/b for one that burned up. But I'm not into any more expansion. I've got 4 nvida geforce gpu's and that's all I'm buying of them. Basically just hunkering down and will run with what I have. If they start dinking around with the electricity rates, then the gpu's will be taken offline due to their consumption. I think that the good old days are behind us. I don't expect to see things go back like they were, not for a long time anyways.

A lot of people have really taken it in the shorts with their 401k's. A lot of the older folks I talk with that were getting ready to retire don't have that luxury any more. And for the folks in their 40's, 50's, and 60's, the odds of building back up their retirement next egg is basically down the tubes. So while a lot of the politicians, and investment world people keep trying to talk things up, it's all just a lot of wishful thinking. They may get jobs going again, but for the older folks, rebuilding their funds is going to present some severe problems. Myself, I don't think that the party (pun) has started yet, it's all still in the pre-party stage. :-(

[Steve Lux]

I feel worst for the folks who have just recently retired. There is no way they are bringing home what they had expected. Businesses are cutting back so they won't be able to go back to their old jobs or at their age get new ones.

[Brucifer]

Yep, I hear you IRT the old folks. It's about an impossibility for them to get their savings back unfortunately. Pretty sad indeed. But it's just plain sad for anyone to lose savings through no fault of their own. :sad5:

So where did all the posters go??? Here it is, another Monday morning here in the US of A anyways, and I log in, and didn't see any new posts. A true bummer!! :sad5:

And while I'm on the bummer routine... The team I started out with in the DC world has done disappeared it appears.. US-Distributed, which once upon a time was Team SETI USA, which morphed into US-Distributed when more projects other than seti@home started proliferating. One day the website was there, and then it wasn't. Time marches on, or so the saying goes anyway. Rather sad to me to see it fold up. But as I look through a lot of other team's websites, their postings seem to be dropping also. Even some of the really big ones don't seem to have the traffic that they did not too awfully long ago.

[vaughan]

I remember US-Distributed, they had some heavy hitters. Where did they all go?

[Brucifer]

I remember US-Distributed, they had some heavy hitters. Where did they all go?

A lot of them headed for Free-DC. That's where Bok and I headed. Then I started crunching here more than FDC. There's still some people crunching under the US-D name on various projects, but it keeps on thinning out. Several were California people, and electricity prices there (and other places too) have spiked quite a bit since the hey day of the team. And then a lot of time has gone by, and people drift away from the DC thing as they move on to other things in their lives too... just like maefly at FDC which is the subject of a current thread over there. So it's a combination of things I think.

But one thing is sure, and that is that active forums keep people returning to keep up to date with what is going on. :)

[Nflight]

I would keep this conversation going by explaining that I have had a family matter step up and take most of my time. It is not me but some one in my care. This of course means I need to be nearby relentlessly close all the time. Time on the computer is less plus I picked up a part time job that I thought would be only 20 hours per week. and the first week touched 80 hours. I asked for less and this week I am getting less, if I get pushed into doing more I will have to find another part-time job!

I stop in periodically and quickly exit due to the caring situation. I am still around not just very active in posting. Yes it is quiet, but it is that way everywhere not just here on AMD Users... Cheer up this can't last forever can it? :sad5:

[Lagu]

Hi friends of AMDusers!

The electrical bill is higher than ever but I still run DPAD on 3 cores (2 computers). My AMD64 3200+ is not viable and My Intel P II is stopped from all crunching because it is too slow.

My other bills are more important than repair the AMD64. I own a house as cost money.

Our forum has long mostly been for members as are talking about thing as I not have myself, nor can buy why my interest is lower than before. If I had a Quad Core I should be more interested asking what to run, how to run it and much more. Now I’m the most poorer of AMD’s many members because I is unemployed.

I remember (perhaps you other not have forgot it?) 5 years ago when no one hade a Dual, Quad cores or Graphic card as run tasks. I think this time was more happy and memorable than today’s stress after more and more points as fast as possible.

The joy own one or more computers and when we were in the same boat has lost its shimmer, the competition has been too heavy and imbalanced. I and perhaps others feel we are alone and no one ask after us and want to know how we feel!

I as a small owner are not so happy nowadays but it is the technically development
as we not can stop and not shall stop and the price we may pay regardless how we feel or not feel.

When you all have read the message above, can you think I for one feel it is OK write a message here and there in our forum with no feeling? I can try but it is sometimes a very high wall to go over.

As Vaughan say, peoples have enough with their common life and work can be right but not the whole truth. There is also people’s spirits and falling interests of any cause. After many years running and manage our computers perhaps we feel we had enough for a longer or chortler period and therefore we are silent or seldom online.

This message took me over 1 hour to write. Write, think, write, think and seeking the right word and my own feeling for our forum, my sadness putting these true word on the “paper”. May our forum survive whatever as happen!


Lagu :(

[Brucifer]

Very very sorry to hear that you are now unemployed Lagu. You hit the nail on the head though when you point out that bills in the "real world" are more important than crunching. And I really expect that the longer this falling economy continues, the more likely it will be to impact some of the DC projects too besides just the volunteers.

And I also fear that the slowdown is going to have a hard impact on the chip manufacturers too as people just aren't buying parts and things like before. The longer this goes on, the more it's looking like it's going to be more and more far reaching impact everywhere.

[Lagu]

Yeah, the life is harder nowadays not only for me but also for many, many, many thousands of peoples without home and unemployed and families as have low income. But I have always been a positive human and sure we will notice the light of the tunnel because it can only happen something positive in the long run.

I think it MUST happen because all as is bad can’t continue in all eternity. If I not had this perspective I should be knocked down. Positive, positive is the word we would think on often. AMDusers is a positive incitement. AMDusers isn’t gone and never will. Sometimes I can write a message with a smile on my face because my hearth is happy and in harmony with my brain. I vary from day to day.

Right now I’m on RFV www.rfv.se (http://www.rfv.se/) and my work is much joy able. I’m happy every morning when I know I have something to go for, peoples to talk and laugh with. I will stay there to June 30 as a trainee and my boss has given me a great faith. If God will I perhaps will be employed from July 01. Of source I hope but at the same time I’m realistic. I say to myself, calm down and don’t hope too much. But I can guarantee, no one on the earth should be happier than me if the incomprehensible should happen.

Read what RFV is and you will know more. Look for English text.

Lagu:icon_neutral:

[Lagu]

Thank you Brucifer.

I have been unemployed 7 months, perhaps more. I have forgotten when. Without work it is easy lose the control over whish day it is. I think it is thursday but in reality it is friday.

Lagu:)

[Ototero]

Thanks Lagu, being positive is a must. As you say, the global downturn cannot go on forever, it just seems like it right now. Many of my friends are being made redundant. My turn is coming, although I'm always given a "stay of execution" at the last moment.

The good times WILL return.

[BlackAdder]

Hi all, Lagu I'm distressed to read that you and many others of our team mates are unemployed. Back in 91 I was without a job for nearly 9 months, I don't know how my wife and I made it with two kids and a house payment.I have been told repeatedly that in the pre-fabrication shop where I work now that we are always losing money on jobs that we do...not all of them but many of them. I am a Journeyman Electrican ( one of two ) and there is nothing else here but some apprentices and the rest are laborers. I have been told that the others make half what I make...and even if I make something "right" the first time that the others can do the same thing,completely mess it up and do it over again and the cost for them to do it twice is still cheaper than paying me to do it once....I can't win.
I pray that this global downturn is a short one and we ALL can get back to work and get our lives back in order. God Bless all.