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Brucifer
03-15-2013, 05:36 AM
Is it possible to combine two different boinc accounts on the same project?

AMDave
03-15-2013, 07:26 AM
Nope. Sorry. No way that I know of.

Brucifer
03-15-2013, 08:35 AM
Thank you for the reply. :-)

Dirk Broer
03-15-2013, 09:30 AM
There's still hope when you used the same user name and email for those accounts (http://boinc.berkeley.edu/dev/forum_thread.php?id=5676)

AMDave
03-15-2013, 10:26 AM
Sorry, that's a misconception. CPID splits occur over multiple projects.

In this case Brucifer is referring to multiple accounts existing on the same project.
The reason they cannot be merged is that there is no facility in BOINC Server to merge Member IDs within a project (MIDs not CPIDs)

HTH

Dirk Broer
03-15-2013, 01:39 PM
I looked Brucifer up in Boincstats and encountered him 8 times (that is, there's 8 occurences of the name brucifer together with team AMD Users. There are also 3 Japanese Brucifers and 4 Canadian, two of which are member of B.C.Boinc) and a possible 6 more.

I'll give the eight from team AMD Users in the hope this might help:
http://boincstats.com/en/stats/-1/user/detail/2609927/projectList Asteroids and Collatz, active. There was MilkyWay under this account till at least 5 March of this year, but the 6 Million credits for it got transferred -to which account? Looks like this from Kristina: http://boincstats.com/en/stats/-1/user/detail/2624651/lastDays Get confirmed here (http://stats.free-dc.org/stats.php?page=userbycpid&cpid=f279b9388b47dd9fcefd467481b27f4d), where clicking on Brucifer's MilkyWay Milestone brings up Kristina's present score for it.
http://boincstats.com/en/stats/-1/user/detail/6775/projectList Moo! and not active (1,890,526.00 credits) There was -till 2011 at least) also Collatz under this id, but it got transferred to Brucifer's present active account some time after July 10, 2011.
http://boincstats.com/en/stats/-1/user/detail/2266107/projectList GPUGrid and not active (14,750.93 credits). Till May 2012 there was also MilkyWay (some four million) and Collatz (12 Million) under this account. The MilkyWay went to Kristina, the Collatz to Brucifer's present account.
http://boincstats.com/en/stats/-1/user/detail/789439/projectList Rosetta and not active (11,334.58 credits)
http://boincstats.com/en/stats/-1/user/detail/1176435/projectList Einstein and not active (3,118.61 credits)
http://boincstats.com/en/stats/-1/user/detail/1225510/projectList World Community Grid and not active (2,628.27 credits)
http://boincstats.com/en/stats/-1/user/detail/1255681/projectList Docking and not active (2,366.83 credits)
http://boincstats.com/en/stats/-1/user/detail/1786314/projectList QMC and not active (264.03 credits)

I think it might help Brucifer to add all these above mentioned projects to all his present machines and re-activate -if possible- old machines and do the same till this is sorted out.
And select all projects and update when the projects are all added, so each machine has contact with the servers.

As Brucifer's present account has seen some transferences of credit (http://boincstats.com/en/stats/-1/user/detail/2609927/lastDays) I suspect there are even more id's involved...or people with access to the same PC that both have a BOINC account? Perhaps Brucifer might have a logical explanation.

Other possible Bruces:
http://boincstats.com/en/stats/-1/user/detail/13700/projectList DNETC not active of course and 3,394,427.40 credits. Confirmed as to be 'our' Brucifer (http://stats.free-dc.org/stats.php?page=user&proj=dne&name=2606).
http://boincstats.com/en/stats/-1/user/detail/226404/projectList Rosetta (16,640.75) and Seti (110,622.32) for a total of 127,263.06 credits
http://boincstats.com/en/stats/-1/user/detail/1171472/projectList Seti, 3,178.05 credits
http://boincstats.com/en/stats/-1/user/detail/1419011/projectList XtremLab, 1,300.38 credits
http://boincstats.com/en/stats/-1/user/detail/1425878/projectList Predictor 1,287.24 credits
http://boincstats.com/en/stats/-1/user/detail/1835518/projectList Seti, 226.27 credits

AMDave
03-15-2013, 02:38 PM
True.
But just the tip of a very large iceberg ;)

Brucifer
03-15-2013, 04:26 PM
There are lots of Brucifer's nowdays. Once upon a time I was pretty much a lone Brucifer! Lol.... What isn't included above is F@H as it isn't boinc and there are multiple brucifers there. Kristina is in my family, and is crunching Collatz, as am I off and on. Milky Way, and Asteroids are pretty much all over to her. I only have two ati systems capable of milky way and those are over to her now. Asteroids is also all hers now. Isn't enough room in the house (nor money in my wallet) to add another computer room and wad of computers, so the machines get shared now, thus the same computer ID's between accounts. As for the boinc dnetc, I have no idea, I only tried the moo wrapper for a little bit, and didn't get into the dnetc@home boinc thing due to the big peeing contest early on over who's account was ultimately getting credit which resulted in the stats change a little later on for that effort. Predictor I don't remember. Boinc hasn't been my favorite over the years as most of my effort has gone into rc5-72 under distributed.net's side of the project not the boinc related wrapper stuff, ogr, and various prime number efforts more largely in the sieving efforts. In the earlier years a lot of seti, but 98% was pre-boinc. Thus the question originally regarding the combining of the the boinc accounts as the milky way brucifer/kristina accounts along with a couple testing accounts I wanted to move totally over to her along with the asteroid work. The only boinc effort I still mess with myself is collatz, and that comes and goes depending whether or not I'm crunching rc5-72 as the gpus are used for both. The two 4850 systems I gave to her as they work good for MW, but not really good for rc5-72 due to too much heat output. The gpugrid, I think I tried that once with a nvidia system, but it didn't do much for me and the high powered nvidia boxes suck a lot of juice and put out a lot of heat so I didn't hang with that project. Rosetta I don't recall, but may have tried it. Only two folks have access to my systems. I've given some systems and gpu's away over the years as I've bought new stuff and didn't have room for them.

As Dave pointed out, there are some things that weren't taken into account in boinc. Back in the early boinc days before it hit the street I was one of the beta testers. Those were in the heavy unix days. But I wasn't a fan of it, and went off into the other non-boinc math related projects. And has time has moved on, my interest in dc has pretty much jelled into distributed.net stuff, with now and then trips off into the f@h world for the Alzheimer's efforts. And of course the Jeeps............ :-)

edit: and of course my recently acquired Raspberry Pi toy. :-)
edit edit: And the future plan is to most likely add on to the astroids effort as the i5's do pretty good on it, and don't cost an arm and a leg. Also don't need gpu's, so those systems are kind and easy on the A/C unit. And in the mean time to start dinking around with water cooling. I'm just not as much into the hard core points gathering mode now days. Getting old I guess. Definitely aren't even anywhere close to being a spring chicken anymore, so it's more fun to tinker with stuff now.

Brucifer
03-15-2013, 04:54 PM
And in going back and looking at Dirk's post, I have no idea of anything related to the Canadian Brucifer's. Haven't crunched for B.C. Boinc. As far as Japan, I lived there for many years so there would be some stuff probably in the system from years back. If it's current, then it's not me.

AMDave
03-16-2013, 12:14 AM
Interesting.
I was alluding to your older aliases, which Dirk would not be likely to know about.
But it's murky enough without stirring up all that :P
We really do have some history behind us these days. :)

Brucifer
03-16-2013, 06:27 AM
Now days it is pretty much immaterial as projects are all pretty well set so that points crunched stay with the team an individual belonged to at the time the points were crunched. That eliminates the major bone of contention in the old days. Things have mellowed out a lot more so that a person can crunch to help other folks/teams to pay them back for help they rendered without a world war starting over it for the most part. In reality a lot of folks have crunched for multiple teams as they have developed crunching friendships over the years. And distributed computing doesn't have the extensive number of highly competitive teams that there used to be either. At the end of the day the end thing is to help the project. There's many good ones now and for the most part they are working away at goals that benefit humanity in one way or another.

Dirk Broer
03-16-2013, 10:38 AM
The man even has his own beer (http://www.mcmenamins.com/events/100080-Limited-Edition-Beer-Tasting-Brucifer-Pepper-Porter)
But so do I http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v131/xiii_ix/DirtyDicks.jpg
The XtremLab score is also his, and I got one (or two) aliases: 72CJ5 and AMD_72CJ5, all via our own wiki (http://www.amdusers.com/wiki/tiki-index.php?page=member%3ABrucifer)
As our wiki mentions a Tanpaku score for Brucifer, this is also one of his BOINC ids: http://boincstats.com/en/stats/-1/user/detail/712049/projectList
and this Brucifer-san has a Riesel sieve score: http://boincstats.com/en/stats/-1/user/detail/317647/projectList

72CJ5 gives another five id's: http://boincstats.com/en/stats/search/#72CJ5

Brucifer
03-16-2013, 05:20 PM
Interesting on the "Brucifer Pepper Porter" but it's just a limited batch thing. Dirty Dicks is a production run situation looks like. As for the Brucifer's, I'm not a fan of the hot peppers either. I do like the horseradish hot, wasabe paste mixed with a bit of soy sauce, or hot chinese mustard that clears out the sinus cavity in a heartbeat is much more to my liking. But generally I am a big fan of the dark Porter's, and also Belgian White's. :-)

Brucifer
03-16-2013, 11:47 PM
Here is a good interesting URL for you all to read and think about while you are digging up userid's.......

http://www.cnn.com/2013/03/16/opinion/schneier-internet-surveillance/index.html?hpt=hp_bn7

George Orwell's world has been exceeded! Those that think they are escaping by using annonymous services out there in the cloud are only fooling yourselves, as the article points out, it only takes one little slip-up and the gig is up. :-) But then those of us that have been in the computer geek thing for years and years already knew that didn't we? Just maybe not how extensive it has all become. Quite sobering really.

edit:
http://arstechnica.com/tech-policy/2012/03/all-the-latest-on-the-unmasking-of-lulzsec-leader-sabu-arrests/