No one can make fun of me anymore!!!!!!

[meckano]

Does that help?

[Lagu]

Meckano!

You are one surprisingly man. Great job. Keep it up!

According to what you are talking about: All is relatively. The motherboard can supports 1 GHz hypertransport but if the system bus only has 800 MHz and the memory 200 MHz speed the speed is not higher than 200 MHz. The CPU can handle all this but when the processor works and will read/write to the disc it will not run faster than 200 MHz if the disc supports 200 MHz. If the disc only can handle 175 MHz the read/write function will be slower. It’s the same for the memory. If the system bus has 1 GHz, the Memory 1 GHz and the disc could have 1 GHz, we should have the worlds fastest and powerful PC’s of today.
I think it not helps if a PC has 2.200 or 2.400 MHz. Today it is the system bus, the memory and the disc that is the bottleneck.
From my Users manual:

Brand Name: AMD Athlon ™ 64 Processor 3200+
Frequency: 2.244 MHz.
CPU Operating speed: 2.200 (200)
External clock: 204 MHz
Multiplier factor: x 11 (11x 204=2.244)

As we can see: The CPU seems only works at 2.200 MHz. (11x200). I don’t know why the operating speed will be 2.200 MHz. Is 44 MHz of no use? Another sake: My memory is running in only 160.5 MHz. It should be better if it runs at 200 MHz ca.

I don’t know how the actual CPU operating speed Beernknud has on his AMD. I think it is lower than the frequency or perhaps not.

Lagu :D

[Lagu]

Today DDR2 is the fastest memory.
Lagu

[Empty_5oul]

Today DDR2 is the fastest memory.
Lagu

Lagu, you are right with actual memory but in graphics cards DDR3 is available.

here is an example http://www.microdirect.co.uk/Product...534&GroupID=27

[Beerknurd]

Thanks Meckano. I have always had Intel's, so switching to AMD lingo is kinda confusing... But I'll get it eventually. All I know is that in Ubero my Intel spanks the AMD. But then again, Ubero is built for Intel. The only problem I see is that with my Intel I can run 2 instances of Ubero and get a better output. I can't run more than 1 instance on the AMD. If I run 2 instances one of them doesn't do anything while the other is crunching at full speed. I guess Hyperthreading for Intel is the reason for this...??? Am I correct??

But I guess I shouldn't complain too much. The AMD is 1000 times better than the Gateway 733 sitting on the floor unplugged. I need more space!!!!! But in 2 weeks I should be able to run all 3 with no problems....


Thanks again Meckano

[Empty_5oul]

yep hyperthreading is intels "multi-tasking" so you can do multiple things at the same time e.g. two instances.
AMD sort of has this, as mekano said and you asked why do intel and AMD numbers not match up. A 3200+ (in your case 3300+) is less Ghz than an intel but the equivilent of say a 3.2 (your other machine). More gets done per cycle in an AMD so to a normal user this appears multitasking though it actually is just doing lots of separate things in rapid sucession. Whereas Intel in my knowledge divides the CPU so you could run 2 instances of SOB or Ubero and get 50% each.
Running 2 instances on an AMD doesn't work as the first open client gets the work and due to DC until it runs out of work will keep this priority.
(That is slightly simplified)

hope this makes sense.

[Beerknurd]

Ok...

I was going to try and run folding@home but I started a WU on my P4 and it said it would finish in 1 day 8 hours and something. I started one on the AMD and it said like 8 days.... Are there diffrent size WU's??? If not then I thought that AMD ran Folding@Home better than Intel....

[meckano]

From what I remember of my reading, windows is a multi-tasking environment. Some of you may not remember the days when you could not run 2 progams at once. Now we can run a bunch in this shell call windows.

HT on the other hand, from what I understand, is having 2 virtual cpu's inside the physical cpu. If you have a hard drive split in 2, you have 1 pyshical drive and 2 virtual ones, a C and a D. One is in extended memory.

HT on AMD different to Intel? Don't know!
But read somewhere that someone created the same complete project in a different directory and ran both, which worked for him.
- Worth a try? yes. please give feed back, I'm just the curious sort, so that I can give answers to folk like that lengthy post I did earlier. :D

[meckano]

Oh, part of what I read on HT.
a 2 cpu system with HT can have 4 virtual cpu's.

[Beerknurd]

I wouldn't mind having that setup....