No one can make fun of me anymore!!!!!!

[Beerknurd]

I am typing this on my new system... I am officially part of the AMD Users family!!!!!


Here are the specs.


CPU-Z Report

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CPU-Z version 1.28.


CPU(s)
Number of CPUs 1

Name AMD Athlon 64 3300+
Code Name Paris
Specification AMD Athlon(tm) 64 Processor 3300+
Family / Model / Stepping F C 0
Extended Family / Model F C
Brand ID 4
Package Socket 754
Core Stepping DH7-CG
Technology 0.13 µ
Supported Instructions Sets MMX, Extended MMX, 3DNow!, Extended 3DNow!, SSE, SSE2, x86-64
CPU Clock Speed 2411.1 MHz
Clock multiplier x 12.0
HTT Bus Frequency 200.9 MHz
L1 Data Cache 64 KBytes, 2-way set associative, 64 Bytes line size
L1 Instruction Cache 64 KBytes, 2-way set associative, 64 Bytes line size
L2 Cache 256 KBytes, 16-way set associative, 64 Bytes line size
L2 Speed 2411.1 MHz (Full)
L2 Location On Chip
L2 Data Prefetch Logic yes
L2 Bus Width 128 bits



Mainboard and chipset
Motherboard manufacturer ASUSTek Computer INC.
Motherboard model Salmon, 1.04
BIOS vendor Phoenix Technologies, LTD
BIOS revision 3.07
BIOS release date 01/10/2005
Chipset SiS 760 rev. 2
Southbridge SiS 964 rev. 36




Memory
DRAM Type DDR-SDRAM
DRAM Size 512 MBytes
DRAM Frequency 200.9 MHz
FSB:DRAM CPU/12
CAS# Latency 3.0 clocks
RAS# to CAS# 3 clocks
RAS# Precharge 3 clocks
Cycle Time (TRAS) 8 clocks
Bank Cycle Time (TRC) 11 clocks
DRAM Idle Timer 16 clocks
# of memory modules 1
Module 0 Micron Technology DDR-SDRAM PC3200 - 512 MBytes



Software
Windows version Microsoft Windows XP Home Edition Service Pack 2 (Build 2600)
DirectX version 9.0c

[Empty_5oul]

nice beer,

3300 are you sure ???

[meckano]

Nice, and welcome to the 'Light' side, errrr re "Dark" side. :D
sorry if ya felt laughed at! not nice, not nice at all :p

If you are into tweaking :)
In my asus Bios, there is a memory setting to enable the
1T command. I found that helped with seti classic, so still use it.
- My memory is Premium, which is a step above standard, nothing special; not like the Corsair in this Giga-Mobo.(which has no 1T control)

Found this:
Command Rate This is the setting that selects the speed of the SDRAM signal controller. If set to 1T the memory controller is running in synchronization with your bus speed. 1T will increase your memory bandwidth but a LOT of memory brands will really have trouble running this at decent speeds. This setting will have to be played with a LOT while your increasing your FSB speed. It does in fact increase your memory bandwidth but will often lower your max bus speed so much that it just isn't worth using.

From here:
http://www.iamnotageek.com/a/1-p2.php

[NeoGen]

Hey beer, in what will this mean green machine be used? :D

[Ototero]

3300+ Are you sure, they only made 3200+ or 3400+.

Still.....welcome to AMD Users ;)

Are you now going to throw your old machine away :shock:

[meckano]

Wow, actually got my premium ram looking stable.
from
2.5-3-3-7
to
2-3-3-6, w/ 1T command

Too bad this mobo doesn't have settings, I'd get the Corsair stuff doing magic. ;) (it's stuck at 2.5-3-3-8, 2T command :p )

If you don't know what I am talking about, I'll say now, I don't know enough to explain it, but I make changes, run burn-in software, check temperature.
I do Not play with voltages. No death wish here lol

[Empty_5oul]

thats what i meant ototero when i posted before.

[Jeff]

I am so proud of you!

[Beerknurd]

3300+ Are you sure, they only made 3200+ or 3400+.

Still.....welcome to AMD Users ;)

Are you now going to throw your old machine away :shock:


3300+ is what is says on the box.... 2.4 Ghz. Yall are the experts on these things...

Here is the exact cpu I bought...

Beerknurd's AMD (http://www.compusa.com/products/product_info.asp?product_code=317572&pfp=cat3)

And no I am not throwing anything away....

[AMDave]

Nice rig.

The borged P4 sitting on the floor in my study is in exactly the same case.

HP do a good software install and good updates and restore settins too. I only had to remove the "Internet assistant" software because it was doing random web searches and pulling in viruses and spyware like nobody's business. I'm not sure if the owner put that on there or if it was part of the original install.

One thing - you are going to enjoy that PC.

Congratulations.

Welcome to the brotherhood :D


Ototero:
Throw away? Just how cheap are CPUs in England today ? :lol:
Hey. Look at it this way. You can breath a sigh of relief. You can pay out your mortgage now without having to buy Beer an AMD now.
(old joke referring to a lost thread - damn hackers)

[Lagu]

Bernknuud!
Congrats! Now you is an fullworty member of AMD users. :!: I wish you should join F@H and help me and our team chrunch for a better position. What say you? :D Your AMD is maked for F@H. You can use SSE.

Lagu :)

Here is my spec. Your PC is nearly similar with my PC. Take a look on my spec.

ZPU-Z Wersion 1.28

Name: AMD Athlon 64 3.200+
Code Name: NewCastle
Package: Socket 754
Tecnology: 13 µ
Family / Model / Stepping: F C O
Extended Family / Model / F C
Revision: DH7-CG
Brand ID: 4
Name String: AMD Athlon™ 64 Processor 3.200+

Instruktions: MMX, MMX(+), 3DNow!, SSE, SSE2, x86-64

Clocks

Core Speed: 2.247,3 MHz
Multipler: X 11
HTT: 204,3 MHz

Cache

L 1 Data: 64 Kbytes
L 1 Code: 64 Kbytes
Level 2: 512 Kbytes

L 1 Data Cache: Size 64 Kbytes, 2-ways assositivety
Line Size: 64 Bytes
L 2 Chace Size: 512 Kbyte, 16 way-assositivety
Line Size: 64 Kbytes, 2 way
L 1 Instruktions Cache: Size 64 Kbytes, 2-way assositivety
Line Size: 64 Kbytes
Ratio: Full = 2.247,4 MHz
Bus Width: 128 MB
Prefetch Logic: Yes

Motherboard:

Pheonix Abit KV8 Pro Southbridge (Via K8T800 - 8237)

Memory:

Kingston DDR-Sdram 333 Pc 3200 (200 MHz) 1.024 MB
Memory Speed: 160,5 MHz
FSB DRAM: CPU/14
Cas# Latency: 2,5 clocks
RAS# to CAS Delay: 3 Clocks
RAS# Prechange: 3 Clocks
Cycle Time (TRAS): 7 Clocks
Bank Time (TRC). 10 Clocks
Dram Idle Time: 16 Clocks

Memory settings: 2,5 3 3 8

[vaughan]

Nice PC Jason. Now you're a fully fledged AMD User what are you going to run on it? Ubero? :whipitgood:

[Beerknurd]

right now i'm running SOB

[Beerknurd]

I am so proud of you!

I'm proud of me too..... It's about time I guess... :lol:

[DMMc]

OK...If I can't make fun of you can I at least throw spitballs at your avatar?.

Nice system sir

[Beerknurd]

Thanks.... I'm keeping my eyes open for a new avatar.... But until then feel free to spit whatever you'd like at it... :lol:

[Ototero]

New computer, new house, whatever next ;)

Are you keeping both machines, 'cos then you'll double your output.

Or will your wife "confiscate" the old one :roll:

[Empty_5oul]

ototero i just converted that into £ rather than $ and it came out at £336.77 which is an amazing bundle for that :thumbleft:

[Ototero]

Phew, you're telling me :shock:

Our prices are good here, but that is just silly. We should set up a business, Beer buys them, ships them over, we sell them, profits split 3 ways. :roll:

[Empty_5oul]

*** and before we sell them they can crunch for us, whilst we "test" them - just to make sure everything works properly.

[Ototero]

Good plan. :lol:

[bwhite]

Way to go Jason!!! Nice system. :)

[Beerknurd]

New computer, new house, whatever next ;)

Are you keeping both machines, 'cos then you'll double your output.

Or will your wife "confiscate" the old one :roll:

MINE!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! :lol:





See there is such a thing as a 3300+

Yall were scaring me for a while... I thought CompUSA started selling bootleg merchandise....

[Beerknurd]

Even though I have an AMD now Stu.... You still owe me one after your house is paid off.... Using your plan from earlier, you could just send me the money and I'll buy it here. That way you don't have to spend as much. :lol:

[Empty_5oul]

they are remarkably cheap over there compared to here, though the exchange rates are also goot right now.
my 64 3200 at christmas was around £100 just for the processor (around about $200) :? :S :?

[Ototero]

Jason,

I think my house will be paid off in another 15 years :cry: :mad:

I wonder if AMD users will still be around then.

Still never seen a 3300+ in the UK. But not every chip ever reaches our shores.

[Empty_5oul]

nope i wasn't even aware that it was produced either. i guess it just outspecs my 64 3200+

ot - amdusers will ALWAYS be around.

[Beerknurd]

ot - amdusers will ALWAYS be around.


^^^^^Bump^^^^^

[Beerknurd]

they are remarkably cheap over there compared to here, though the exchange rates are also goot right now.
my 64 3200 at christmas was around £100 just for the processor (around about $200) :? :S :?

That processsor is expensive here too....

AMD 64 3200+ (http://www.compusa.com/products/product_info.asp?product_code=318723&pfp=BROWSE)

This is the same store I got my PC from...

[vaughan]

Its odd that the A64-3300 isn't mentioned in the list of processors at AMD's site. Must be a special run that CompUSA got produced for them.

[Beerknurd]

weird...

[Beerknurd]

I am going to run Ubero for a few days just to see what kind of output this thing as. I have it running in text mode with IBM java and it's not doing too bad.....

[vaughan]

Ubero - the best.

[Beerknurd]

I'm coming after you........

137 days and counting..... :lol:

[meckano]

AMD has utilities here to very HT info and what-not.

http://www.amd.com/us-en/Processors/DevelopWithAMD/0,,30_2252_869_1039^871^2364,00.html

[Beerknurd]

I did some research... The AMD 3300+ is only available as an OEM. HP and Compaq both have systems with AMD 3300+ processors.

Now that I have one I need to know some stuff.....

My AMD has a clock speed of 2.4 Ghz. My motherboard can handle up to a 3700+. Both have clock speeds of 2.4 Ghz... I don't get it... The 3700+ is $350.00. Why would someone pay that much more for a processor that's just as fast as a cheaper one... (Ex. My 3300+)

Can someone explain What the 3300+ and 3700+ is and what the diffrences are?? I'm comfused. Intels are compared by clock speed. What are AMD's compared by...


Sorry for the newbie questions.....

[meckano]

Working on answer :) Yup, lengthy, and interesting.

[vaughan]

Uh oh! I'd better dust off the P233mmx then.

[meckano]

Sure, no prob! That's the sort of thing I get into.

First:
The +: that means it is just as fast as an intel of that speed.
- Just that an Intel 3500 has a clock(speed) of 3500MHz
-- 35 x 100fsb or 17.5 x 200fsb or ...
- Whereas an AMD 3500+ is just as fast as a 3500MHz Intel, but
-- runs at 2400MHz
--- 24 x 100fsb or 12 x 200fsb
Ya see, it deals with info differently, so that is why there is the big AMD/Intel face-off all the time.
- Like AMD was/is better at Multi-tasking, but Intel was/is better at one-thing-at-a-time, especially with video editing.

A big part of what AMD messes with is the on-die cache size, and use there of.
- I don't know what Intel cache is like.
Like my 2500+ Barton has 64k+64k(called 128k) of L1, and 512k of L2 cache.
-- It runs at 11 x 166fsb = 1826MHz
((To overclock --or what I call un-underclock-- I took it off the 166fsb and stuck it on the 200fsb))
- This made it exactly the same as the 3200+ Barton, and it runs.
--So I now have a 3200+ which was never running at its full potential.

Now the 3300+ vs. 3700+
The 3700+
This is 12 x 200fsb = 2400MHz
- and due to its cache and architecture, runs like a 3700Mhz
-- 64k+64k L1, 1024k L2
The 3300+
This is 12 x 200fsb = 2400MHz
- and due to its cache and architecture, runs like a 3300MHz
-- (guessed) 64k+64K L1, 512k L2

I say guessed, but that is why people get the software to see what is on their cpu. Like I found that mine is the same as the 3200+ Barton; and even though the multiplier of 11 was locked it did not matter, the 3200+ had the same. I switched the fsb up a level(to keep pci bus at 33MHz) and BANG! It worked. :D

Another comparison
My 2400+ ThouroughBred B
Its clock is faster than on the 2500+; it's at 2000MHZ
- It does some things faster than my 2500+ too.
- So when I stuck that on a faster fsb, 133 to 166, (and i was able to turn down the clock on it, too bad I didn't get the 2200+ with same multiplier) well it is faster than the now Titled 3200+; but only in clock speed, by 41MHz (2241MHz).
-- The Barton still is speedier due to the extra 256k of L2 cache, but it has to work at it, cause L1 and L2 cache are full speed. 2200MHz on the 3200+ and 2241 on the um, I call it a 2800+ now, for the TBred B.
------
And it can never be a Barton due to this L2 cache thing:
http://www.cpuscorecard.com/cpuprices/aaxp.htm
- that page has some revision notes beside the names

So, you want some more? OK!
RAM (DDR SDRAM)...(Double Data Rate, Single Density RAM)
We start with the bus the fsb(front side bus)
- lets use a 200MHz example
-- if you compare it to a/c electricity, that would be 200 cycles, but in computers it is digital...hi-low-hi-low-hi(up-down-up-down-up)...and they have corners, they are pulses. Not like the a/c sine wave.
--- it would do something one each up, or down, don't remember which.
-- now we have DDR
--- this means that something is done on each up, and on each down; so it seems like, and is as fast as 400MHz.
---- Why is RAM called DDR 400 and not DDR 200? Don't know!

The point of bringing up the RAM has to do with what I read at Tom's site about Intel having to change with the times, and stop stating that real-time speed is based only on MHz's(clock speed). If they needed proof, well they need only look at the DDR RAM workings to say, um yeah, clock speed is just a base from which we work, not a be all and end all.

When Lagu brought up the point about his HT being 1GHz, that really stuck with me. that means althought the cache is at full speed(assumed), the rest must be faster. (I don't think so) I think it is that 'Pro-rating' again.(remember the +?) I figure they feel the info does not have to go out to the RAM and back in, so the work gets done faster. Again, Not Sure!
- Why I posted the link, hoping someone would come back with a 1gig speed reading.

Swedish to follow :)

[meckano]

Same, In Swedish :)

Säker , ingen problem! Den där er slagen av sak JAG tråka i.

första
Den +: den där medel den er rättvis så fort så en intellekten av så pass fart.
- Rättvis så pass en Intellekten 3500 har en clock(speed) av 3500MHz
-- 35 x 100fsb eller 17.5 x 200fsb eller.
- Var en AMD 3500+ är rättvis så fort som 3500MHz Intellekten , utom
-- springa på 2400MHz
--- 24 x 100fsb eller 12 x 200fsb
Område se , den affären med meddela annorlunda , så fakta ät är varför där er den stor AMD / Intellekten möta - bort all tiden.
- Lik AMD var / är bättre på Många- - arbetsuppgift , utom Intellekten var / är bättre på en - sak - på - en - tid , särskilt med video redigerande.

EN stor del om vad AMD bud med är den på - dö gömställen storlek , och använda där av.
- JAG icke gör det veta vad Intellekten gömställen är lik.
Lik min Barton har 64k+64k (called 128k) av L1, och 512k av L2 gömställen.
-- Den springa på 11 x 166fsb = 1826MHz (( till overclock eller vad JAG kalla o - underkläder - JAG tog den bort den 166fsb och stickat den på det 200fsb))
- Den här gjord den exakt den samma så den 3200+ Barton , och den springa.
-- Så JAG nu har en 3200+ vilken var aldrig löpande på dess full potential.

Nu den 3300+ vs. 3700+
Den 3700+
Den här er 12 x 200fsb = 2400MHz
- och på grund av dess gömställen och arkitekturen , springa lik en 3700Mhz
-- 64k+64k L1, 1024k L2
Den 3300+
Den här er 12 x 200fsb = 2400MHz
- och på grund av dess gömställen och arkitekturen , springa lik en 3300MHz
-- ( gissat ) 64k+64K L1, 512k L2

JAG säga gissat , utom den där er varför folk få mjukvaran till se vad sitter i deras cpu. Lik JAG grunda så pass min är den samma så den Barton ; och sel om den multiplikator av 11 var låste den gjorde icke materia , den 3200+ har den samma. JAG kopplat den fsb upp en nivå ( hålla pci bussen på 33MHz) och Bang! Den arbetat. :)

En annan jämförelse
Min 2400+ ThouroughBred B
Dess klocka är hurtigare än på det 2500+; den er på 2000MHZ
- Den gör något sakerna hurtigare än min 2500+ alltför.
- Så när JAG stickat så pass på en hurtigare fsb , 133 till 166, ( och jag var köpa duktig vända ned klockan på den , alltför dålig JAG gjorde icke få 2200+ med samma multiplikator ) brunn den er hurtigare än den nu Betitlat 3200+; utom bara i klocka fart , vid 41MHz (2241MHz).
-- Den Barton stilla är hastigare på grund av den extra 256k av L2 gömställen , utom den har till arbeta for den , orsak L1 och L2 gömställen de/vi/du/ni är full fart. 2200MHz på det 3200+ och 2241 på det um , JAG kalla den en 2800+ nu för den , den TBred B.
-----
Och den kanna aldrig bli en Barton på grund av den här L2 gömställen sak :
http://www.cpuscorecard.com/cpuprices/aaxp.htm
- så pass sida har något revidering anteckningen bredvid den namnen

Så , du vilja något mer? OK
RAM (DDR SDRAM ). ( dubbel Datan Hastighet , Enkel Tätheten RAM )
Vi börja med det bussen den fsb ( ta parti mot någon bussen )
- låta använda en 200MHz exempel
-- om du jämföra den till en c elektricitet , så pass skulle bli 200 cyklerna , utom i datamaskinerna den er digital. hi-low-hi-low-hi(up-down-up-down-up). och de har hörna , de er puls. Inte lik den en c sine våg.
--- den skulle göra den något en var upp , eller ned , icke gör det minas vilken.
-- nu vi har DDR
--- den här medel så pass något är gjort på var upp , och på var ned ; så den synes lik , och är så fort så 400MHz.
---- Varför är RAM alarmerat DDR 400 och inte DDR 200? Icke gör det veta!

Punkt om uppfostran den RAM har till gör med vad JAG läsa på Tom's tomt omkring Intellekten har till ändra med det tiden , och stopp konstaterande så pass verklig - tid fart är baserat bara på MHz's(clock speed). Om de behövde bevis , brunn de behov bara blick for den DDR RAM arbetande till säga um yeah , klocka fart är rättvis en tarvlig från var vi verk , inte en bli all och slut all.

När Lagu uppdra utloppen omkring hans HT varelse 1GHz, så pass verkligen stickat med jag. den där medel fastän gömställen är på full speed(assumed), vilan måste bli hurtigare. ( jag icke gör det tänka så ) JAG tänka den er så pass 'Pro - grad again.remember( den +? ) JAG siffra de känna den meddela hade inte till gå ut till SLÅ NED och rygg i , så den verk få gjort hurtigare. Igen , Inte Säker!
- Varför JAG postat länken , hoppande någon skulle komma rygg med en 1gig fart läsande.

:) Hope that was good Lagu ! :D

[meckano]

Does that help?

[Lagu]

Meckano!

You are one surprisingly man. Great job. Keep it up!

According to what you are talking about: All is relatively. The motherboard can supports 1 GHz hypertransport but if the system bus only has 800 MHz and the memory 200 MHz speed the speed is not higher than 200 MHz. The CPU can handle all this but when the processor works and will read/write to the disc it will not run faster than 200 MHz if the disc supports 200 MHz. If the disc only can handle 175 MHz the read/write function will be slower. It’s the same for the memory. If the system bus has 1 GHz, the Memory 1 GHz and the disc could have 1 GHz, we should have the worlds fastest and powerful PC’s of today.
I think it not helps if a PC has 2.200 or 2.400 MHz. Today it is the system bus, the memory and the disc that is the bottleneck.
From my Users manual:

Brand Name: AMD Athlon ™ 64 Processor 3200+
Frequency: 2.244 MHz.
CPU Operating speed: 2.200 (200)
External clock: 204 MHz
Multiplier factor: x 11 (11x 204=2.244)

As we can see: The CPU seems only works at 2.200 MHz. (11x200). I don’t know why the operating speed will be 2.200 MHz. Is 44 MHz of no use? Another sake: My memory is running in only 160.5 MHz. It should be better if it runs at 200 MHz ca.

I don’t know how the actual CPU operating speed Beernknud has on his AMD. I think it is lower than the frequency or perhaps not.

Lagu :D

[Lagu]

Today DDR2 is the fastest memory.
Lagu

[Empty_5oul]

Today DDR2 is the fastest memory.
LaguLagu, you are right with actual memory but in graphics cards DDR3 is available.

here is an example http://www.microdirect.co.uk/ProductInfo.aspx?ProductID=8534&GroupID=27

[Beerknurd]

Thanks Meckano. I have always had Intel's, so switching to AMD lingo is kinda confusing... But I'll get it eventually. All I know is that in Ubero my Intel spanks the AMD. But then again, Ubero is built for Intel. The only problem I see is that with my Intel I can run 2 instances of Ubero and get a better output. I can't run more than 1 instance on the AMD. If I run 2 instances one of them doesn't do anything while the other is crunching at full speed. I guess Hyperthreading for Intel is the reason for this...??? Am I correct??

But I guess I shouldn't complain too much. The AMD is 1000 times better than the Gateway 733 sitting on the floor unplugged. I need more space!!!!! But in 2 weeks I should be able to run all 3 with no problems....


Thanks again Meckano

[Empty_5oul]

yep hyperthreading is intels "multi-tasking" so you can do multiple things at the same time e.g. two instances.
AMD sort of has this, as mekano said and you asked why do intel and AMD numbers not match up. A 3200+ (in your case 3300+) is less Ghz than an intel but the equivilent of say a 3.2 (your other machine). More gets done per cycle in an AMD so to a normal user this appears multitasking though it actually is just doing lots of separate things in rapid sucession. Whereas Intel in my knowledge divides the CPU so you could run 2 instances of SOB or Ubero and get 50% each.
Running 2 instances on an AMD doesn't work as the first open client gets the work and due to DC until it runs out of work will keep this priority.
(That is slightly simplified)

hope this makes sense.

[Beerknurd]

Ok...

I was going to try and run folding@home but I started a WU on my P4 and it said it would finish in 1 day 8 hours and something. I started one on the AMD and it said like 8 days.... Are there diffrent size WU's??? If not then I thought that AMD ran Folding@Home better than Intel....

[meckano]

From what I remember of my reading, windows is a multi-tasking environment. Some of you may not remember the days when you could not run 2 progams at once. Now we can run a bunch in this shell call windows.

HT on the other hand, from what I understand, is having 2 virtual cpu's inside the physical cpu. If you have a hard drive split in 2, you have 1 pyshical drive and 2 virtual ones, a C and a D. One is in extended memory.

HT on AMD different to Intel? Don't know!
But read somewhere that someone created the same complete project in a different directory and ran both, which worked for him.
- Worth a try? yes. please give feed back, I'm just the curious sort, so that I can give answers to folk like that lengthy post I did earlier. :D

[meckano]

Oh, part of what I read on HT.
a 2 cpu system with HT can have 4 virtual cpu's.

[Beerknurd]

I wouldn't mind having that setup....

[Lagu]

Beerknurd!

Don’t be worry. Yes there are different sizes depending on wish project you run.
This project is 1803 and it has 250.000 steps. As you can see above so began this WU to crunch 21.31 o’clock (Evening) and was clear 09.43 o’clock in the morning. Ca 10 times for this job.

Now I’m running this WU: Protein: p1319_1fnt_a10_9.1ps-1_uf. This is a large WU and has 2,000.000 steps. It began 19.58 o’clock on evening mars 27. Now it has done 1360 of 2000 frames. The WU will end 06.12 o’clock on the morning mars 29. I have choose “Allow receipt of work assignment and return results greater than 5 MB”
This is from the job that I now is running, Observe Extra SSE boost OK and Gromacs Core.
19:58:58] Writing local files
[19:58:58] Extra SSE boost OK.[19:58:58] Writing local files
[19:58:58] Completed 0 out of 2000000 steps (0)
Gromacs Core

21:31:42] Folding@Home PMD Core
[21:31:42] Version 1.01 (Oct 15, 2004)
[21:31:42]
[21:31:42] Preparing to commence simulation
[21:31:42] - Looking at optimizations...
[21:31:42] - Created dyn
[21:31:42] - Files status OK
[21:31:42] - Expanded 81693 -> 558730 (decompressed 683.9 percent)
[21:31:42]
[21:31:42] Project: 1803 (Run 9, Clone 95, Gen 11)
[21:31:42]
[21:31:42] Assembly optimizations on if available.
[21:31:42] Entering M.D.
[21:31:49] Protein: p1803_Collagen_POG10_refolding
[21:31:49]
[21:31:49] Completed 0 out of 250000 steps (0)
[21:39:17] Writing local files
[21:39:17] Completed 2500 out of 250000 steps (1)

--------------------------------------------------------------------------------
09:42:40] Completed 250000 out of 250000 steps (100)
[09:42:40] Writing checkpoint files
[09:43:40]
[09:43:40] Finished Work Unit:
[09:43:40] Leaving Run
[09:43:44] - Writing 1487984 bytes of core data to disk...
[09:43:44] ... Done.
[09:43:44] - Shutting down core
[09:43:44]
[09:43:44] Folding@home Core Shutdown: FINISHED_UNIT
[09:43:47] CoreStatus = 64 (100)
[09:43:47] Sending work to server

Hope you will be silent!
Lagu :D

[Lagu]

Beerknurd!

Do not shoose "Allow receit of work assignment and return results greater than 5 MB in size" because you must have at least 1 GB memory. The WU I now is running need 451 MB. They can have greater jobs who will have moor than 451. Other WU's of 250.000 steps need ca 350 MB I myself have 1,024 MB.

Lagu :)

[Lagu]

Beerknurd!

WU's from proj. 1306 - 1476 gives the higest credits.

Try this link: http://vspx27.stanford.edu/psummary.html

lagu

[Beerknurd]

Thanks Lagu

[Lagu]

Every frames takes 59 sec in average on my Athlon 64.
Lagu

[Empty_5oul]

If you have a hard drive split in 2, you have 1 pyshical drive and 2 virtual ones, a C and a D. One is in extended memory.

how does this work then ??
i have one 160G harddrive and it is partitioned into C and D. I only have 1 actual physical harddrive but the computer thinks i have 2 so i can format them independently. Surely the extended memory hardrive would be slower ???

[meckano]

one will be faster than the other because the virtual harddrives are physically in different places on the harddrive; one around outside, the other around the inside.
On my maxtor I ran the software to stop the quieting that was done on it from factory, as this slows it down a hair. I can hear the difference between the two virtual drives when they are being read.
- that is because, with the 'quieting' off, and the drives partially fragmented(little bits were written here and there and whereever) the head(s) are bouncing around all over the place too.

[Empty_5oul]

k fair enough, you seem to know more than i do about HD's. I might have to take a look at my drive and see this fragmentation.

[Lagu]

I have my hard disc partioned so there is 70 GB on c and 10 GB on D. Totally 80 GB. I have plenty of room on both C and D

[meckano]

If you have winXP, you don't have to babysit the fragmentation, well, if you have the NTFS(NT filing system) on your hard drive.
- It takes alot of fragmentation before it slows down.
- The part about NTFS being more secure I wish I knew more about. Any takers?

[AMDave]

NTFS is a Journaling file system, so yes it is more robust.

[Lagu]

I have Win XP and NTFS. I know that. When I after long use of my computer was tinking to run defrag so was it not in need. So you are right here. NTFS is as NT. However I dont like Windows own defrag.

I hawe Win XP and NTFS. You are right. NTFS is as NT and not in need to run defrag so often.

[Beerknurd]

uh lay off the return button.... :lol:

[Lagu]

Hallo!

http://www.memtest.org/

http://www.acelogix.com/download.html

http://www.tweaknow.com/download.html

Try these links if you are interested. These links has various program for optimisation of memory that Win XP has locked up but not can use. God to have when you will trim the memory without do this through bios. Memtest is for test if your trimmed memory is stable.
You can read about this software on the following links.

Lagu :D

[meckano]

Heyyyyy Laguuuuu, how goes???? hehehe
time for a post edit? lmao

I'll take a look at those links, thanks, I'm in that frame of mind today :)

[meckano]

Oops, forgot to mention,
I have heard bad stories about 3rd party defrag software.
I have never scrapped a hard drive using MS's defrag. :)

Oh, and found time problem, it is on the Home page only, here at AMD Users . com
but in the threads they show correct time for me :D

Edit:
well, still off by 7 minutes or so.

[Empty_5oul]

that just depends when the server and you update your clocks.

[meckano]

Sorry, not what I meant.
Home page is off by an hour and seven minutes.

the threads are only seven minutes

[Empty_5oul]

i agree with the 7 minutes but does anyone care ?????

[meckano]

looks for iggy