New team member saying hello

[Area 51]

best of luck with the 1090... It seems to be a great CPU for me.... I wish I had a couple more and a budget to run them all. WOW.... 3 loops in one computer? I currently have 4 computers on one loop with an old water heater(storage tank) via a heat exchanger. It doesn't seem to require high flow rates to keep this stuff cool. I think fitting enough radiators on your case is going to be the hard part. Best of luck on the upgrades and welcome to the team.

Love the 1090; 50% more cores with no extra heat!!!! There's about 1.5 degrees extra on the Northbridge, but I can live with that. Big salute to AMD for the design of the 1090; very impressive.

Multiple loops aren't so odd. A lot of people put in two pumps (and sometimes two rads) for setups that have multiple colling surfaces to deal with, I kind of just went that little further !!!!! :-).

[Jason1478963]

Love the 1090; 50% more cores with no extra heat!!!! There's about 1.5 degrees extra on the Northbridge, but I can live with that. Big salute to AMD for the design of the 1090; very impressive.

Multiple loops aren't so odd. A lot of people put in two pumps (and sometimes two rads) for setups that have multiple colling surfaces to deal with, I kind of just went that little further !!!!! :-).

I can see the reason for the multiple loops as it can be tricky to balance the flow on 4 parallel loops. It sounds like you have the radiator aspect covered. If you find you need more and price is getting high a heater core from a car can do a very nice job as well. My father was able to find a copper heater core from a car that works well for him. I started with a koolance setup and have found their stuff to be getting to expensive for my hobby. The GPU water blocks especially as they are out dated with the next generation of cards. I would be interested in seeing some pictures of your setup when you get it done

[Area 51]

I can see the reason for the multiple loops as it can be tricky to balance the flow on 4 parallel loops. It sounds like you have the radiator aspect covered. If you find you need more and price is getting high a heater core from a car can do a very nice job as well. My father was able to find a copper heater core from a car that works well for him. I started with a koolance setup and have found their stuff to be getting to expensive for my hobby. The GPU water blocks especially as they are out dated with the next generation of cards. I would be interested in seeing some pictures of your setup when you get it done

I've seen some great pictures of car rad' cooled setups and certainly, if you cant get a pump with enough balls to push the fluid through (and keep the joints water-tight), they make good sense - providing you can also keep the noise down. I know that feeling about the water blocks all to well; whilst the rest of the cooling setup will be able to handle the next, and probably the next generation of GPUs, I can't help feeling that the water-block are the weak (and expensive link).

I think there is a solution though - its just not commercially available atm. I used to work as a miller, and I know I could easily have got a better finish (read smoother) than the contact surfaces of the water-blocks from Aqua Tuning that I use (I've seen the video of their production, and I'm not impressed). I cannot see why 'shims' can't be used. If you had shims that were manufactured to a stated thickness, to a very high tolerance (say 1 micron - which is quite easy to do today) with a very smooth surface finish, you could quite easily build a 'universal' water-block that contacted the shims, placed on critical surfaces) via thermal paste. Since the critical dimension is the thickness (the other dimensions are nowhere near as critical), these would be quite cheap to produce. Yes you would loose a degree of thermal conductivity, but that could be allowed for. This way, you would only have to swap out the shims for the relevant thickness when you upgraded.

Perhaps I shoud patent the idea........

[Area 51]

I'm in the process of finishing a new study atm, which will be a lot cooler than my current study (which sits above and behind a very hot wood burning stove!!!!!) and doesn't have a window to speak of.

Unfortunately, I have to move my rig to the new study once its finished - which is a real problem due to the weight of the setup and the fact I only have ladder access to it!!! Santa has bought me a new toy (after some gentle sterring and hinting) - which will help a great deal with my case real-estate issues and rig transport. Providing my quick release couplings turn up within the next 10 days, I will be spending a whole day re-plumbing the externals of my setup (incorporating the new toy and said QR couplings) during my extended 4 day xmas break. Once this is done, I'll be happy to supply internal and external shots and provide fedback on any of the compnents I have used.

[Nflight]

I like to read about someone so interested in heating and cooling, it encourages me to step up and say I feel proud that I am not the only one who thinks this way in the team effort. Nice Job Area 51, I am impressed. Yet, wasting that heat in Scotland in this time of year could be detrimental, double heating and double cooling in the summer just rubs me the wrong way sometimes. Imagine the computer in a room, in the house; Simply stated you vent the heat from the radiators into the house then the house cooling or heating system has to work against the heating and cooling of the weather outside. If only you can visualize a box in a box scenario. Vent the excess heat outside of the house from your CPU's is much better energy valued then having to use a secondary HVAC system to do it all over again. Cramped quarters near the stove sounds hazardous to controlling the heat. Good Luck I will continue to keep reading this marvelous work your doing.

My Knowledge base is in Sustainable Energy Engineering.

[Tamaster]

I've got a geothermal conversion going into my place next week (we start the dig on the 27th). I've got (many) friends that have recommended based upon their experience. I've already got two possible buyers for the Heat Pump system that it replaces.