Fractal Design vs Thermaltake

[Dirk Broer]

As some of you may have noticed, Thermaltake, with their Suppressor F51, has taken a beating -internet-wise- for the alleged copying of Fractal Design's Define R5:

They do look similair, don't they? But let's take a deeper look and compare the Fractal Design Defines R4, R5 and XL R2 with the Thermaltake Suppressors F31 and F51.

	Fractal Design Define R4	Fractal Design Define R5	Fractal Design Define XL R2	Thermaltake Suppressor F31	Thermaltake Suppressor F51
Height	464 mm	451 mm	560 mm	497 mm (19.5 inch)	525 mm (20.6 inch)
Width	232 mm	232 mm	232 mm	250 mm (9.8 inch)	230 mm (9.1 inch)
Deepness	523 mm	521 mm	559 mm	515 mm (20.3 inch)	577 mm (22.7 inch)
Max Motherboard	12”x 9.6” (ATX)	12”x 9.6” (ATX)	12”x 13” (EATX)	12”x 9.6” (ATX)	12”x 13” (EATX)
Cooler height	170 mm	180 mm	170 mm	180 mm	185 mm
GPU length	295 mm (with HDD rack) 430 mm (without HDD rack)	310 mm (with HDD rack) 440 mm (without HDD rack)	330 mm (with HDD rack) 480 mm (without HDD rack)	278 mm (with HDD rack) 420 mm (without HDD rack)	310 mm (with HDD rack) 465 mm (without HDD rack)
PSU length	170mm with one bottom fan	190/170 mm with a bottom 120/140mm fan	190mm with one bottom fan	180mm with one bottom fan	220mm with one bottom fan
Front fans	2x 120 mm or 2x 140 mm	2x 120 mm or 2x 140 mm	2x 120 mm or 2x 140 mm	2x 120 mm or 2x 140 mm or 1x 200 mm	3x 120 mm or 2x 140 mm or 1x 200 mm
Rear fans	1x 120 or 1x 140 mm	1x 120 or 1x 140 mm	1x 120 or 1x 140 mm	1x 120 or 1x 140 mm	1x 120 or 1x 140 mm
Top fans	2x 120 mm or 2x 140 mm	3x 120 mm or 3x 140 mm	2x 120 mm or 2x 140 mm	3x 120 mm or 3x 140 mm or 2x 200 mm	3x 120 mm or 3x 140 mm or 2x 200 mm
Bottom fans	1x 120 or 1x 140 mm	2x 120 mm or 2x 140 mm	1x 120 mm or 1x 140 mm	2x 120 mm or 2x 140 mm	2x 120 mm
Side fans	1x 120 or 1x 140 mm	1x 120 or 1x 140 mm	1x 120 or 1x 140 mm	1x 120 or 1x 140 mm	1x 120 or 1x 140 mm
Front radiator	?	3x 120 mm or 2x 140 mm	2x 120 mm	3x 120 mm or 2x 140 mm or 2x 180 mm	3x 120 mm or 2x 140 mm or 2x 180 mm or 3x 140 mm
Rear radiator	?	1x 120 or 1x 140 mm	1x 120 or 1x 140 mm	1x 120 or 1x 140 mm	1x 120 or 1x 140 mm
Top radiator	2x 120 mm	3x 120 mm or 2x 140 mm or 3x 140 mm	2x 120 mm or 2x 140 mm	3x 120 mm or 2x 140 mm or 2x 180 mm	3x 120 mm or 2x 140 mm or 2x 180 mm or 3x 140 mm
Bottom radiator	?	1x 120 or 2x 120 mm	1x 120 mm	1x 120 or 1x 140 mm	1x 120 or 2x 120 mm

[vaughan]

I have a few Fractal Design R5s, good cases. No Thermaltake here.

[Dirk Broer]

I have a few Fractal Design R5s, good cases. No Thermaltake here.

I have added the cooling options to the table. The Fractal Design Define R5 looks like a good case and costs around 100 Euro's over here,
the same price as the Thermaltake Suppressor F31. The somewhat bigger Thermaltake Suppressor F51 costs 145 Euro's.
A bit of a let-down of the F51 is the lack of SSI EEB holes, which you seem to have to make yourself when fitting a SSI EEB board, such as the ASUS Z10PE-D16 WS or the KGPE-D16.