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    Quote Originally Posted by AMDave View Post
    I saw a couple of prices on the old ones that really need to be refreshed as they are a bit out of whack compared to the more recent offerings.
    Although I guess they don't need to clear that stock if the take-up of newer versions is high enough.
    Generally, I suppose, prices are higher for an older version as the support grows older so maybe it was deliberate (Rhetorical ?).
    I am surprised that you think recent prices in Euro's are out of whack with actual offerings. Are you comparing the Euro's with Australian Dollars?
    Present exchange rate is one euro equals 1.60 AU$Knipsel.jpg
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    The Asrock Deskmini A300

    With everybody at home due to the Corona virus it is time to refresh this subject. With 2020Q2 before us, what are the present offerings?

    Asrock, as ever the king of the small form factor, has the most offerings. The smallest of them come in a case, complete with its own PSU: the Asrock Deskmini A300.

    You only have to add an APU (as the Deskmini has no room for a GPU), one or two SODIMMs, a SSD and/or HDD and optionally a M.2 WiFi module. It will take Bristol Ridge (Excavator AM4 A6/A8/A10/A12), Raven Ridge (Athlon 200GE, 220GE, 240GE and Ryzen 3 2200G/GE and Ryzen 5 2400G/GE) or Picasso APUs (Athlon 3000, Ryzen 3 3200G/GE and Ryzen 5 3400G/GE) up to 65 Watt tdp. There even seems to be a BIOS setting that lets you choose the tdp, but users report that it doesn't actually do something. The case comes with its own cooler, but that seems to be even smaller than the AMD stock cooler for 35 Watt tdp APUs -and standard, the CPU cooler is the only cooler in the system.

    To show you how small it all is, a small low-height Noctua mounted on the Deskmini A300 as hown on https://smallformfactor.net/reviews/...a300-finally/:

    I'd say: mount a 140mm Noctua at the side, and forget about the closing lid -or maybe even better forget about this SFF casing for 24/7/365 crunching. Nice for office use though.
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    One step upwards from the SFF boards are the iTX boards, Asrock again being the company with the most offerings -not just AMD-wise.

    For Socket AM4 we now get
    Model SATA
    600
    M.2
    S600/
    Pcie3.0x4
    USB 3.1
    Gen2
    USB 3.1
    Gen1
    USB 2.0 NIC WiFi Bluetooth Video out Sound Power
    design
    phases
    Asrock X570 Phantom
    Gaming-ITX/TB3
    4x
    1x PCIe 4
    USB 3.2 Gen2 Type-A
    1 Front, 2 Rear
    1x Type-C Tunderbolt3
    USB 3.2 Gen1
    2 Front,
    2 Rear
    2 Front
    Intel
    I211AT
    Intel® 802.11ax
    2400 Mbit/s
    5.0
    1x HDMI,
    1x DisplayPort
    Realtek
    ALC1220
    4 CPU VCC (x2)
    +2 SoC VCC
    ASRock Fatal1ty X470
    Gaming-ITX/ac
    4x
    1x
    Rear,
    1x Type-A
    1x Type-C
    2 Front,
    2 Rear
    2 Front,
    2 Rear
    Intel
    I211AT
    Intel®2T2R
    Dual Band
    1733 Mbit/s
    5.0
    2x HDMI
    Realtek
    ALC1220
    3 CPU VCC (x2)
    +2 SoC VCC
    Asrock Fatal1ty B450
    Gaming-ITX/ac
    4x
    1x
    Rear,
    1x Type-A
    1x Type-C
    2 Front,
    2 Rear
    2 Front,
    2 Rear
    Intel
    I211AT
    Intel Dual Band
    Wireless-AC 3168
    433 Mbit/s
    4.2
    2x HDMI
    Realtek
    ALC1220
    3 CPU VCC (x2)
    +2 SoC VCC
    ASRock Fatal1ty X370
    Gaming-ITX/ac
    4x
    1x
    -
    2 Front,
    3 Rear
    1x Type-C
    2 Front,
    2 Rear
    Intel
    I211AT
    Intel Dual Band
    Wireless-AC 7265
    867 Mbit/s
    4.2
    2x HDMI
    Realtek
    ALC1220
    3 CPU VCC (x2)
    +2 SoC VCC
    ASRock Fatal1ty B350
    Gaming-ITX/ac
    4x
    1x
    -
    2 Front,
    3 Rear
    1x Type-C
    2 Front,
    2 Rear
    Intel
    I211AT
    Intel Dual Band
    Wireless-AC 3168
    433 Mbit/s
    4.2
    2x HDMI
    Realtek
    ALC1220
    3 CPU VCC (x2)
    +2 SoC VCC
    ASRock A320M-ITX
    4x
    1x
    -
    2 Front,
    3 Rear
    1x Type-C
    2 Front,
    2 Rear
    Intel
    I211AT
    -
    -
    2x HDMI
    Realtek
    ALC1220
    3 CPU VCC (x2)
    +2 SoC VCC
    ASRock A320TM-ITX
    1x
    1x
    -
    4 Rear
    4 Front
    Realtek
    RTL8111GR
    / RTL8111H
    -
    -
    2x HDMI
    Realtek
    ALC233
    3 CPU VCC (x2)
    +2 SoC VCC
    The ASRock A320TM-ITX is a Thin-iTX board, and has place for two SODIMMS up to a total of 64GB (non-ECC) RAM. Another nicety is that you can mount the common Intel socket 115x coolers on it. Those two features it shares with the Asrock X570 Phantom Gaming-ITX/TB3, by the way. If you want a small case, you'b better buy a ASRock A320TM-ITX than the Deskmini, as it offers much more possibilities in ports, cooling, GPU and CPU. If and when you are a hard-core LAN party gamer, the X570 Phantom Gaming-ITX/TB3 might just be for you at a mere 249 Euro -compare that to the other X570 iTX offerings.
    Last edited by Dirk Broer; 04-03-2020 at 03:12 PM.

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    ASUS
    Model SATA
    600
    M.2
    S600/
    Pcie3.0x4
    USB 3.1
    Gen2
    USB 3.1
    Gen1
    USB 2.0 NIC WiFi Bluetooth Video out Sound Power
    design
    phases
    Asus ROG Strix
    X570-I Gaming
    4x
    2x
    (1x M.2 PCIe4.0 x4)
    3x Type-A
    1x Type-C
    2 Front,
    4 Rear
    2 Front
    Intel
    I211AT
    Dual Band
    Wi-Fi 6 AX200
    2400Mbit/s
    5.0
    HDMI
    DisplayPort
    ROG SupremeFX
    S1220A
    8 CPU VCC +
    2 SoC VCC
    Asus RoG Strix
    X470-I Gaming
    4x
    2x
    (1x M.2 PCIe3.0x4)
    2x Type-A
    2 Front,
    2 Rear
    2 Front
    Intel
    I211AT
    Intel Dual Band
    Wireless-AC
    867 Mbit/s
    4.2
    HDMI
    ROG SupremeFX
    S1220A
    6 CPU VCC +
    1 SoC VCC
    Asus RoG Strix
    B450-I Gaming
    4x
    2x
    (1x M.2 PCIe3.0x4)
    2x Type-A
    2 Front,
    2 Rear
    2 Front
    Intel
    I211AT
    Intel Dual Band
    Wireless-AC
    867 Mbit/s
    4.2
    HDMI
    ROG SupremeFX
    S1220A
    6 CPU VCC +
    1 SoC VCC
    Asus RoG Strix
    B350-I Gaming
    4x
    2x
    (1x M.2 PCIe2.0x4)
    2x Type-A
    2 Front,
    2 Rear
    2 Front
    Intel
    I211AT
    Intel Dual Band
    Wireless-AC
    867 Mbit/s
    4.2
    -
    ROG SupremeFX
    S1220A
    6 CPU VCC +
    1 SoC VCC
    Asus Prime
    A320I-K/CSM
    4x
    1x M.2 PCIe2.0x4
    -
    2 Front 3.0
    4x Rear 3.1
    2 Front,
    2 Rear
    Realtek
    RTL8111H
    -
    -
    HDMI
    DisplayPort
    ALC887
    5 CPU VCC +
    1 SoC VCC
    It still seems that adding 'ROG Strix' to an ASUS product warrants an extra amount of money to be asked for it, nowadays seemingly even more so. The X470 board goes for 214 Euro's here now, while the B450 board does 168 Euro's. ASUS dropped their X370 model, but the new X570 model now goes for a whopping 285 Euro. At the other side of the price spectrum they lowered the price for the B350 model to 127 Euro and brought out an A320 Prime model for 98 Euros. A more balanced portfolio. And if you really want to blow your money away on a small form factor board, there's the mini-DTX ASUS ROG Crosshair VIII Impact, that changes hands for some 377 Euros...for those iTX cases that leave us that little bit of extra space (8 × 6.7 inch / 203 × 170 mm), an iTX board with room for one extra PCIe slot in short.
    Last edited by Dirk Broer; 04-07-2020 at 01:35 AM.

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    Biostar
    Model SATA
    600
    M.2
    S600/
    Pcie3.0x4
    USB 3.1
    Gen2
    USB 3.1
    Gen1
    USB 2.0 NIC WiFi Bluetooth Video out Sound Power
    design
    phases
    Biostar Racing
    X470GTN
    4x
    1x
    1x Type-A
    1x Type-C
    2 Front,
    4 Rear
    2 Front
    Realtek
    RTL8118AS
    -
    -
    DVI-D,
    HDMI
    Realtek
    ALC892
    4 CPU VCC +
    3 SoC VCC
    Biostar
    X470NH
    4x
    1x
    -
    2 Front,
    4 Rear
    2 Front,
    2 Rear
    Realtek
    RTL8111H
    -
    -
    HDMI,
    VGA
    Realtek
    ALC887
    4 CPU VCC +
    3 SoC VCC
    Biostar Racing
    X370GTN
    4x
    1x
    1x Type-A
    1x Type-C
    2 Front,
    4 Rear
    2 Front
    Realtek
    RTL8118AS
    -
    -
    DVI-D,
    HDMI
    Realtek
    ALC892
    4 CPU VCC +
    3 SoC VCC
    Biostar Racing
    B350GTN
    4x
    1x
    1x Type-A
    1x Type-C
    2 Front,
    4 Rear
    2 Front
    Realtek
    RTL8118AS
    -
    -
    DVI-D,
    HDMI
    Realtek
    ALC892
    4 CPU VCC +
    3 SoC VCC
    A10N-9830E
    2x
    1x
    -
    2 Front,
    2 Rear
    2 Front,
    2 Rear
    Realtek
    RTL8111H
    -
    -
    HDMI
    VGA
    ALC887
    3 CPU VCC +
    1 SoC VCC
    A10N-9630E
    2x
    1x
    -
    2 Front,
    2 Rear
    2 Front,
    2 Rear
    Realtek
    RTL8111H
    -
    -
    HDMI
    VGA
    ALC887
    3 CPU VCC +
    1 SoC VCC
    A10N-8800E
    2x
    1x
    -
    2 Front,
    2 Rear
    2 Front,
    2 Rear
    Realtek
    RTL8111H
    -
    -
    HDMI
    VGA
    ALC887
    3 CPU VCC +
    1 SoC VCC
    Biostar is by far the most surprising company in this market niece. Not only did they bring out new models, they brought models that have no equivalent with the other companies. They seem to be the only ones with the old Socket AM1 user-base in their minds and cater boards that may be appreciated there. And though all three previous socketed models still feature on the Biostar website, they have all fallen off the price lists here. From the four 'new' boards three have their CPU onboard, and that CPU is a Bristol Ridge/Excavator APU, a step-up from the AM1 Kabini APU with its R3/HD 8400 graphics. The other is a more basic X470 board, at 92 Euros.
    The A10N-8800E (AMD FX-8800P Quad core, 2.1GHz up to 3.4GHz) is an ideal board for those who were early adapters of DDR4, as it accepts no faster than 2133 MHz [-those early sticks that you now have no use for]. Its tdp of a mere 15 Watt makes it an ideal AM1 replacement, and it sports Radeon R7 graphics, all this at a mere 90 Euro's -that's board plus APU.
    The A10N-9630E (AMD A10-9630P Quad core, 2.6GHz up to 3.3GHz) will accept up to 2400 MHz DDR4. It has Radeon R5 graphics and a tdp of 35 Watt and is, IMHO, the weakest offering here, at an as yet unknown price -but I bet it will be low.
    The A10N-9830E (AMD FX-9830P Quad core, 3.0GHz up to 3.7GHz) will also accept up to 2400 MHz DDR4. It sports Radeon R7 graphics though and also has a tdp of 35 Watt. It is the better of the two 35 Watt offerings in features, also at an as yet unknown price.
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    All three are nice charts Dirk, thank you for your effort. Awesome job !





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    Quote Originally Posted by Nflight View Post
    All three are nice charts Dirk, thank you for your effort. Awesome job !
    Still have Gigabyte and MSI to go -though the latter hasn't brought out new iTX boards.

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    Gigabyte
    Model SATA
    600
    M.2
    S600/
    Pcie3.0x4
    USB 3.1
    Gen2
    USB 3.1
    Gen1
    USB 2.0 NIC WiFi Bluetooth Video out Sound Power
    design
    phases
    Aorus X570
    I PRO WIFI
    4x
    2x PCIe4.0x4
    (1x at backside)
    1x Type-A,
    1x Type-C
    2 Front,
    4 Rear
    2 Front
    Intel®GbE LAN
    Intel® 2T2R
    Wi-Fi 802.11a/b/g/n/ac/ax
    2400 Mbit/s
    5.0
    Display Port,
    2x HDMI
    Realtek
    ALC1220
    6 CPU VCC +
    2 SoC VCC
    Gigabyte Aorus
    B450 I Pro WiFi
    4x
    1x
    2x Type-A
    2 Front,
    4 Rear
    2 Front
    Intel®GbE LAN
    Intel® 2x2 Wave2
    Wi-Fi 802.11a/b/g/n/ac
    1733 Mbit/s
    5.0
    Display Port,
    2x HDMI
    Realtek
    ALC1220
    4 CPU VCC +
    2 SoC VCC
    Gigabyte AB350N
    Gaming WiFi
    4x
    1x
    2x Type-A
    2 Front,
    4 Rear
    2 Front,
    2 Rear
    Realtek
    Intel Dual Band
    Wireless-AC 3165
    433 Mbit/s
    4.2
    Display Port,
    HDMI
    Realtek
    ALC1220
    4 CPU VCC +
    2 SoC VCC
    The Aorus B450 I Pro WiFi was a total redesign by Gigabyte with a far bigger CPU VRM heatsink and a complete relocation of components as compared to their earlier GA-AB350N-Gaming WIFI.
    With the Aorus X570 I PRO WIFI they needn't go that far and all this comes at a price of 242 Euro's, which is actually the cheapest X570 iTX mobo around here.
    Prices have risen for B450 board here meanwhile (now 129 Euro's), and the earlier B350 board has fallen from the charts.

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    MSI

    Bit of a surprise here:
    Model SATA
    600
    M.2
    S600/
    Pcie3.0x4
    USB 3.1
    Gen2
    USB 3.1
    Gen1
    USB 2.0 NIC WiFi Bluetooth Video out Sound Power
    design
    phases
    MSI B450I
    Gaming Plus AC
    4x
    1x
    -
    2 Front,
    4 Rear
    2 Front,
    2 Rear
    Realtek
    RTL8111H
    Intel Dual Band
    Wireless-AC 3168
    433 Mbit/s
    4.2
    Display Port,
    HDMI
    Realtek
    ALC887
    6 CPU VCC +
    2 SoC VCC
    The better-looking, but by now 132 Euro's costing B450 model, that lost its heatsink on the SoC VCC VRMs and the Gen2 USB ports, as compared to the B350 model -that has disappeared from the MSI portfolio meanwhile- is now the only MSI Socket AM4 iTX board. They didn't even bring out a MSI B450I Gaming Plus AC MAX, with bigger EUFI chip -yet. Perhaps they'll surprise us with a B550 iTX board.

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    Welcome to the Matrix

    Recapitulating, we have four small form factor (SFF) motherboard formats and seven chipsets:
    Chipset/Format Mini-STX Thin Mini-iTX Mini-iTX Mini-DTX
    SOC/A300 Asrock Deskmini Biostar A10-8800E
    Biostar A10-9630E
    Biostar A10-9830E
    A320 ASRock A320TM-ITX ASRock A320M-ITX
    ASUS Prime A320I-K/CSM
    B350 ASRock Fatal1ty B350 Gaming-ITX/ac
    Asus RoG Strix B350-I Gaming
    Biostar Racing B350GTN
    Gigabyte AB350N Gaming WiFi
    MSI B350I Pro AC*
    X370 ASRock Fatal1ty X370 Gaming-ITX/ac
    Asus ROG Strix X370-I Gaming*
    Biostar Racing X370GTN*
    B450 Fatal1ty B450 Gaming-ITX/ac
    Asus RoG Strix B450-I Gaming
    Gigabyte Aorus B450 I Pro WiFi
    MSI B450I Gaming Plus AC
    X470 ASRock Fatal1ty X470 Gaming-ITX/ac
    Asus RoG Strix X470-I Gaming
    Biostar Racing X470GTN*
    Biostar X470NH
    X570 Asrock X570 Phantom Gaming-ITX/TB3
    Asus ROG Strix X570-I Gaming
    Gigabyte Aorus X570 I PRO WIFI
    Asus ROG Crosshair VIII Impact
    *=may no longer be available
    Last edited by Dirk Broer; 04-07-2020 at 03:16 PM. Reason: Turns out the 'A300 chipset' is not a chipset

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