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    Issues with an amd 6000+

    Hey, not sure if this is the right place to post this, or if anyone has had a similar experience // is able to identify any problems that I'm having... anyway

    I purchased an amd am2 6000+ last Thursday (Upgraded from my am2 3800+) and it was running fine for the first day or two. After a while, I was getting random BSOD's, however they only occurred while running Firefox (games ran fine, had no issues with the hellgate demo). Yesterday, while playing the hellgate demo some of the sounds where stuttering, and I was getting a slight delay when performing certain actions (the primary issues of my 3800, which was under the minimum requirements for the game). Left to go to work, and when I came back I kept getting BSOD's when I tried to boot the PC. I've had a few different messages, none of which seem to occur any more often than the others. I read on another forum that this was more than likely due to an issue with ram, so I tried swapping out the sticks but it didn't change. the BSOD's where occurring up until the vista account login page was, however it usually restarted before then. I swapped out the 6000 for the 3800 (still using the heatsink//fan from the 6000) and it booted fine. put the 6000 back in, had a quick browse through the BIOS settings and didn't see anything wrong, and future attempts at booting the PC have led to it getting stuck on the screen with the bar scrolling across... I've left it for around 10-15 minutes so far and it hasn't changed. Swapped the CPU's back over, and I've now found myself posting this message on various sites to see if others may be able to help me >.>

    If it helps at all, here are the specs of my PC:
    -320gb Seagate barracuda, 7200rpm, SATA 2
    -2x 512mb Geil ram, 800Mhz (5, 5, 5, 12)
    -2x 1gb Geil ram, 800Mhz (5, 5, 5, 12)
    -Antec TruePower Trio 550w PSU
    -Asus M2N SLI deluxe mobo
    -8800GTS (640mb) - eVGA

    Would be greatly appreciated if I could get a response to this message

    ~Faatmole

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    There are known bios issues with a few of the M2N-SLI-D and the M2N-E mobos. Looks like you could be one of the unlucky few.

    If you contact Asus, they will probably tell you to RMA it back to the point of purchase.
    If you go the RMA path make sure you don't get a 'repaired' RMA'd board like some have reported:
    http://vip.asus.com/forum/view.aspx?...Language=en-us

    The BIOS reflash may or may not work. If it doesn't, a replacement chip will cost about $5-$10 and take a couple of days to arrive.

    I don't have that board. I'm just reading from various google searches.

    NB - Try booting it with less than 4GB RAM - just a 2GB RAM pair.
    It will probably work fine (see notes at ASUSTEK website via first linky below)

    eg
    http://vip.asus.com/forum/topic.aspx...Language=en-us
    http://www.tomshardware.com/forum/19...-updating-bios
    http://www.tomshardware.com/forum/19...us-start-issue
    http://vip.asus.com/forum/topic.aspx...Language=en-us
    http://www.theinquirer.net/en/inquir...e-ddr-ii-clock
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    I'll try swapping out my current mobo for my old one (an MSI K9N Neo-F), although I had some issues with it randomly crashing (crashed a lot more often playing warcraft 3 than it did in Oblivion) and wouldn't support the 3gb of ram I currently have...

    If it can support the 6000, I guess I'll be sending my current mobo back...

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    You have done all the right things by unit-testing the RAM and CPU.
    Given some of the reports on the Flash results on boards with problems, I would not proceed in that direction.
    It really does sound like the mobo you have is defective.
    If it was mine I would be RMA'ing it immediately.
    It is a shame that you have had this experience as it really is a good capable mobo.
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    Ok, "Tomorrow" was pushed back slightly, got a bit lazy with school & work...

    Anyway, after hacking at my computer the entire afternoon, running the K9N Neo with the 6000+ (only running with 2x 512mb sticks of ram) I recieved the following message on startup:

    ******WARNING: UNKNOWN PROCESSOR REVISION******
    THE PROCESSOR(S) INSTALLED IN YOUR SYSTEM ARE OF AN UNKNOWN REVISION. PLEASE CONTACT YOUR BIOS VENDOR FOR APPROPRIATE UPDATES.
    FATAL ERROR... SYSTEM HALTED.

    Not sure if I should bother updating the BIOS on my old motherboard and trying again, or trying to update the BIOS on the M2N... Or just sending the CPU back by itself

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    The bios on your old mobo doesn't know how to handle the new CPU and therefore shuts itself down so no damage is done.

    The new CPU is most likely to be fine.

    The new mobo is most likely to be the source of the issue.
    I'd RMA the new board. (see above)
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    Which 6000+ do you have? The 125W or 89W?

    The M2N SLI Deluxe requires a newer BIOS version for the 89W processor. This page lets you choose the motherboard and see the BIOS versions necessary for each processor:
    http://support.asus.com/cpusupport/c...Language=en-us

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    Bobcat:
    I'm not sure.. It's not on the website I ordered it from (the url remains the same while on the website, so I'm unable to link it - www.auspcmarket.com.au though if you follow the links) and I can't find it on the CPU box... Any other ideas on locations where it's shown? If it's printed on the actual CPU I'd be needing some more thermal paste before it goes back into the computer to check it..

    The main thing that confuses me is that it was working flawlessly at first, and then stopped.

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    It would be nice if CPUZ gave that extra bit of information.
    However, it should give you the chip series and you should be able to look that up to find out which you have.

    Great info from BobCat13. I didn't pick that up.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Faatmole View Post
    Any other ideas on locations where it's shown? If it's printed on the actual CPU I'd be needing some more thermal paste before it goes back into the computer to check it..
    You can try using the Central Brain Identifier program available from MajorGeeks

    http://majorgeeks.com/downloads14.html

    It lists the OPN number, unlike most other CPU ID programs I have tried. I believe AMD uses the following:

    ADA6000IAA6CZ = 89W
    ADX6000IAA6CZ = 125W

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