Hi John, Are you running VM under Ubuntu, or running Ubuntu in a VM?
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Hi John, Are you running VM under Ubuntu, or running Ubuntu in a VM?
Hi, Dirk:Quote:
Originally Posted by Dirk Broer
I am running the Oracle VM under Ubuntu. I am just starting to learn this beast and there is a steep learning curve for an old guy.....it looks very interesting, though. I will take things slowly with my manual 'Linux all-in-one for Dummies' at my elbow, and I am sure it will be worthwhile.
John
Fascinating stuff, VMs. Makes it easy to run several OS'es on the same physical machine. I never went further than four:
Windows XP, Win98SE, FreeDos and OS/2 on the same machine. Surfed the internet for a while using Arachne under FreeDos in the VM just to upset web stats.....
John, you have picked an interesting subject matter to get into.
You will learn a lot and have fun doing it - I hope.
Remember that any failure is merely a stepping stone on the road to success.
Nflight, may (or may not ;-) ) recall witnessing the ridiculous output I achieved about a year or so ago with 99 linux VMs across a mixture of linux and windows hosts after I went our and bought enough RAM to max out all of my mobos at the time.
I finally ran out of RAM and couldn't get the 100th VM to run, but it was very cool to watch them spewing out the work units and maxing out the bandwidth for a while.
FTR I was using KVM on the big linux machines and VBox on the smaller windows hosts.
I cut my VM images down to the absolute minimum after several replication attempts that tried to gulp more disk than was available.
In the end each image was very small on disk and ram.
It was an interesting and learning experience.
The command line control of VMs is very powerful indeed and worthwhile learning.
What I would recommend doing is keeping a diary of an exercise like that.
I do tend to keep notes on learning experiments like that, but some of what I learned then has already been forgotten and my notes were not well enough kept (mostly due to the excitement of getting it to 'fly').
It's hard to learn but quick to forget, I'm afraid.
I still have pencilled in a follow up activity to do something similar with Linux containers (LXC) to learn more about them.
I have come across more articles recently at LXer news which will help so I'm looking forward to my next deep dive, probably around January/February 2014.
unless I can do something before then.
I hope you enjoy the scenery on that road, John.
There's a couple of tight turns, a few bumps but some terrific scenery at the destination ;)
Thanks, all:
Quite a ride.....I have one VM running and am taking it very slowly. I'm not sure I started with the right machine: the A-10 5800K appears to balk at setting up additional VMs and I have had to dive into the VM manual (shudders). I have installed Ubuntu on the 1090T machine and have some driver tweaking to do before that runs properly. Being retired, I figured it was better to squeeze more out of my current physical assets rather than investing in another 8 core (the FX-9590 is priced way out of my league: it sells for $1,015 Canadian after taxes). I have reached the hardware limit and now want to push for more results from these silicon beasts. I will report from time to time, but the journey will be longer than anticipated.
happy crunching!!
John
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Originally Posted by AMDave
Hi John,
For the price of one FX-9590 you can probably buy ten A10-5800Ks -that already have a nice GPU included with them- outperforming the output of a FX-9590 as well.
An A10-6800K is even slightly more powerful (and expensive) than a A10-5800K and both will also fit in next generation of motherboard -FM2+.
Be sure to fill the mobo with as much RAM as possible when trying to run additional VMs, for a quad I recommend 8GB and for each VM that runs on it an additional 8GB -if you set them up to be virtual quad-cores and running BOINC on them. Normally 1 or 2GB a VM would be enough when you simulate a single core CPU.
Hi, Dirk:
Thanks for the tips.
The journey continues with VM being set up on the FX-8350.
Bon dimanche!
John
I found some time and I got my first real LXC running properly this afternoon. No more need for KVM/QEMU VMs.Quote:
Originally Posted by AMDave
I wonder how John C MacAlister is going?
Hey there, I recently joined the team and hope to contribute a lot both to the many projects that are running and to the team itself in the future ^-^
My specs are:
FX-6300 with a mild OC to 3.8GHz, planning on clocking it higher when I can be bothered
R7 265 clocked at 1050MHz with 2GB of GDDR5 at 1500MHz
I generally run SETI@home on BOINC for 5-8 hours a day, my total credit at this point is around 17,000 and my average credit is about 1,000.
Welcome to the team ghettocomputing, That looks like some new equipment to lead the charge and find some aliens, if we ever do? Again welcome to the Team effort and a few more Team Members will be stopping in to say howdy too! :blob3:
Welcome ghettocomputing!Quote:
Originally Posted by ghettocomputing
Didn't we all -at least we, dinosaurs- start with Seti@Home (somewhere in the previous century) ?:icon_wink:
yup, sure did! :-)
According to the Seti Records, I started crunching on March 4 2001, Wow am I old :blob3:
I began around 2010 with SETI on my crappy celeron based laptop, stopped after a few months as even with some adjustments it was taking up too many system resources. When I built my first gaming rig in 2012, I delved into it a little more then, but it's only very recently that I started crunching seriously
I now have a perfect purpose in mind for any old PCs I come across :P
Keep a keen eye on the number of Watts per core/thread, or you'll be facing a power bill too steep for comfort.Quote:
Originally Posted by ghettocomputing
I remember crunching under an IBM account -using even 80486 machines sometimes-, even before the year 2000...Quote:
Originally Posted by Nflight
These were our premium crunchers then:
http://mastodonpc.tripod.com/persona...s/6577-7bj.jpg
Real 133/166 MHz Pentium monsters (then)...
These our 486 work horses:
http://mastodonpc.tripod.com/persona...s/9577-0ua.jpg
We used them to robotize part of our tasks (password resets), as they were already old school then.
Being developpers we were not allowed the newest as our customers did not have the newest either. At home I was already using a K6III-400....
I have been attempting to add new people by ushering in friend requests on each project that I run. Its arduous and yes we do get some newbies to sign up to our Forum. So I will keep at this effort for some time! :blob3:Quote:
Originally Posted by Beerknurd
Hi, I've just jumped ship from my old team BOINC UK, hope you don't mind me stowing away on here for a year or two, or more, hopefully! I'm currently a big fan of PrimeGen, and have been partaking of their challenges for the last year or so, but hardly anyone joined in with me (in fact for several of the challenges, I was the ONLY member of BOINC UK taking part), and now they've shut down their forum as well. So, this rat is fleeing the sinking ship. I noticed AMD Users are regularly on the team scorechart, and you seem to have an active forum still, and I'm an AMD user myself, so thought I'd add my contribution to your effort from now on. Still haven't found a prime yet, but I keep trying. All my CPUs are blazing away at the February Tour de Primes at the moment (and a little Einstein, I don't want to miss out on the pulsar or gravitational wave searches either!). I also sometimes run Pogs, MilkyWay, & LHC projects, and I have my home-built geiger counter attached and running for Radioactive at home too (and I built a couple for other AMD users members too I see!). I'm not really into the other stuff, I'm a physics kind of man at heart. So, hello everyone! Happy BOINCing! :)
Welcome to the Team Effort KarmannGaz! You are in lots of different projects that is a good thing for most of us are involved in as many as it can help the Team Effort. Again Welcome aboard the AMDUsers Team Effort! :blob3:
Welcome KarmannGaz!
So you haven't found primes either yet? You can also join our team with Radioactive@Home, both Chris and me are using sensors built by you (as you well know I guess)!
edit: I see you already did!
P.S.: in your signature let the images be enclosed with (img)image(/img), but use [ and ] instead of ( and )
Thanks both of you, and I've changed my signature now too, couldn't work out what was different but that was it! :)
Also, I have now got a prime number to my credit in PrimeGrid as well! Unbelievable, all this time I've been trying to no avail, then the first week I join your team and I find one! Annoyingly, I was too slow to get my name against it, I'm just the checker, but still, it's a start and makes me happy. Need to find some more now!
:icon_lol:
Welcome KarmannGaz and congratulations on your first prime number. Persistence pays off at Primegrid. I know I've had plenty of CPU and GPU hours crunching that project. I think Sophie Germaine primes are still the "easiest" to find, but they are still darned hard to catch.
I have trouble catching Sophie Germain WUs in the first place, let alone finding primes in them.....Passed the 100 million mark at PrimeGrid without finding anything worthwhile yet!
The 'P' from my middle name could as well have been meant for persistence.. (But actually stands for Pieter)
Welcome KarmannGaz!
We are happy to have you here, and sorry to hear about BOINC UK shutting down. If anyone else you know wants to come by and say hi they are welcome to.
I'm curious about Radioactive@Home as the project has had little news for a couple of years already. Do you know if there is an easy way to order one of those geiger counters to attach to PC? Their old batch orders have been closed for a long time.
Thanks all!
BOINC UK hasn't shut down as such, they're still there, it's just the forum that's been shut down. To my mind, that's a bit silly, nobody can communicate with other members now (unless they already know them as friends or email/whatever). How can you play as a team when you can't talk to anyone else in the team? It's just a blind points accumulator as far as I'm concerned now, took the fun out of it. I'm glad to see the AMD Users forum seems to be well used anyway, there is still life out here in the BOINC world!
Regarding the Radioactive@home project, I don't think there's an easy way to get hold of a sensor (geiger counter) for it any more. The guy who was the mastermind behind it (Szopler) was only doing it in his spare time, in batches of about a hundred at a time, and he put a message on the news page there about a year or so ago saying he couldn't spare the time any more, so was standing down. The project itself is handled by BOINC Poland now, one of the other founder members (Krzysztof Piszczek) is still around and responds to messages occasionally, but I think he was the software man, not hardware. The circuit diagram(s) are on the message boards somewhere (there are a couple, v2.61 was the latest and best design), and it's easy enough to get the components, but the two sticking points are the circuit boards to put them on, and there's a microcontroller chip which needs programming with the software (firmware) to control the sensor and send count information over the USB line to your computer. The code is available on the message boards, but you'd need to be familiar with compiling C code (or whatever it is, looks like C to me, but I'm a mainframe man and not much experience of C and its variants) plus a programmer tool to zap the code onto the chip. I'm quite happy soldering it all together, if the circuit boards and programmed chips can be got hold of. I've been searching for them on eBay for ages though, and none have turned up. That's a puzzle, as over a hundred were sold, yet there aren't nearly that many showing up on the Radioactive@home world map. There must be some unbuilt or part-built kits out there, but I don't know where. It's interesting though, there always seems to be a trickle of people wanting sensors. I might have another look sometime and see what's involved in programming the chip and how much it would cost to produce a run of circuit boards.
Both Chris Skull and me have obtained a sensor from KarmannGaz, Chris by sending KarmannGaz his own, partially completed, sensor and me by buying a sensor that KarmannGaz had left over.
Though a tad more expensive, a sensor could in theory also be built using a Raspberry, an Arduino-to-Raspberry shield, a radiation board and some other stuff (mainly the geiger counter), though KarmannGaz warned in the past on the Radioactive@Home forum that this built-your-own may not be able to communicate with the project (just as I have with connecting the Raspberry Pi -with SenseHat- to the various Quake Catcher Network projects) .
https://www.cooking-hacks.com/media/..._radiation.JPGhttps://www.cooking-hacks.com/media/...sbm20_tube.jpg
KarmannGaz we also have a chatty Facebook page which gets daily activity along with our Forum. Please feel free to ask to join: :blob3: Welcome to the Team effort...
Hello everyone. I have also come from Boinc UK the Team with no communications. I have been crunching since 2006, I started on WCG, and progressed to most other projects. I prefer Biology and Physics projects but am running the rest too. I also have a radiation monitor very kindly put together for me by KarmannGazz.
Hi Euphoriabuzz,
I saw you an hour earlier when checking my -and the team's- radioactive@home stats. So now there's four of us! We still have a working forum, and a facebook page as well.
Hardware-wise we're fond of AMD-based systems, but we apriciate performance where and when we see it (we have some fierce ARM crunchers here as well, and i7/Xeon fans too).
I started with Seti@Home somewhere around 1998 (then crunching under an IBM-account), later switched to the Ctg-team (my agency then) and when that fell apart -when mass redundancy hit us- I went over to AMD Users, as I have been an AMD user since my 80386SX-25 days. What are you crunching with?
Hi thanks for the hello. I am currently using an AMD FX 8350 8 CORE - and an AMD Radeon R9 390 in my main cruncher, my secondary machine which just chugs along is using a ATi /AMD Radeon HD 6570/6670/7570/7670 series (Turks). I have today migrated all my projects over to the Team apart from Primaboinca that didn't have the ''join team'' option available on your link and Ralph that was down. I shall have to keep an eye on it all as BAM has already reverted me back to Boinc Uk on half my projects, I have reset them again but shall check again tomorrow night. I requested also to join the Facebook page about two weeks ago but have been blocked. I am not online as much as I used to be but appreciate being part of a Team where I can join in and chat as and when I have time.
Hi Euphoriabuzz
Welcome to the Team. Hope you feel at home here, like Dirk said we are AMD Users but really anything that can crunch (GPUs, Intel, ARM, etc) is always more than welcome. I also see you on the Amicable Numbers project. They just sent out an announcement yesterday saying the time is now if you want to find some Amicable Pairs. According to predictions after the project passes the 50% mark it will be a lot more difficult to find them.
I myself am mostly AMD gear oriented, my main machines are a Phenom II X6 1100T and two FX-8370s. I'm reading up and getting ready to upgrade at least one of my machines to a full blown Ryzen/Vega build this year, but I'm still contemplating as I read up on it on the news and reviews. The budget is limited so I have to be sure I get the best bang for the buck even if I have to wait a little more than I want. :rolleyes:
Our admin vaughan should be able to check on the Primaboinca project, I see that sometimes with new projects too, the "Join" button not being there. About the Facebook page I'm not sure but someone there probably can help too. I myself don't have an account on it, and really don't like all the social media stuff. I much rather prefer a simple bulletin board like this and email to communicate.
Hi, yes I only joined Amicable on 4th march so have only 56 pairs so far. Onward and upwards.Quote:
Originally Posted by NeoGen
Name of the project is far more amicable than the project itself (or its admin)...Quote:
Originally Posted by euphoriabuzzHi, yes I only joined Amicable on 4th march so have only 56 pairs so far. Onward and upwards.Quote:
Originally Posted by NeoGen
Hello all,
Thanks to Nflight for the message and pointing me to the forums. I have been a long time user of Boinc, back to the SETI at home days whatever it was called back then. Memories of staying up late to see if I could find some aliens. I got back into BOINC once I was finally able to set up my home server. My newest build is an AMD FX 8320E that I have up to 3.7 ghz so far. My server also hosts a few websites for the family, but most of the time it is crunching. I typically like to focus on the biomedical type projects. I am currently about 2 classes away from completing my masters in data science so bioinformatic type projects are interesting to me. Look forward to contributing to the forums where I can and inserting really bad jokes as necessary!
Hi Tweeder,
Saw you in the rankings for the various projects. Seti@Home must have been the first project for many of us. I remember running it myself as early as 1999, but under an IBM account.
https://setiathome.berkeley.edu/sah_.../smileface.jpg
the earliest screen shot I could find, version 1.0
Welcome to the Forums Tweeder
There are more people listed then actually crunching data. If for some harmonious reason something large would be found using this technique I bet the world would change to finding this type of using computers and start a whole different gambit of user enlistment in using your computer for something good ideas. Yes Our Forums are far from super active except we have hordes of information provided in this forum many thanks to those of us who have been hard at work supplying the needs of the few who read it. Welcome to the AMDUsers Team and enjoy the conversation! :blob3:
Yup Dirk, that Seti screen shot sure brings back some fond memories!! :-) Thanks for posting that!!!
I'm late to this party but, Welcome Tweeder! :icon_mrgreen:
I'm running all AMD machines these days (2x AMD Phenom II X6 1100T, one Dual Opteron 2360SE, and one FX 8370), plus a couple of borrowed laptops from work with the CPU from the brand whose name shall not be spoken. :icon_lol:
I'm planning to gradually decommission my machines this year and start building Ryzen builds! It's so sad that just a couple of Ryzen 7's could make up more cores than I currently have total across all my machines, and all of them be faster and more efficient, but that's how technology works I guess.
I look forward to those really bad jokes you talk about! :icon_lol:
Aren't they supposed to be blue? BTW: Anybody here running VIA CPUs? There's a tool that runs on VIA CPUs that shows how some software gets manipulated by the CPUID.Quote:
Originally Posted by NeoGen
Hi Tweeder, from another newbie. Welcome to the Team.