This thread is showing its worth with all the heat from the conversation about the high outputs of potential, if only the wallets could handle so much. Some day, maybe some day soon![]()
Challenge me, or correct me, but don't ask me to die quietly.
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Keep your gun powder dry untill the 32-core AMD Zen comes out...
Wellllllll....... As the saying goes there's no free lunch. If there's much output there's gonna be heat. Today I farted around and stuffed a GTX970 in a system and have it running off some work units from asteroids@home. Takes roughly a half hour to process one. I don't know yet whar kind of credit will be granted them. Hopefully it's more than the 480 from the cpu ones. Otherwise it won't be worthwhile to grind them out from the gpu compared to what the octocore can put out in 24hours. Will see.
That 32 core puppy will be a pricey little devil. lol
edit: Well the gpu workunits get the same credit as the cpu. So the reality is that it's pretty much a wash, either the GTX-970 or the octocore 5960X.
Last edited by Brucifer; 03-11-2016 at 05:10 AM.
I feel the chatter, I am beginning to see some serious heat trails and burners set on low even though the gun powder is stored in a col dry place I can't help imagine a world where Intel is squeemish!
From CERN - The 32 cores and eight-channel DDR4 memory interface are about double what Intel offers now in its high-end Xeon processors, and the move to 14nm will put it on par with Intel. Currently, AMD's server chips are built on a 28nm manufacturing process.
Last edited by Nflight; 03-11-2016 at 01:52 PM. Reason: added wording duh
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As I now have the data (to be taken with a pinch of salt):
The real progress is in the server and enthusiast user groups, the question is e.g. whether a two-core Zen chip needs eight-channel RAM. Sixteen RAM slots do not fit an iTX board either.
Socket old Cores/threads old Socket new Cores new Threads new Use RAM prediction AM1 2-4 (Sempron)
4 (Athlon) FM4 2 4 'essential' two slots
dual channel FM2+ 2 A4 & A6
4 A8 & A10 FM4 2-4 4-8 'mainstream' two to four slots
dual channel AM3+ 4 FX-4xxx
6 FX-6xxx
8 FX-8xxx FM4 8-16 16-32 'enthusiast' four to eight slots
quad channel C32 up to 2x 4-8 FM4 16-32 per cpu 32-64 per cpu 'light server' 8 to 16 slots per cpu
quad channel G34 up to 4x 4-16 FM4 16-32 per cpu 32-64 per cpu 'heavy server' 16 slots per cpu
octa channel
Last edited by Dirk Broer; 06-03-2016 at 11:48 PM.
Well, I hope for the 32-core/64-thread model to have a TDP of at max 140 Watt, which would mean for a -as yet hypothetically- quad mobo 4x140=560 Watt (TDP)
And I hope you can start with just one CPU on that board, later adding more as budget permits. A dual setup is only 280 Watt (TDP) and still 128 threads.
BTW: 8-channel RAM means each CPU/Mobo ought to have at least 8 RAM DIMMS...Socket 1366 Nehalem had six RAM slots for triple channel RAM, Socket 2011 eight RAM slots for quad channel, remember? So expect sixteen RAM slots per Zen-Opteron, that's 64(!) RAM slots to fill for a quad Zen-Mobo.....
560 Watt (TDP) for 256 threads is slightly more than 2 Watts (TDP) per thread. I think a quad Zen is cheaper to run than a 'classic' farm:
560 Watt can easily be reached with some 125 Watt FX CPUs, 95 Watt FX CPUs, 100 Watt APUs or 65 Watt APUs.
In my case, x86-64 farm:
i7-3770: 77 Watt
A10-5700: 65 Watt
A8-3870K: 100 Watt
A8-3820: 65 Watt
C2Q8200: 95 Watt
Athlon 5350: 25 Watt
Athlon 5350: 25 Watt
Athlon 5350: 25 Watt
A8-3850: 100 Watt (decommissioned in favour of a 25 Watt 5350, now part of Emergency only reserve)
A6-3500: 65 Watt (decommissioned in favour of a A10-5700, long-time part of Emergency only reserve)
ARM farm
Raspberry Pi 3 Cortex-A53: 5 Watt (inactive yet, just bought)
Raspberry Pi 2 Cortex-A7: 4 Watt
Raspberry Pi 2 Cortex-A7: 4 Watt
Raspberry Pi B+ ARM11: 3 Watt
BeagleBone Black Cortex-A8: 3 Watt
Cubieboard 4 Allwinner A80: inactive, because I can't get video from it -seems to be working right further, all lights function. Even get different shades of black-grey on screen while booting.
Banana Pro Allwinner A20: inactive, because I can't get video from it -not sure whether it even boots, only one red light blinking. May have defective SD-card reader...
Last edited by Dirk Broer; 03-12-2016 at 01:43 PM.
Well I sorta am inclined to think that I won't be purchasing any more high wattage systems. I'm currently more into smaller sized stuff so that I can move it easily between Oregon and Washington. The NUC works out really well for me in that regard, and I will be picking up one of the latest releases shortly. I see on your list you have a raspberry 3. :-) That should be a fun one. Been playing with Chrome on the compute stick, it works well and I'm impressed with it. :-)