Compare AMD and Intel

[Lagu]

A comparison between my AMD Athlon 3200+ and Intel Dual Core 2 E 6600 as is very interesting from CPU-z.

Name: AMD Newcastle
Technology: 0,13 um
Volt: 1500w
Core speed: 2370 MHz (normal 2,200)
Buss speed: 215 MHz
Hyper Transport: 1077 MHz
Memory frequency: 169 MHz
Max bandwidth: DDR PC 3200 (200 MHz)
Manufacture: Unknown. Perhaps Wiking or Kingston
Support: MMX+, 3DNOW+, SSE, SSE2 and x86-64
Crunch a Riesel Sieve task around 47,30 on average. (Optimised Client).

Name: Intel Conroe
Technology: 0,65 nm
Volt: 1208w
Core speed: 2,395 MHz
Buss speed: 266 MHz
Front Side Bus; 1064 MHz
Memory frequency: 399 MHz
Max bandwidth: DDR2 PC2-6400 (400 MHz)
Manufacture: Corsair
Support: MMX, SSE, SSE2, SSSE3, EMT64T
Run 2 Riesel Sieve tasks at around 47,25 on average ( No optimised client) Five % increase of time should be 2.36 minutes

The AMD is yet as fast as Intel running RS and claimed more points for each WU. Despite Intel crunch one more tasks it gets 3-4 points lesser than AMD yet. But if I should run a non optimised client on the Athlon I guess it should be equal.

[Lagu]

The Athlon has a ABIt MOBO as support 400 MHc memory but I have only 200 MHz. I think if should I buy 2 512 MB DDR DIMM PC 3200 400 MHz memory it should speed up the computer. I think Corsair twin is a good memory but expansive. Kingston has twin matched memorys as is mych cheaper but got good recensations. The memorys I have now is different and cause interuptions if I try use "Turbo setting" to overclock it. What do you guy think?

[LisaD]

Corsair is better.

[spikey_richie]

I can highly recommend OCZ Gold :icon_cool:

[gatekeeper53]

I have some cheap mem that I bought from Newegg that does well to around 250 to 260. It was only $70 a gig and it's advertised to only be used on AMD products. http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.asp?Item=N82E16820161679 In my 4800+ I have 2 gig of Corsair that are a matched pair. I haven't gotten to take it as far as it will go yet. I am still waiting on a return for my cooler. Newegg shipped me the one for an Intel instead of the AMD.

[Big Whiskey]

I'm guessing your board is Socket 754, you'll be wasting your money buying matched sticks of ram, 754 boards are single channel memory bus only.

you have the right speed of ram, PC3200 is 400Mhz(2 x 200) the 200 is one direction only.

I see your memory multiplier in the bios is wrong, your ram is running at 338Mhz (2 x169),set memory clock frequency to 1:1 (or DDR 400 or PC3200 depending on or bios) some boards don't AUTO detect 400Mhz ram properly sometimes.

depending on the quality of ram they should be able to handle an overclock to 10% without problems

if it boots up, your ram speed should be 215 in CPU-Z with your 7.5% overclock or 430Mhz.:icon_razz:

if it doesn't boot up, set your FSB clock back to 200
after it is stable again you can try overclocking again

if you decide to buy new ram, one stick of PC4000(500Mhz) 1Gig will better handle your overclock.

Cheers
Big Whiskey

[Lagu]

Here is some more information about the memory on the Athlon.

Yes the Motherboard is a socket 754 Chipset: VIA KT800 PRO, Southbridge VIA VT 8237

The Athlon has 2 memorys at 512 MB each in 2 slots.

General

Type: DDR
Channels: Single
Size: 1024 Mbytes.

Timings

Frequency: 169,1 MHz
Front side bus: DRAM CPU/14
CAS Latency: 2,5 clocks
RAS to CAS Delay 3 clocks
RAS Precharge: 3 clocks
Cycle Time: 7 clocks
Bank Cycle Time: 10 clocks
Command Rate: 1T
Dram Idle Timer: 16 clocks

Memory

Slot 1
Frequency 200 MHz
CAS Latency: 2,5
RAS to CAS: 3
RAS Prescharge: 3
TRAS: 8

Slot 2

Frequency 133 MHz
CAS Latency: 2
RAS to CAS: 3
RAS Prescharge: 3
TRAS: 6

Frequency 166 MHz
CAS Latency: 2,5
RAS to CAS: 3
RAS Prescharge: 3
TRAS: 7

Frequency 200 MHz
CAS Latency: 3
RAS to CAS: 4
RAS Prescharge: 4
TRAS: 8

As you can notice slot 1 has 200 MHz and 2,5, 3, 3, 8 as multiplier.
Slot 2 has 3 different speed and 2, 3, 3, 6. and 2,5, 3, 3, 7 and 3, 4, 4, 8. Isn’t that strange? I think the memory in slot 2 should be equal to slot 1 as the memory is in my Intel

[Big Whiskey]

Here is some more information about the memory on the Athlon.

Yes the Motherboard is a socket 754 Chipset: VIA KT800 PRO, Southbridge VIA VT 8237

The Athlon has 2 memorys at 512 MB each in 2 slots.

General

Type: DDR
Channels: Single
Size: 1024 Mbytes.

Timings

Frequency: 169,1 MHz
Front side bus: DRAM CPU/14
CAS Latency: 2,5 clocks
RAS to CAS Delay 3 clocks
RAS Precharge: 3 clocks
Cycle Time: 7 clocks
Bank Cycle Time: 10 clocks
Command Rate: 1T
Dram Idle Timer: 16 clocks

Memory

Slot 1
Frequency 200 MHz
CAS Latency: 2,5
RAS to CAS: 3
RAS Prescharge: 3
TRAS: 8

Slot 2

Frequency 133 MHz
CAS Latency: 2
RAS to CAS: 3
RAS Prescharge: 3
TRAS: 6

Frequency 166 MHz
CAS Latency: 2,5
RAS to CAS: 3
RAS Prescharge: 3
TRAS: 7

Frequency 200 MHz
CAS Latency: 3
RAS to CAS: 4
RAS Prescharge: 4
TRAS: 8

As you can notice slot 1 has 200 MHz and 2,5, 3, 3, 8 as multiplier.
Slot 2 has 3 different speed and 2, 3, 3, 6. and 2,5, 3, 3, 7 and 3, 4, 4, 8. Isn’t that strange? I think the memory in slot 2 should be equal to slot 1 as the memory is in my Intel

To answer your last question first: why the different timings between sticks 1 and 2?
Different manufucture- different recipe

As to multiple speeds listed thats normal, it's to let the bios know at XXXmhz run these timings, the strange part is there is only one listed for the first slot.

Your bios is probably set for auto detecting ram
The bios found a set of timings that match between the two sticks of memory
slot#1- 2.5, 3, 3, 8 @200
slot#2- 2.5, 3, 3, 7 @166
but it had to use the lower speed

You have three options:
1) Let it run as is
2) Adjust your Bios(possiblality of lower or losing overclock)if you try this and if don't like the results you can set it back to where it was
3) Buy newer ram,a stick of 1Gig of PC3200 or PC4000 or 2 of 512(you don't have to buy packaged matched sticks, as long as they have the same timings preferably same manufacturer

If you want to change your bios
Advanced Chipset=> DRAM Configuration
change DRAM Timing Selectable from By SPD to Manual
now you can change DRAM Clock from DDR333 to DDR400

try to reboot and see what happen

you might have 1 of 2 promblems or both when you reboot
first- your overclocked FSB may over power the ram- just set it back to 200
second- it may not find the second stick of ram because the timings don't match for 200, if this happens then you will have change the timings in the bios to match the speeds slot 2 @ 200 - 3, 4, 4, 8
CAS Latency Time 3
RAS# to CAS# Delay 4
RAS# Precharge Time 4
Row Cycle Time 8

once it's stable then you can try overclocking again
Hope this helps
Big Whiskey

[Lagu]

Thanks Big Whiskey

The computer has run stable since I bought it. The only as happens is when I try to overclock it to Turbo settings and the computer shouted down. I´m satisfied how it is now. Play with the bios is not my strongest side. But perhaps I will try it lather. I was only wondering if the momory was wrong but I now know it has with the bios to do. Perhaps some upgrade of the bios will help perhaps not.
Althoug all works fine so far.:)

[NVM]

very disappointed that you ran an optimised with the AMD cpu and a non-optimised with the Intel chip. when i run Boinc Seti optimised, it is at least twice as fast as the non-optimised, (using the same computer).



basically this comparison doesn't tell me a whole lot. :icon_neutral: