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    New series of GPU cards

    nVidia just seem to have released a GT1030 specially against the Radeon RX 550. What is so special about the Radeon RX 500 series?
    Let's start with the RX 550
    Model/Type GPU Fab
    (nm)
    Shaders TMU ROP GFLOP SP GFLOP DP GFLOP HP TBP Gflop(SP)
    /Watt
    Gflop(DP)
    /Watt
    Gflop(HP)
    /Watt
    Radeon RX 500 Series 1/16
    of SP
    Radeon RX 540 (OEM)
    Cape Verde PRX
    28
    512
    32
    16
    1248
    78.0
    ?
    65
    19.20
    1.20
    ?
    Radeon RX 550
    Polaris 12
    14
    512
    32
    16
    1211
    75.7
    1211
    50
    24.22
    1.51
    24.22
    Radeon RX 560
    Polaris 11
    14
    1024
    64
    16
    2406
    150.4
    2406
    80
    30.01
    1.88
    30.01
    Radeon RX 570
    Polaris 20
    14
    2048
    128
    32
    4784
    300.0
    4784
    150
    31.89
    2.00
    31.89
    Radeon RX 580
    Polaris 20
    14
    2304
    144
    32
    5792
    362.0
    5792
    185
    31.31
    2.13
    31.31
    Radeon Pro Duo Polaris
    2x Polaris 20
    14
    4608
    288
    64
    11456
    716.0
    11456
    250
    45.82
    2.86
    45.82
    The RX 550 is a very capable card in view of its power needs, a mere 50 Watt. Those willing to spend a little more on purchase and power bills can choose for the even more capable RX 560
    The TBP (Typical Board Power) of the RX 560 is actually 60-80 Watt, so the GFLOPS/Watt may be even better yet.

    What does nVidia offer?
    Model/Type GPU Fab
    (nm)
    Shaders TMU ROP GFLOP SP GFLOP DP GFLOP HP TBP Gflop(SP)
    /Watt
    Gflop(DP)
    /Watt
    Gflop(HP)
    /Watt
    Geforce 10 Series 1/32
    of SP
    GeForce GT 1030
    GP108-300-A1
    16
    384
    24
    8
    952
    30
    15
    30
    31.73
    1.00
    0.50
    GeForce GTX 1050
    GP107-300-A1
    14
    640
    40
    32
    1733
    54
    27
    75
    23.11
    0.72
    0.36
    GeForce GTX 1050 Ti
    GP107-400-A1
    14
    768
    48
    32
    1981
    62
    31
    75
    26.41
    0.83
    0.41
    GeForce GTX 1060 3GB
    GP106-300-A1
    16
    1152
    72
    48
    3470
    108
    54
    120
    28.92
    0.90
    0.45
    GeForce GTX 1060 6GB
    GP106-400/410-A1
    16
    1280
    80
    48
    3855
    120
    60
    120
    32.13
    1.00
    0.50
    GeForce GTX 1070
    GP104-200-A1
    16
    1920
    120
    64
    5783
    181
    90
    150
    38.56
    1.21
    0.60
    GeForce GTX 1080
    GP104-400/410-A1
    16
    2560
    160
    64
    8228
    257
    128
    180
    45.71
    1.43
    0.71
    GeForce GTX 1080 Ti
    GP102-350-K1-A1
    16
    3584
    224
    88
    10609
    332
    166
    250
    42.44
    1.33
    0.66
    nVidia Titan X
    GP102-400-A1
    16
    3584
    224
    96
    10157
    317
    159
    250
    40.63
    1.27
    0.64
    nVidia Titan Xp
    GP102-450-A1
    16
    3840
    240
    96
    12150*
    380*
    190*
    250
    48.61
    1.52
    0.76
    *=Normal values unknown yet. For the Titan Xp I only know of the 'Turbo boost' values, at the moment.

    Considering the fact that most projects only ask for Single precision, the GT 1030 offers real value. But when we take double precision performance (e.g. MilkyWay) into account, nVidia is fighting a lost battle as they have sacrificed that feature to boost the sales of their professional (Quadro/Tesla) cards. I do not know yet of the effects of the half-precision performance, but nVidia seems to have made the wrong choice there too by offering Half-precision at 1/64th of the Single precision while AMD offers it at the same GFLOPS as the single precision. There ought to be projects where AMD cards smash the nVidia cards, performance-wise.
    Last edited by Dirk Broer; 05-02-2017 at 04:39 PM.

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    Nice table there Dirk... and indeed it seems in raw computation capacity and computation per watt, which is what matters most in distributed computing, we have the winners in this tier!

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    Good work Dirk, I'd love to see all the cards GTX1060, GTX1070 through to GTX1080 Ti too

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    Quote Originally Posted by vaughan View Post
    Good work Dirk, I'd love to see all the cards GTX1060, GTX1070 through to GTX1080 Ti too
    Blistering performance equals blistering power bills too, but I'll take care of it

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    nVidia just seem to have released a GTX 1650/1660 specially against the Radeon Vega and upcoming Navi. What is so special about the Radeon Vega series? Will Navi be even better?
    But let's first start with the RX 500 series
    Model/Type GPU Fab
    (nm)
    Shaders TMUs ROPs Compute
    Units
    GFLOP SP GFLOP DP GFLOP HP TBP Gflop(SP)
    /Watt
    Gflop(DP)
    /Watt
    Gflop(HP)
    /Watt
    Radeon RX 500 Series 1/16
    of SP
    Radeon RX 540
    Lexa
    14
    512
    32
    16
    8
    1151
    71.9
    1151
    50
    23.02
    1.44
    23.02
    Radeon RX 550
    Lexa
    14
    512
    32
    16
    8
    1247
    77.95
    1247
    50
    24.94
    1.56
    24.94
    Radeon RX 560
    Baffin
    14
    1024
    64
    16
    16
    2611
    163.2
    2611
    75
    34.81
    2.18
    34.81
    Radeon RX 570
    Polaris 20XL
    14
    2048
    128
    32
    32
    5095
    318.5
    5095
    120
    42.46
    2.65
    42.46
    Radeon RX 580
    Polaris 20XTX
    14
    2304
    144
    32
    36
    6175
    385.9
    6175
    185
    33.38
    2.09
    33.38
    Radeon RX 590
    Polaris 30XT
    12
    2304
    144
    32
    36
    7119
    445.0
    7119
    175
    40.68
    2.54
    40.68
    Radeon Pro Duo Polaris
    Ellesmere Gemini G
    14
    2x 2304
    2x 144
    2x 32
    2x 36
    11456
    716.0
    11456
    250
    45.82
    2.86
    45.82
    Radeon Vega Series 1/16
    of SP
    Radeon Vega 56
    1x Vega 10XL
    14
    3584
    224
    64
    56
    10570
    660.4
    21140
    210
    50.33
    3.14
    100.66
    Radeon Vega 64
    1x Vega 64
    14
    4096
    256
    64
    64
    12580
    786.4
    25160
    295
    42.64
    2.67
    85.29
    Radeon VII Series 1/4
    of SP
    Radeon VII
    1x Vega 20XT
    7
    3840
    240
    64
    60
    13440
    3360
    26880
    295
    45.56
    11.39
    91.12
    Radeon 5000 Series 1/16
    of SP
    Radeon RX 5500
    1x Navi 14 XT
    7
    1408
    88
    32
    22
    5196
    324.7
    10392
    150
    34.64
    2.16
    69.28
    Radeon RX 5500 XT
    1x Navi 14 XTX
    7
    1408
    88
    32
    22
    5196
    324.7
    10392
    130
    39.97
    2.50
    79.94
    Radeon RX 5600
    1x Navi 10 XE
    7
    2048
    128
    64
    32
    6390
    399.4
    12780
    150
    42.60
    2.66
    85.20
    Radeon RX 5600 XT
    1x Navi 10 XLE
    7
    2304
    144
    64
    36
    8066
    504.0
    16131
    160
    50.41
    3.15
    100.81
    Radeon RX 5700
    1x Navi 10XL
    7
    2304
    144
    64
    36
    7949
    496.8
    15900
    180
    44.16
    2.76
    88.33
    Radeon RX 5700XT
    1x Navi 10XT
    7
    2560
    160
    64
    40
    9754
    609.6
    19510
    225
    43.35
    2.70
    86.71
    Radeon RX 5700XT 50th Anniversary
    1x Navi 10XTX
    7
    2560
    160
    64
    40
    10138
    633.6
    20276
    235
    43.14
    2.69
    86.28

    The RX 550 is a very capable card in view of its power needs, a mere 50 Watt. Those willing to spend a little more on purchase and power bills can choose for the even more capable RX 560
    The TBP (Typical Board Power) of the RX 560 is actually 60-80 Watt, so the GFLOPS/Watt may be even better yet. The Radeon VII seems tailor-made for MilkyWay@Home.

    What does nVidia offer?
    Model/Type GPU Fab
    (nm)
    Shaders TMUs ROPs Compute
    Units
    GFLOP SP GFLOP DP GFLOP HP TBP Gflop(SP)
    /Watt
    Gflop(DP)
    /Watt
    Gflop(HP)
    /Watt
    Geforce 10 Series Pascal 1/32
    of SP
    GeForce GT 1030
    GP108-300-A1
    14
    384
    24
    16
    3
    1127
    35.23
    17.62
    30
    37.57
    1.17
    0.59
    GeForce GTX 1050
    GP107-300-A1
    14
    640
    40
    32
    5
    1862
    58.2
    29.1
    75
    24.83
    0.78
    0.39
    GeForce GTX 1050 Ti
    GP107-400-A1
    14
    768
    48
    32
    6
    2138
    66.82
    33.41
    75
    28.51
    0.89
    0.45
    GeForce GTX 1060 3GB
    GP106-300-A1
    16
    1152
    72
    48
    9
    3935
    123
    61.5
    120
    32.79
    1.03
    0.51
    GeForce GTX 1060 6GB
    GP106-400/410-A1
    16
    1280
    80
    48
    10
    4375
    136.7
    68.35
    120
    36.46
    1.14
    0.57
    GeForce GTX 1070
    GP104-200-A1
    16
    1920
    120
    64
    15
    6463
    202.0
    101.0
    150
    43.09
    1.35
    0.67
    GeForce GTX 1070 Ti
    GP104-300-A1
    16
    2432
    152
    64
    19
    8186
    255.8
    127.9
    180
    45.48
    1.42
    0.71
    GeForce GTX 1080
    GP104-400/410-A1
    16
    2560
    160
    64
    20
    8873
    277.3
    138.6
    180
    49.29
    1.54
    0.77
    GeForce GTX 1080 Ti
    GP102-350-K1-A1
    16
    3584
    224
    88
    28
    11340
    354.4
    177.2
    250
    45.36
    1.42
    0.71
    nVidia Titan X
    GP102-400-A1
    16
    3584
    224
    96
    28
    10970
    342.9
    171.5
    250
    43.88
    1.37
    0.69
    nVidia Titan Xp
    GP102-450-A1
    16
    3840
    240
    96
    30
    12150
    379.7
    189.8
    250
    48.60
    1.52
    0.76
    Geforce 20 Series Turing 1/32
    of SP
    GeForce RTX 2060
    TU106-200A-KA-A1
    12
    1920
    120
    48
    30
    6451
    201.6
    12902
    160
    40.32
    1.26
    80.64
    GeForce RTX 2060 Super
    TU106-410-A1
    12
    2176
    136
    64
    34
    7181
    224.4
    14362
    160
    44.88
    1.40
    89.76
    GeForce RTX 2070
    TU106-400-A1
    12
    2304
    144
    64
    36
    7465
    233.3
    14930
    175
    42.66
    1.33
    85.31
    GeForce RTX 2070 Super
    TU104-410-A1
    12
    2560
    160
    64
    40
    9062
    283.2
    18124
    215
    42.15
    1.32
    84.30
    GeForce RTX 2080
    TU104-400-A1
    12
    2944
    184
    64
    46
    10070
    314.6
    20140
    215
    46.84
    1.46
    93.67
    GeForce RTX 2080 Super
    TU104-450-A1
    12
    3072
    192
    64
    48
    11150
    348.5
    22300
    215
    51.86
    1.62
    103.72
    GeForce RTX 2080 Ti
    TU102-300-K1-A1
    12
    4352
    272
    88
    68
    13450
    420.2
    26900
    250
    53.8
    1.68
    107.6
    nVidia Titan RTX
    TU102-400-A1
    12
    4608
    288
    96
    72
    16310
    509.8
    32620
    280
    58.25
    1.82
    116.5
    Geforce 16 Series Turing 1/32
    of SP
    GeForce GTX 1650
    TU117-300-A1
    12
    896
    56
    32
    14
    2984
    93.2
    5967
    75
    39.79
    1.24
    79.56
    GeForce GTX 1650 Ti
    TU117-400-A1
    12
    1024
    64
    32
    16
    3533
    110.4
    7066
    75
    47.11
    1.47
    94.21
    GeForce GTX 1650 Super
    TU116-250-KA-A1
    12
    1280
    80
    32
    20
    4416
    138.0
    8832
    100
    44.16
    1.38
    88.32
    GeForce GTX 1660
    TU116-300-A1
    12
    1408
    88
    48
    22
    5027
    157.1
    10054
    120
    41.89
    1.31
    83.78
    GeForce GTX 1660 Super
    TU116-300-A1
    12
    1408
    88
    48
    22
    5027
    157.1
    10054
    125
    40.22
    1.26
    80.43
    GeForce GTX 1660 Ti
    TU116-400-A1
    12
    1536
    96
    48
    24
    5437
    169.9
    10874
    120
    45.31
    1.42
    90.62
    Volta 1/2
    of SP
    nVidia Titan V
    GV100-400-A1
    12
    5120
    320
    96
    80
    14900
    7450
    29800
    250
    59.6
    29.8
    119.2
    nVidia Titan V CEO edition
    GV100
    12
    5120
    320
    128
    80
    14900
    7450
    29800
    250
    59.6
    29.8
    119.2
    Considering the fact that most projects only ask for Single Precision, the GT 1030 offers real value. But when we take half or double precision performance (e.g. MilkyWay) into account, nVidia is fighting a lost battle as they have sacrificed those features to boost the sales of their professional (Quadro/Tesla) or semi-professional (Titan V) cards. I do not know yet of the effects of the half-precision performance, but nVidia seemed to have made the wrong choice in the GeForce 10-series by offering Half-Precision at 1/64th of the Single Precision while AMD offers it at the same or later even at double the GFLOPS as compared to the Single Precision. There ought to be projects where the AMD cards smash the nVidia GeForce 10-series cards, performance-wise. nVidia hasn't made that mistake with the GeForce 20- and GeForce 16-series though. The GeForce 16xx 'Super' models feature GDDR6 RAM (like the GeForce 20 series), with increased bandwidth. The old Titan V's can still be used as a Radeon VII killer and offer an even better DP performance.
    Last edited by Dirk Broer; 03-12-2020 at 10:17 PM.

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    My eVGA GTX1660 ti runs really well, considering it is running 24/7.

    From what I read somewhere, I think it was at Serve The Home the AMD vega cards pump out too much heat.

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    Quote Originally Posted by vaughan View Post
    My eVGA GTX1660 ti runs really well, considering it is running 24/7.

    From what I read somewhere, I think it was at Serve The Home the AMD vega cards pump out too much heat.
    One can only hope that the NAVI cards, produced at 7nm, will solve that problem

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    Thank you Dirk, this mesmerizing chart has gone and caused me to miss an appt. in my busy schedule. Well at least I am going to follow in Vaughan's footsteps with my next GPU choice! Thank you Vaughan and Dirk!





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    here's a "review thread" for the 1650. sadly, there's no TechReport review. i loooove their frametimes/frames spent past x milliseconds. GamersNexus has a few frametime graphs, tho

    https://www.reddit.com/r/hardware/co...launch_thread/

    the RX570 slaps it down nicely, tho. (tho i might suggest a used Fury for ~$110-130 on eBay if you've got the power)

    on the other hand, looks like Navi might be GCN. again. i'll reserve judgement for after reviews, but at least this tempers what i'm going to expect from it
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    I have updated the table for even newer GPU's (and adjusted the values to those given at https://www.techpowerup.com/ ) Some big changes!

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