New series of GPU cards

nVidia just seem to have released a GT1030 specially against the Radeon RX 550. What is so special about the Radeon RX 500 series?
Let's start with the RX 550

Model/Type	GPU	Fab (nm)	Shaders	TMU	ROP	GFLOP SP	GFLOP DP	GFLOP HP	TBP	Gflop(SP) /Watt	Gflop(DP) /Watt	Gflop(HP) /Watt
Radeon RX 500 Series							1/16 of SP
Radeon RX 540 (OEM)	Cape Verde PRX	28	512	32	16	1248	78.0	?	65	19.20	1.20	?
Radeon RX 550	Polaris 12	14	512	32	16	1211	75.7	1211	50	24.22	1.51	24.22
Radeon RX 560	Polaris 11	14	1024	64	16	2406	150.4	2406	80	30.01	1.88	30.01
Radeon RX 570	Polaris 20	14	2048	128	32	4784	300.0	4784	150	31.89	2.00	31.89
Radeon RX 580	Polaris 20	14	2304	144	32	5792	362.0	5792	185	31.31	2.13	31.31
Radeon Pro Duo Polaris	2x Polaris 20	14	4608	288	64	11456	716.0	11456	250	45.82	2.86	45.82

The RX 550 is a very capable card in view of its power needs, a mere 50 Watt. Those willing to spend a little more on purchase and power bills can choose for the even more capable RX 560
The TBP (Typical Board Power) of the RX 560 is actually 60-80 Watt, so the GFLOPS/Watt may be even better yet.

What does nVidia offer?

Model/Type	GPU	Fab (nm)	Shaders	TMU	ROP	GFLOP SP	GFLOP DP	GFLOP HP	TBP	Gflop(SP) /Watt	Gflop(DP) /Watt	Gflop(HP) /Watt
Geforce 10 Series							1/32 of SP
GeForce GT 1030	GP108-300-A1	16	384	24	8	952	30	15	30	31.73	1.00	0.50
GeForce GTX 1050	GP107-300-A1	14	640	40	32	1733	54	27	75	23.11	0.72	0.36
GeForce GTX 1050 Ti	GP107-400-A1	14	768	48	32	1981	62	31	75	26.41	0.83	0.41
GeForce GTX 1060 3GB	GP106-300-A1	16	1152	72	48	3470	108	54	120	28.92	0.90	0.45
GeForce GTX 1060 6GB	GP106-400/410-A1	16	1280	80	48	3855	120	60	120	32.13	1.00	0.50
GeForce GTX 1070	GP104-200-A1	16	1920	120	64	5783	181	90	150	38.56	1.21	0.60
GeForce GTX 1080	GP104-400/410-A1	16	2560	160	64	8228	257	128	180	45.71	1.43	0.71
GeForce GTX 1080 Ti	GP102-350-K1-A1	16	3584	224	88	10609	332	166	250	42.44	1.33	0.66
nVidia Titan X	GP102-400-A1	16	3584	224	96	10157	317	159	250	40.63	1.27	0.64
nVidia Titan Xp	GP102-450-A1	16	3840	240	96	12150*	380*	190*	250	48.61	1.52	0.76

*=Normal values unknown yet. For the Titan Xp I only know of the 'Turbo boost' values, at the moment.

Considering the fact that most projects only ask for Single precision, the GT 1030 offers real value. But when we take double precision performance (e.g. MilkyWay) into account, nVidia is fighting a lost battle as they have sacrificed that feature to boost the sales of their professional (Quadro/Tesla) cards. I do not know yet of the effects of the half-precision performance, but nVidia seems to have made the wrong choice there too by offering Half-precision at 1/64th of the Single precision while AMD offers it at the same GFLOPS as the single precision. There ought to be projects where AMD cards smash the nVidia cards, performance-wise.

Nice table there Dirk... and indeed it seems in raw computation capacity and computation per watt, which is what matters most in distributed computing, we have the winners in this tier! :)

Good work Dirk, I'd love to see all the cards GTX1060, GTX1070 through to GTX1080 Ti too :)

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Good work Dirk, I'd love to see all the cards GTX1060, GTX1070 through to GTX1080 Ti too :)

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Blistering performance equals blistering power bills:5eek: too, but I'll take care of it

nVidia just seem to have released a GTX 1650/1660 specially against the Radeon Vega and upcoming Navi. What is so special about the Radeon Vega series? Will Navi be even better?
But let's first start with the RX 500 series

Model/Type	GPU	Fab (nm)	Shaders	TMUs	ROPs	Compute Units	GFLOP SP	GFLOP DP	GFLOP HP	TBP	Gflop(SP) /Watt	Gflop(DP) /Watt	Gflop(HP) /Watt
Radeon RX 500 Series								1/16 of SP
Radeon RX 540	Lexa	14	512	32	16	8	1151	71.9	1151	50	23.02	1.44	23.02
Radeon RX 550	Lexa	14	512	32	16	8	1247	77.95	1247	50	24.94	1.56	24.94
Radeon RX 560	Baffin	14	1024	64	16	16	2611	163.2	2611	75	34.81	2.18	34.81
Radeon RX 570	Polaris 20XL	14	2048	128	32	32	5095	318.5	5095	120	42.46	2.65	42.46
Radeon RX 580	Polaris 20XTX	14	2304	144	32	36	6175	385.9	6175	185	33.38	2.09	33.38
Radeon RX 590	Polaris 30XT	12	2304	144	32	36	7119	445.0	7119	175	40.68	2.54	40.68
Radeon Pro Duo Polaris	Ellesmere Gemini G	14	2x 2304	2x 144	2x 32	2x 36	11456	716.0	11456	250	45.82	2.86	45.82
Radeon Vega Series								1/16 of SP
Radeon Vega 56	1x Vega 10XL	14	3584	224	64	56	10570	660.4	21140	210	50.33	3.14	100.66
Radeon Vega 64	1x Vega 64	14	4096	256	64	64	12580	786.4	25160	295	42.64	2.67	85.29
Radeon VII Series								1/4 of SP
Radeon VII	1x Vega 20XT	7	3840	240	64	60	13440	3360	26880	295	45.56	11.39	91.12
Radeon 5000 Series								1/16 of SP
Radeon RX 5500	1x Navi 14 XT	7	1408	88	32	22	5196	324.7	10392	150	34.64	2.16	69.28
Radeon RX 5500 XT	1x Navi 14 XTX	7	1408	88	32	22	5196	324.7	10392	130	39.97	2.50	79.94
Radeon RX 5600	1x Navi 10 XE	7	2048	128	64	32	6390	399.4	12780	150	42.60	2.66	85.20
Radeon RX 5600 XT	1x Navi 10 XLE	7	2304	144	64	36	8066	504.0	16131	160	50.41	3.15	100.81
Radeon RX 5700	1x Navi 10XL	7	2304	144	64	36	7949	496.8	15900	180	44.16	2.76	88.33
Radeon RX 5700XT	1x Navi 10XT	7	2560	160	64	40	9754	609.6	19510	225	43.35	2.70	86.71
Radeon RX 5700XT 50th Anniversary	1x Navi 10XTX	7	2560	160	64	40	10138	633.6	20276	235	43.14	2.69	86.28

The RX 550 is a very capable card in view of its power needs, a mere 50 Watt. Those willing to spend a little more on purchase and power bills can choose for the even more capable RX 560
The TBP (Typical Board Power) of the RX 560 is actually 60-80 Watt, so the GFLOPS/Watt may be even better yet. The Radeon VII seems tailor-made for MilkyWay@Home.

What does nVidia offer?

Model/Type	GPU	Fab (nm)	Shaders	TMUs	ROPs	Compute Units	GFLOP SP	GFLOP DP	GFLOP HP	TBP	Gflop(SP) /Watt	Gflop(DP) /Watt	Gflop(HP) /Watt
Geforce 10 Series	Pascal							1/32 of SP
GeForce GT 1030	GP108-300-A1	14	384	24	16	3	1127	35.23	17.62	30	37.57	1.17	0.59
GeForce GTX 1050	GP107-300-A1	14	640	40	32	5	1862	58.2	29.1	75	24.83	0.78	0.39
GeForce GTX 1050 Ti	GP107-400-A1	14	768	48	32	6	2138	66.82	33.41	75	28.51	0.89	0.45
GeForce GTX 1060 3GB	GP106-300-A1	16	1152	72	48	9	3935	123	61.5	120	32.79	1.03	0.51
GeForce GTX 1060 6GB	GP106-400/410-A1	16	1280	80	48	10	4375	136.7	68.35	120	36.46	1.14	0.57
GeForce GTX 1070	GP104-200-A1	16	1920	120	64	15	6463	202.0	101.0	150	43.09	1.35	0.67
GeForce GTX 1070 Ti	GP104-300-A1	16	2432	152	64	19	8186	255.8	127.9	180	45.48	1.42	0.71
GeForce GTX 1080	GP104-400/410-A1	16	2560	160	64	20	8873	277.3	138.6	180	49.29	1.54	0.77
GeForce GTX 1080 Ti	GP102-350-K1-A1	16	3584	224	88	28	11340	354.4	177.2	250	45.36	1.42	0.71
nVidia Titan X	GP102-400-A1	16	3584	224	96	28	10970	342.9	171.5	250	43.88	1.37	0.69
nVidia Titan Xp	GP102-450-A1	16	3840	240	96	30	12150	379.7	189.8	250	48.60	1.52	0.76
Geforce 20 Series	Turing							1/32 of SP
GeForce RTX 2060	TU106-200A-KA-A1	12	1920	120	48	30	6451	201.6	12902	160	40.32	1.26	80.64
GeForce RTX 2060 Super	TU106-410-A1	12	2176	136	64	34	7181	224.4	14362	160	44.88	1.40	89.76
GeForce RTX 2070	TU106-400-A1	12	2304	144	64	36	7465	233.3	14930	175	42.66	1.33	85.31
GeForce RTX 2070 Super	TU104-410-A1	12	2560	160	64	40	9062	283.2	18124	215	42.15	1.32	84.30
GeForce RTX 2080	TU104-400-A1	12	2944	184	64	46	10070	314.6	20140	215	46.84	1.46	93.67
GeForce RTX 2080 Super	TU104-450-A1	12	3072	192	64	48	11150	348.5	22300	215	51.86	1.62	103.72
GeForce RTX 2080 Ti	TU102-300-K1-A1	12	4352	272	88	68	13450	420.2	26900	250	53.8	1.68	107.6
nVidia Titan RTX	TU102-400-A1	12	4608	288	96	72	16310	509.8	32620	280	58.25	1.82	116.5
Geforce 16 Series	Turing							1/32 of SP
GeForce GTX 1650	TU117-300-A1	12	896	56	32	14	2984	93.2	5967	75	39.79	1.24	79.56
GeForce GTX 1650 Ti	TU117-400-A1	12	1024	64	32	16	3533	110.4	7066	75	47.11	1.47	94.21
GeForce GTX 1650 Super	TU116-250-KA-A1	12	1280	80	32	20	4416	138.0	8832	100	44.16	1.38	88.32
GeForce GTX 1660	TU116-300-A1	12	1408	88	48	22	5027	157.1	10054	120	41.89	1.31	83.78
GeForce GTX 1660 Super	TU116-300-A1	12	1408	88	48	22	5027	157.1	10054	125	40.22	1.26	80.43
GeForce GTX 1660 Ti	TU116-400-A1	12	1536	96	48	24	5437	169.9	10874	120	45.31	1.42	90.62
	Volta							1/2 of SP
nVidia Titan V	GV100-400-A1	12	5120	320	96	80	14900	7450	29800	250	59.6	29.8	119.2
nVidia Titan V CEO edition	GV100	12	5120	320	128	80	14900	7450	29800	250	59.6	29.8	119.2

Considering the fact that most projects only ask for Single Precision, the GT 1030 offers real value. But when we take half or double precision performance (e.g. MilkyWay) into account, nVidia is fighting a lost battle as they have sacrificed those features to boost the sales of their professional (Quadro/Tesla) or semi-professional (Titan V) cards. I do not know yet of the effects of the half-precision performance, but nVidia seemed to have made the wrong choice in the GeForce 10-series by offering Half-Precision at 1/64th of the Single Precision while AMD offers it at the same or later even at double the GFLOPS as compared to the Single Precision. There ought to be projects where the AMD cards smash the nVidia GeForce 10-series cards, performance-wise. nVidia hasn't made that mistake with the GeForce 20- and GeForce 16-series though. The GeForce 16xx 'Super' models feature GDDR6 RAM (like the GeForce 20 series), with increased bandwidth. The old Titan V's can still be used as a Radeon VII killer and offer an even better DP performance.

My eVGA GTX1660 ti runs really well, considering it is running 24/7.

From what I read somewhere, I think it was at Serve The Home the AMD vega cards pump out too much heat.

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My eVGA GTX1660 ti runs really well, considering it is running 24/7.

From what I read somewhere, I think it was at Serve The Home the AMD vega cards pump out too much heat.

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One can only hope that the NAVI cards, produced at 7nm, will solve that problem

Thank you Dirk, this mesmerizing chart has gone and caused me to miss an appt. in my busy schedule. :( Well at least I am going to follow in Vaughan's footsteps with my next GPU choice! Thank you Vaughan and Dirk!

here's a "review thread" for the 1650. sadly, there's no TechReport review. i loooove their frametimes/frames spent past x milliseconds. GamersNexus has a few frametime graphs, tho

https://www.reddit.com/r/hardware/co...launch_thread/

the RX570 slaps it down nicely, tho. (tho i might suggest a used Fury for ~$110-130 on eBay if you've got the power)

on the other hand, looks like Navi might be GCN. again. i'll reserve judgement for after reviews, but at least this tempers what i'm going to expect from it

I have updated the table for even newer GPU's (and adjusted the values to those given at https://www.techpowerup.com/ ) Some big changes!

not impressed with compute performance (tho not surprised), but i AM impressed by its gaming performance!

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not impressed with compute performance (tho not surprised), but i AM impressed by its gaming performance!

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The GeForce GTX 1650 Ti, or the GeForce GTX 1660 Ti?

Updated the charts, Radeon RX 5600 XT is our present champion

Here he/she is, compared to some former champions:

Model/Type	GPU	Fab (nm)	Shaders	TMUs	ROPs	Compute Units	GFLOP SP	GFLOP DP	GFLOP HP	TBP	Gflop(SP) /Watt	Gflop(DP) /Watt	Gflop(HP) /Watt
Radeon HD 5970	Hemlock XT =2x Cypress XT	40	2x 1600	2x 80	2x 2	20	4640	928.0	-	294	15.78	3.16	-
Radeon HD 7990	Malta XT =2x Tahiti XT2	28	2x 2048	2x 128	2x 32	32	8192	2048.0	-	375	21.85	5.46	-
Radeon RX 5600 XT	1x Navi 10 XLE	7	2304	144	64	36	8066	504.0	16131	160	50.41	3.15	100.81

can't remember. probably both.

has the 5700/5700XT/5600XT gotten any better at compute since launch?

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can't remember. probably both.

has the 5700/5700XT/5600XT gotten any better at compute since launch?

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I don't know for the 5600XT, which is new in the charts. Wikipedia reports higher values than I had before for the 5700/5700XT.

Here is a recent article on the competition between GPU's https://www.tomshardware.com/feature...e=notification

And then someone posts this ideal solution, ARM server involved: https://www.anandtech.com/show/15621...e=notification

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And then someone posts this ideal solution, ARM server involved: https://www.anandtech.com/show/15621...e=notification

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Erh.....where's the GPU in the Cavium ThunderX3 server? It is a fantastic ARM CPU, 96 Cores/384 Threads, ARMv8.3 instruction set, but does the ThunderX3 server have PCIe slots?

Edit: I found a Cavium ThunderX2 server with a nVidia GT 710.

BOINC-wise the only caveat is the screaming lack of 64-bit Linux ARM applications.
With the few projects that have such apps you can sure make a big dent using an dual ThunderX3 machine.....768 threads pumping WUs direction project server.
You would need 128 Odroid-N2's to do the same, or 192 Raspberry Pi 4's!

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Updated the charts, Radeon RX 5600 XT is our present champion

Here he/she is, compared to some former champions:

Model/Type	GPU	Fab (nm)	Shaders	TMUs	ROPs	Compute Units	GFLOP SP	GFLOP DP	GFLOP HP	TBP	Gflop(SP) /Watt	Gflop(DP) /Watt	Gflop(HP) /Watt
Radeon HD 5970	Hemlock XT =2x Cypress XT	40	2x 1600	2x 80	2x 2	20	4640	928.0	-	294	15.78	3.16	-
Radeon HD 7990	Malta XT =2x Tahiti XT2	28	2x 2048	2x 128	2x 32	32	8192	2048.0	-	375	21.85	5.46	-
Radeon RX 5600 XT	1x Navi 10 XLE	7	2304	144	64	36	8066	504.0	16131	160	50.41	3.15	100.81

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And here are the new 6000-series:

Model/Type	GPU	Fab (nm)	Shaders	TMUs	ROPs	Compute Units	GFLOP SP	GFLOP DP	GFLOP HP	TBP	Gflop(SP) /Watt	Gflop(DP) /Watt	Gflop(HP) /Watt
Radeon RX 6400	1x Navi 24XL	6	768	48	32	12	3,565	222.8	7,130	53	67.26	4.20	134.52
Radeon RX 6500XT	1x Navi 24XT	6	1024	64	32	16	5,765	360.3	11,530	113	51.02	3.19	102.04
Radeon RX 6600	1x Navi 23XL	7	1792	112	64	28	8,928	558.0	17,860	132	67.64	4.23	135.30
Radeon RX 6600XT	1x Navi 23XT	7	2048	128	64	32	10,605	662.8	21,209	160	66.28	4.14	132.56
Radeon RX 6700	1x Navi 22 XTL	7	2304	144	64	36	10,370	648	20,740	180	57.61	3.60	115.22
Radeon RX 6700XT	1x Navi 22 XT	7	2560	192	64	40	11,520	720	23,040	200	57.60	3.60	115.20
Radeon RX 6800	1x Navi 21 XL	7	3840	240	96	60	16,166	1,010	32,333	250	64.66	4.04	129.33
Radeon RX 6800XT	1x Navi 21 XT	7	4608	288	128	72	20,736	1,296	41,472	300	69.12	4.32	138.24
Radeon RX 6900XT	1x Navi 21 XTX	7	5120	320	128	80	23,040	1,440	46,080	300	76.80	4.80	153.60

What would the 6600XT be capable of, I wonder?

And here are the competitors from the green camp:

Model/Type	GPU	Fab (nm)	Shaders	TMUs	ROPs	Compute Units	GFLOP SP	GFLOP DP	GFLOP HP	TBP	Gflop(SP) /Watt	Gflop(DP) /Watt	Gflop(HP) /Watt
GeForce RTX 3050	GA106-150	8	2560	80	32	20	9,098	142	9,098	130	69.98	1.09	69.98
GeForce RTX 3060	GA106-300-A1	8	3584	112	64	28	12,740	199	12,740	170	74.94	1.17	74.94
GeForce RTX 3060 Ti	GA104-200-A1	8	4864	152	80	38	16,197	253	16,197	200	80.99	1.27	80.99
GeForce RTX 3070	GA104-300-A1	8	5888	184	96	46	20,372	318	20,372	220	92.60	1.45	92.60
GeForce RTX 3080	GA102-200-K1-A1	8	8704	272	96	68	29,768	465	29,768	320	93.03	1.45	93.03
GeForce RTX 3090	GA102-300-A1	8	10496	328	112	82	35,686	558	35,686	350	101.96	1.59	101.96

If it is single precision you are after, nVidia is the card. For double or half precision: go AMD. nVidia is also the brand to go for in case of Tensor-based computation at the moment.

Great work on the charts. It is interesting and helpful to see the performance per watt for out next investments.

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Great work on the charts. It is interesting and helpful to see the performance per watt for out next investments.

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One can only hope for a RX 6500 and a RTX 3050 for the sake of crunching on a budget, I can't afford 300 Watt cards running 24/7...

Those double precision values (as well as per watt) on the 6900 XT are making me drool... :)

I added the GeForce RTX 3600 and the Radeons RX 6700 and 6700XT

Radeons RX 6400, RX 6500XT and RX 6600 added