Your Right Brucifier, I should just remember that in the end it is what has been a constant reminder to why we crunch with AMD's in the first place. Why, because they constantly out do the Intel's in performance for the mighty dollar spent. So unless AMD files bankruptcy and I have no choice I will still be waiting for my illustrious AMD Quad Cores. Thank You for the Profound display of guilty disguise of truths and lies, from AMD to Intel I know who will prevail!