Projects Supporting ATI GPU

[gamer007]

Hey guys, so I went from a Nvidia 8800GT to an ATI 4850. It's a nice change since the 8800GT is really loud when playing games or running CUDA projects. :icon_lol:

I'm wondering what projects support ATI's GPU (not sure they call their "CUDA").

[vaughan]

MilkyWay@Home, Collatz Conjecture, DNetc, PrimeGrid subproject sieving - all BOINC and a new one released today for the non-BOINCers at No Prime Left Behind sieving.

[NeoGen]

I'm wondering what projects support ATI's GPU (not sure they call their "CUDA").
Yea, AMD didn't put much money on the marketing of the "ATI Stream" as a name. And I guess now it's too late anyway because ATI as a brand will cease to exist, it will be only AMD... so I guess it will be "AMD Stream" sometime soon? :icon_rolleyes:

[Dirk Broer]

I'd rather see OpenCL applications with Boinc, able to be run by either ATI/AMD or nVidia cards. Then we can also see what's more important: GMips (ATI/AMD) or a sooped-up shader clock (nVidia). Best would be a combination of both of course...Little comparison (nVidia sorted upwards, Ati downwards, so best cards of both are just above/below each other)


<TABLE BORDER CELLPADDING=8>
<THEAD>
Model Gf sp Gf dp RAM type Interface Bandwidth Watt CoreMhz ShaderMhz MemoryMhz</THEAD>
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<TR>
GTX275 GT200b 1011 84 896 GDDR3 448-bit 127 219 633 1404 1134</TR>
<TR>
GTX275 GT200b 1011 84 1792 GDDR3 448-bit 127 219 633 1404 1134</TR>
<TR>
GTX285 GT200b 1063 89 1024 GDDR3 512-bit 159 204 648 1476 1242</TR>
<TR>
GTX285 GT200b 1063 89 2048 GDDR3 512-bit 148,6 204 648 1476 1166</TR>
<TR>
GTX470 GF100 1088 136 1280 GDDR5 320-bit 133,9 215 607 1215 837</TR>
<TR>
GTX475 GF100 1113,6 139 1024 GDDR5 256-bit 124,8 185 725 1450 975</TR>
<TR>
9800GX2 G92 1152 0 2x 512 GDDR3 2x 256-bit 2x 64 197 600 1500 999</TR>
<TR>
GTX480 GF100 1345 168 1536 GDDR5 384-bit 177,4 250 700 1401 924</TR>
<TR>
GTX295 GT200b 1788 149 2x 896 GDDR3 2x 448-bit 2x 111,9 289 576 1242 999</TR>
<TR>
GTX495 GF104 2073,6 259 1024 GDDR5 2x 256-bit 2x 115,2 290 675 1350 900</TR>
</TBODY>
<TBODY>
<TR>
Radeon HD5970 4640 928 2x 1024 GDDR5 2x 256-bit 2x 128 294 2x 725 2x 725 1000</TR>
<TR>
Radeon HD5870 2720 544 1024 GDDR5 256-bit 153,6 188 850 850 1200</TR>
<TR>
Radeon HD4870X2 2400 480 2x 1024 GDDR5 2x 256-bit 2x 115,2 286 2x 750 2x 750 900</TR>
<TR>
Radeon HD5850 2088 417,6 1024 GDDR5 256-bit 128 170 725 725 1000</TR>
<TR>
Radeon HD4850X2 2000 400 2x 1024 GDDR3 2x 256-bit 2x 63,6 250 2x 625 2x 625 993</TR>
<TR>
Radeon HD4850X2 2000 400 2x 512 GDDR3 2x 256-bit 2x 63,6 250 2x 625 2x 625 993</TR>
<TR>
Radeon HD5830 1792 358,4 1024 GDDR5 256-bit 128 175 800 800 1000</TR>
<TR>
Radeon HD4890 1360 272 1024 GDDR5 256-bit 124,8 190 850 850 </TR>
<TR>
Radeon HD5770 1360 0 1024 GDDR5 128-bit 76,8 108 850 850 1200</TR>
<TR>
Radeon HD5770 1360 0 512 GDDR5 128-bit 76,8 108 850 850 1200</TR>
<TR>
Radeon HD4870 1200 240 1024 GDDR5 256-bit 115,2 160 750 750 900</TR>
<TR>
Radeon HD5750 1008 0 1024 GDDR5 128-bit 73,6 86 700 700 1150</TR>
<TR>
Radeon HD4850 1000 200 1024 GDDR3 256-bit 63,5 110 625 625 1000</TR>
<TR>
Radeon HD3870X2 1000 200 2x 512 GDDR4 2x 256-bit 2x 57,6 ? 825 825 900</TR>
</TBODY>
</TABLE>

[BlackAdder]

GPUGRID does ati gpu's, and the points are good too

[BlackAdder]

OOOPPPsss... I just noticed I've been with AMD USERS for 5 years !!

[vaughan]

GPUGRID does ati gpu's, and the points are good too
I'd forgotten about that project, I have its nvidia client running - tasks take 18+ hours to run. Under Linux they take 48-72 hours with a GTX460.

[vaughan]

OOOPPPsss... I just noticed I've been with AMD USERS for 5 years !!
Congratulations on a worthy milestone.

[Beerknurd]

OOOPPPsss... I just noticed I've been with AMD USERS for 5 years !!

Congrats!!!

[Dirk Broer]

Hmm,

I may be a rookie on this forum, but I've been a member of the group AMD users for at least 5 years. Ever since my old IBM group was disbanded by handing over the division IGNS to AT&T (in 1999), I crunched not for IBM, but for myself. I must have been then that I became a virtual citizen of the British Virgin Islands. At first I only did Seti@Home, later (that's a whole 5 years later, 2005) I also crunched Einstein@home, LHC@home, Rosetta@home and Predictor@home. Must have joined AMD users round that time as well. In 2006 SIMAP followed, in 2009 Leiden Classical and later that year Milky Way and Malaria Control. It was evident then that Predictor had stopped. I had bought a GPU by then, originally specially for Seti and Einstein, but to give to poor thing (A GT9500) something to do I also signed up for Collatz and DNETC. This needed a better GPU, so I bought a GTX260 on the 2nd hand market. This turned out my best aquisition in hardware ever so far.

[gamer007]

Thanks for the list, guys. I'll start testing out my card later when I get home from uni.

EDIT: Almost 7 years as a proud member of AMD Users. It's been a long time! :icon_mrgreen:

[NeoGen]

OOOPPPsss... I just noticed I've been with AMD USERS for 5 years !!
Congrats BlackAdder! How time flies when you're having fun. :)

You have been below my radar lately, if I had spotted you earlier I would have added you to the Wiki... but then again I have been busy with work so have come over here less frequently. You are in line for a much due "Wikification"... lol. :)

I joined AMD Users when I got my AMD Athlon XP 2000+ back in... I can't remember when already. lol
But it was one great machine that gave me plenty of points on the classic SETI@Home at the time... oh the memories of the good old times when there was no boinc and CPUs only had 1 core... :icon_lol:

[Dirk Broer]

oh the memories of the good old times when there was no boinc and CPUs only had 1 core... The good old days when there was only one project, so you could estimate which CPU suited you most: http://ksetispy.sourceforge.net/SetiTimer.php We could use an application like that again, but development on KSetiSpy seems to have fallen flat.

[SuicideCabbage]

GPUGRID does ati gpu's, and the points are good too

I signed up with GPUGRID but everytime my client requests work, it comes back saying I have no NVIDIA GPU. Do I need a double precision card like in Milkyway? The cards I tried are a 2600 XT, and a 4670.

[liuqyn]

I'm fairly certain it only supports nvidia cards.

[Dirk Broer]

Yes, basically there are just a few ATI GPU projects: Milky Way (Provided you have an Ati card with a Double Precision Floating Point Unit, so a Radeon HD 38xx, 48xx, 47xx, 58xx, 59xx, FirePro V87xx, FireStream 92xx (and sorry: Windows only)), DNETC (also Windows only), Collatz (err....Windows only) and Seti@Home, see http://setiathome.berkeley.edu/forum_thread.php?id=61626

[NeoGen]

I'm fairly certain it only supports nvidia cards.

GPUGrid seems to be working towards supporting ATI cards too :)
I found a thread on their forums about testing with 5870's.
http://www.gpugrid.net/forum_thread.php?id=1458

[liuqyn]

from what I understood, they tried to modify the cuda code(instead of writing a stream app) and it ran very poorly, so unless they have further advanced this, I would suggest another projects for ATIs.

[Dirk Broer]

From what I've read they tried to make it an OpenCL application, but you need to register at AMD to get 2.2 SDK dll's (or 2.3 which will hopefully work better) and it only works on ATI 58xx cards it seems (and I may hope HD5970s as well, while they're working on 57xx support, but no lower, so my 'new' HD3870 is definitely out). Performance is still not great, as is with Seti@Ati

[Tamaster]

... but you need to register at AMD to get 2.2 SDK dll's (or 2.3 which will hopefully work better) and it only works on ATI 58xx cards it seems...

Nope, not true. I'm running the 2.2 SDK (w/OpenCL 1.1 support) on one of my Kubuntu machines that I slipped a 4850 into along with the newly patched 10.9 driver and Catalyst. It was *_NOT FUN_* figuring out that there was an issue with desktop compositing and effects wrestling with the OpenGL at the same time. I'm documenting a BugTrack for submittal on this (I suspect very few people have had any success getting the OpenCL up and running on *_ANY_* KDE 4.x desktops). But, your truely did and it works pretty sweet. I'm still in testing and benching, but so far the numbers are DAMN GOOD considering I'm running an $80US TeraScale adapter. I'm in new territory and that's what I LIVE for...

[Dirk Broer]

I am already looking for a HD4770, a 4870 or a 4870X2 at a decent price...my 2nd hand (just 45 Euro) HD3870 is already a good Milkyway cruncher (30k credits a day), these HD4xxxs ought to be even better. Might even consider a 5830 or 5850, if I can get one below 120 Euro's. These things outperform my only quad by a factor of at least 5.

[vaughan]

I suggest you wait a little bit until the 6XXX GPUs are released by AMD. This will make the 5XXX series GPUs fall in price.

[Dirk Broer]

Wait till prices drop after the 68xx introduction? They sure did. Saw today a new HD4770 offered for a mere € 53.45, and that is a double precision enabled card, unlike the new 68xx series. Considering that some people offer their 2nd hand HD4770 for € 120, a mere € 53,45 is dirt-cheap http://www.c-s-c.nl/1280/index_webshop.php

[SuicideCabbage]

Prices dropped for sure on the 4000 series, by the time I saw the sale it was already sold out, but Newegg had a XFX 4850 for $19.99 after rebate and free shipping. Had I noticed when they still had stock I would have bought the limit. :(

[Dirk Broer]

Prices dropped for sure on the 4000 series, by the time I saw the sale it was already sold out, but Newegg had a XFX 4850 for $19.99 after rebate and free shipping. Had I noticed when they still had stock I would have bought the limit. :(

The cheapest HD4850 (an ASUS EAH4850/2DI/1GD3) here in the Netherlands goes away for €79.00; the most expensive still does €135.99 (a Gigabyte GV-R485OC-1GH)

The 2nd hand market sees HD4870 cards trading for prices as low as €65.00-€75.00
People still are able to sell their HD4770s for more than they'd bought them for....

[mattio79]

hello all. i was a member of team-scifi for about 2 years, but i got tired of the same 2 ppl posting in the forum about random sci-fi crud that i had no interest in. i am an AMD /ATI/AMD fanboy so i decided this team would be a perfect fit.

i am currently running one box with an AMD Windsor 6000+ dual core with an AMD HD4850 GPU on an ASUS m2a-vm (AMD 780 chipset). i plan on purchasing a AMD 1100T, 8gb ram on an ASUS am3 AMD 880 chipset with 2x HD6970s. i plan on running primegrid and collatz until i get at least 10 million on each. hopefully by then more openCL apps will be written for AMD GPUs.

i am a PC technician with 16 years of experience and have been using AMD almost exclusively over the past 10 years. my first AMD cpu was an old 5x86 133mhz integer only processor. it was on a socket 3 motherboard with an intel chipset. it lasted for 8 years. my current platform has been in service for 3 years.

[Ototero]

Welcome Mattio. We are a no pressure team here. You do what you want. Crunch what you want. Chat about what you want. Especially if it's about AMD stuff!

[mattio79]

Welcome Mattio. We are a no pressure team here. You do what you want. Crunch what you want. Chat about what you want. Especially if it's about AMD stuff!

then i hope bulldozer isn't a Graphics flop like intel's core stuff. if it is, the discreet market is safe

[vaughan]

Hi Mattio. Welcome aboard the good team AMD Users. I agree with you that the discreet GPU market is safe. Question: when is the AMD 6990 due for release?

[Dirk Broer]

Actually the first Bulldozer CPU are already out on the market (Socket G34), and there is no baked-in IGP, so still market for one or more HD6990 in your K-10 system!
The only G34 CPUs you can buy here in the Netherlands at the moment are the 8-core Opteron 6128 (240 Euros) and the 12-core Opteron 6174 (1000 Euros)
The HD 6990 is rumoured to come out sometime this month....

AMD CPUs with built-in graphics will fall in the Fusion family: (click on the picture to magnify)

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Drat and drat again! How is a person to make a table here?

[AMDave]

here you go

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i am so smart S M R T (thanks homer) :icon_mrgreen:

In-thread html is set to 'off'
linkies are ok though

[Dirk Broer]

Hi Dave,

Thanks, I think I stick to the solution I already used: a link to someting that looks a lot better than
Whatever awfull that will not take 10 rows and as much columns