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    The Ubuntu family

    The Ubuntu family, the most commonly used:
    Flavor
    Desktop Unity Gnome KDE Mate Xfce LXDE
    CPU Req 2 GHz dual core processor
    (better recommended), or
    ARM Cortex A7
    (better recommended)
    2 GHz Celeron
    (better recommended)
    2 GHz x86
    (better recommended)
    Pentium 4 or
    Pentium M or
    AMD K8
    (Core 2 Duo 1.6 GHz
    or better recommended), or
    ARM Cortex A7
    (better recommended)
    Pentium 4 or
    Pentium M or
    AMD K8
    (better recommended)
    Pentium 4 or
    Pentium M or
    AMD K8
    (better recommended)
    RAM Req x86: 2 GB
    (more recommended),
    ARM: 1 GB
    1.5 GB
    (more recommended)
    512 MB
    (1 GB or more recommended)
    x86: 512 MB
    (2 GB or more recommended),
    ARM: 1 GB
    512 MB or more
    (minimum install can
    be done with 128 MB)
    128-384 MB
    (512 MB or more recommended)
    OS size x86: 7-25 GB,
    ARM: Less than 16 GB
    7-16 GB 4-10 GB 8-16 GB,
    ARM: Less than 16 GB
    2-6 GB 384-800 MB
    NB: Updated for 16.04 LTS versions! Note the change in minimum required CPU: no longer will a Pentium II (Lubuntu) or III or a AMD K7 (Xubuntu) do, it seems...
    The minimum requirement figures given take into account the install on a 32-bit ('legacy') system.
    When you have a 64-bit system you have the advantage of a better CPU than these minimum requirements and almost no limitation in the amount of RAM -the more the better- you can place, other than the limits of your mobo.

    Most x86 systems (read x86-64 systems) nowadays can take at least 8 GB of RAM and a speed of 1.5 GHz for a CPU, APU or SOC seems the bare minimum now.
    As an example: My 'budget' 2050 MHz Athlon 5350 Socket AM1 Ubuntu and Xubuntu systems are loaded with 16 GB of DDR3 RAM.
    You may have some older hardware lying around though....

    ARM boards as the Raspberry Pi 2 and 3 are very limited in the expandability of system RAM (as in you just can't do it): when you find out that the 1 GB of the Pi 2 or 3 will not be enough, you should consider e.g. the 2 GB -and 2 MHz- ARM Cortex-A53 equipped Odroid C2.
    I am having no trouble running Ubuntu Mate 16.04 on my 2nd Raspi 2 though and I expect an even more pleasant experience running it on the (faster) Raspberry Pi 3.
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    Updated the Ubuntu family table for release 16.04 LTS, as can be seen below/above, depending on your settings:

    Settings - My Account - General Settings - Thread Display Mode : option 'Linear - Newest First'

    to see the newest postings above in a thread.
    Last edited by Dirk Broer; 06-16-2016 at 11:52 PM.

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    Ubuntu 1404_HWE_EOL message and what to do if you have a AMD HDxxxx vido card AND are depending on fglrx and OpenCL (eg us BOINC users)

    For a little bit more info on how this came about have a closer read of this post: https://lwn.net/Articles/693723/
    So, Ubuntu/Canonical introduced this HWE "hack" themselves from 14.04.2.
    Key statement --> " The intention has always been for these hardware enablement stacks to only remain supported until the introduction of the kernel and graphics stack derived from 16.04"

    So, if you start getting the un-expected 1404_HWE_EOL dialog with the "Settings + Install + Cancel" buttons, click cancel until you have read some more about it.
    https://wiki.ubuntu.com/1404_HWE_EOL

    YMMV:
    the install button brings down 14.04.5.
    Bad news.
    This particular release point back-ports 16.04 kernel & graphics stack which means
    BOOM - no more fglrx, + "GPU not present" = no more AMD HDxxxx OpenCL crunch + no more BOINC GPGPU for you.

    So, either put up with the dialog and keep hitting "cancel", or try the step that I missed at the very bottom of the 1404_HWE_EOL page here:
    https://wiki.ubuntu.com/1404_HWE_EOL
    unfortunately I missed that and so I have not tried it and I probably wont.
    I need my boxen to run, and update without hassle, hence the LTS choice in the first place.

    I am uncomfortable about the way they have pushed this strategy on LTS users without clearly (much much more clearly) laying out the plan and consequences before hand and exactly which release point will be installed when you click on that "Install" button.
    Something else that is completely unclear from the information they have available is, if you do roll back the OS and remove the HWE, what does that impact?
    General users should not have to be "guessing" at what the HWE is actually doing for them, whether or not their machine is dependent on it not getting completely shafted when they click on the recommended Install button.

    This is not ok. It's just enough to trigger a distro move to one where you can trust your LTS term.
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    HD 47xx/48xxx already suffered earlier (only good with older OSes now, e.g. WinXP) but, as I already wrote after updating to 16.04 myself,
    the new Ubuntu LTS now uses the Open Source driver, and will no longer accept fglrx and/or the AMD OpenCL SDK.
    My rather recent GPU -actually the integrated graphics of the Athlon 5350- is found but: no CAL/Brook+, and OpenCL only up to 1.1, which is useless for nowadays crunching.

    Fri 02 Sep 2016 01:42:08 AM CEST | | Starting BOINC client version 7.6.31 for x86_64-pc-linux-gnu
    Fri 02 Sep 2016 01:42:08 AM CEST | | log flags: file_xfer, sched_ops, task
    Fri 02 Sep 2016 01:42:08 AM CEST | | Libraries: libcurl/7.47.0 OpenSSL/1.0.2g zlib/1.2.8 libidn/1.32 librtmp/2.3
    Fri 02 Sep 2016 01:42:08 AM CEST | | Data directory: /var/lib/boinc-client
    Fri 02 Sep 2016 01:42:08 AM CEST | | OpenCL: AMD/ATI GPU 0: AMD KABINI (DRM 2.43.0, LLVM 3.8.0) (driver version 11.2.0, device version OpenCL 1.1 MESA 11.2.0, 1024MB, 1024MB available, 96 GFLOPS peak)
    Fri 02 Sep 2016 01:42:08 AM CEST | | Host name: MSI-AM1i
    Fri 02 Sep 2016 01:42:08 AM CEST | | Processor: 4 AuthenticAMD AMD Athlon(tm) 5350 APU with Radeon(tm) R3 [Family 22 Model 0 Stepping 1]
    Fri 02 Sep 2016 01:42:08 AM CEST | | Processor features: fpu vme de pse tsc msr pae mce cx8 apic sep mtrr pge mca cmov pat pse36 clflush mmx fxsr sse sse2 ht syscall nx mmxext fxsr_opt pdpe1gb rdtscp lm constant_tsc rep_good nopl nonstop_tsc extd_apicid aperfmperf eagerfpu pni pclmulqdq monitor ssse3 cx16 sse4_1 sse4_2 movbe popcnt aes xsave avx f16c lahf_lm cmp_legacy svm extapic cr8_legacy abm sse4a misalignsse 3dnowprefetch osvw ibs skinit wdt topoext perfctr_nb bpext perfctr_l2 hw_pstate proc_feedback vmmcall bmi1 xsaveopt arat npt lbrv svm_lock nrip_save tsc_scale flushbyasid decodeassists pausefilter pfthreshold
    Fri 02 Sep 2016 01:42:08 AM CEST | | OS: Linux: 4.4.0-36-generic
    Fri 02 Sep 2016 01:42:08 AM CEST | | Memory: 13.65 GB physical, 15.45 GB virtual
    Fri 02 Sep 2016 01:42:08 AM CEST | | Disk: 213.90 GB total, 164.93 GB free
    Fri 02 Sep 2016 01:42:08 AM CEST | | Local time is UTC +2 hours
    Fri 02 Sep 2016 01:42:08 AM CEST | | VirtualBox version: 5.0.24_Ubuntur108355
    Last edited by Dirk Broer; 09-02-2016 at 12:16 PM.

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    I am hoping this will land sooner rather than later (but not holding my breath)
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